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Attempting an Introspective Trip (2C-E)

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Quiglesigles

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My primary reason for using psychedelics over the past year has been to allow for self-reflection and introspection. I have used 2C-E in doses ranging from 15mg to 30mg and have tripped five times on it. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for how to create the type of trip I am looking for. I have also had a lot of trouble remembering the trips the next day. Does anyone know how to prevent this? Here are a few of the ideas I have had, so please let me know if I am on the right track:

1. Write out goals for the trip on paper and read it while tripping
2. Listen to music/Don't listen to music at all
3. Would night or day tripping be better (I have only tried night trips)
4. Talk with significant other (girlfriend of 2 years) during the trip
5. Stay indoors/go for a walk
6. Meditate for the day before dosing

I'm also wondering if high doses will provide more introspection. My last trip on 30mg was very intense but I was very confused so I didn't get much out of it. Do you guys think high or low doses are better for this.

Summary: What methods do you all use to create an introspective trip.
 
I'm also wondering if high doses will provide more introspection.
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I find lower doses superior for introspection.

My last trip on 30mg was very intense but I was very confused so I didn't get much out of it.
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Sounds like a typical experience for that dosage. Blasting your mind into a million pieces isn't a good thing if you want to be able to think about things, and remember them for more than 5 seconds.

I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for how to create the type of trip I am looking for
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I'd say don't go about trying to create it, letting it happen on its own is much more rewarding in my experience. Explore your thoughts and feelings yes, but do so by gently examining and following the ones already present rather than try to dredge something up.

Be sure to change your setting a few times during your trip, start it off by just trying to enjoy yourself (listening to music, playing around, and what have you). Then maybe go for a walk without music, if you're feeling up to it, this is good for letting your mind wander.


Would night or day tripping be better (I have only tried night trips)
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Definitely try day tripping if you haven't, if you dose low enough to be out and about semi-comfortably, you can get a lot of good outside exploration done. Also check out this thread.
 
I have also been using 75mg diphenhydramine (benadryl) with the 2C-E to prevent nausea. Could this be harming my trip at all?
 
Do you guys think that 10mg would be too low? The lowest I have ever tried was 15mg and that trip had no visuals but a decent amount of introspection.
 
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I find lower doses superior for introspection.
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This has been my experience as well. If I'm so fucked up that I can't remember what an "I" is, it's unlikely that I'm going to learn anything applicable to ordinary reality.

2C-E feels like a night time drug to me, but YMMV :P
 
So I tried 12mg last night without the DPH and it went really well. I decided to remove anything that produces light in my room and spent a lot of the trip talking with my girlfriend.

I was blown away by how 12mg produced the most visual and introspective trip I have ever had (even compared to my 30mg trip). My thought process was also very clear compared to the confusion of my previous trips. Does anyone know if this could have been caused by the DPH?
 
2CE is truly a tool, in my opinion.

I use 25-30mg for a serious trip. Most of the time these trips are about "creating a moment" for myself/my soul. It starts with a nice hot shower with some oils, then some body butter/lotion and then go in meditative mode - usually in my room which is completely white with adjustable LEDlights for color change. This doesn't last long usually, because I find myself crawling a lot, sometimes "in sync with the music and color", sometimes just completely in my head, without any attention to sensory input. I wouldn't describe these trips as "fun", but the next day I feel totally refreshed and cleansed.

1. Write out goals for the trip on paper and read it while tripping -> I did this in the beginning of my tripping days and it was helpful, but mostly it would end in me trying to write down the numerous revelations I was having. Good fun, but the mind is faster than the body, so now I just enjoy the thoughts. What needs to stick, will stick.
2. Listen to music/Don't listen to music at all -> I like Supperclub presents Lounge while 2C-E'ing
3. Would night or day tripping be better (I have only tried night trips) Day trips are definetly cool, but I wouldn't go out unsupervised on 25+mg of 2CE. Anything between 9-20mg feels like I'm stuck half in this world and half in the other world. Difficult to enjoy myself. 5-7mg is perfect for a walk in nature or a day of social activities. Or as a starter dose for another psychedelic. Wait 3hours before dosing anything else !
4. Talk with significant other (girlfriend of 2 years) during the trip -> I would enjoy this in the 5-7mg range, but not higher, especially if she is not tripping herself. I find other substances are more communicative. (2CD, 5MEOMIPT, ..)
5. Stay indoors/go for a walk ->Whatever suits you. You can prepare for a walk before you drop (shoes, headphones, sunglasses, bottle of water (!!)). If during the trips you want to go out, just grab your things and go !
6. Meditate for the day before dosing -> You can never go wrong with meditating ;)

Happy travels !
 
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