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Gibberings CXIV: The nuts are acceptable here all year round

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knockando said:
Obviously most people don't.

My point, if I had one, was more about the cult of the DJ. I've always found it a bit lopsided that it's the DJs who are the "superstars" of dance music. A lot of producers are also DJs, of course, but that aside, the hierarchy of dance music stardom is a bit odd. What I'm trying to say is that DJs are wankers ;)
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The RA one tends to be a bit better & not just a "Most Famous DJ" list. Notice no sign of Guetta or Swedish House Mafia etc. Obviously it's a public vote though so the resident DJ at some wee club out in the sticks who rips it every night & is 10x better than anyone you've ever heard of isn't going to get any votes because no cunt's heard of him.
 
knockando said:
My point, if I had one, was more about the cult of the DJ. I've always found it a bit lopsided that it's the DJs who are the "superstars" of dance music. A lot of producers are also DJs, of course, but that aside, the hierarchy of dance music stardom is a bit odd. What I'm trying to say is that DJs are wankers ;)
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You'll find no argument here, then. ;)

I can kind of appreciate the amount of skill involved in seventies / eighties turntable antics, and think it takes an ear for music to do the job successfully. Though nowhere near the amount of skill it takes to be a producer, and the nineties idea of the 'superstar DJ' was unintentionally hilarious.

Though I suppose it gave hope of groupie action to a lot of folk who were too ugly to be in a band.

parttime crackhead said:
Swedish House Mafia
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Is that a bunch of rogue Nordic slumlords or something?
 
parttime crackhead said:
Was it harder to use turntables in the 80's compared to today?
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Probably, seeing as today's decks are purpose-built to facilitate turntable acrobatics.

Whereas beforehand people made use of whatever they could get, improvised and innovated. To me, that counts for a lot.
 
SamhainGrim said:
Probably, seeing as today's decks are purpose-built to facilitate turntable acrobatics.

Whereas beforehand people made use of whatever they could get, improvised and innovated. To me, that counts for a lot.
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1200/1210s (still the standard when it comes to turntables despite being discontinued) are not "purpose-built to facilitate turntable acrobatics" they're exactly the same as they were before someone first figured out how to scratch a record. There's not really been much (if any) worthwhile advancement in turntables since direct-drive.

They were purpose built as a high-end home record player, nothing more.
 
Supposedly that's true. The world's first superstar DJ/peado.

I don't think he ever mixed two records together properly (ie DJing as you'd know it today) but he was apparently the first to hook up 2 turntables so he could play straight into track 2 with no pause.

You could take a ridiculous leap & say - If it wasn't for Jimmy Saville, there'd have been no Kool Herc so no hip hop. Therefore Jimmy Saville created 50 Cent. May he burn in hell.

=D
 
parttime crackhead said:
1200/1210s (still the standard when it comes to turntables despite being discontinued) are not "purpose-built to facilitate turntable acrobatics" they're exactly the same as they were before someone first figured out how to scratch a record. There's not really been much (if any) worthwhile advancement in turntables since direct-drive.

They were purpose built as a high-end home record player, nothing more.
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Oooh, get you! ;)

They may still be 'the standard', but even I know the market has been flooded with purpose-built decks for at least twenty years or so.

A lot of long-discontinued analogue synths are still in use and regarded as 'the standard', but only a minority of people out there performing actually use them or could afford them. Get what I mean?

missing old pills said:
Hey Sam, you up for that pint soon? Especially as the derby is upon us!
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After the trauma of meeting jancrow, I'm wary of meeting a BLer ever again. Though I'll make an exception for you, Moppers.
 
1210s / 1200s are still the decks you'll see 9 times out of 10 in any bar, club, cafe or someone's house though, basic design unchanged since 1972 or so I believe.
 
SamhainGrim said:
Oooh, get you! ;)

They may still be 'the standard', but even I know the market has been flooded with purpose-built decks for at least twenty years or so.

A lot of analogue synths are still in use and regarded as 'the standard', but only a minority of people out there performing actually use them or could afford them. Get what I mean?
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I understand what you mean & you would be 100% correct if you weren't talking about turntables. You are completely wrong with regard to turntables. The market has not been flooded with purpose-built decks at all. There may be lots of other brands marketed to DJs but they don't do anything any different or better than Technics 1210s do, they are literally the same thing.

Actually tbh, analogue synths aren't regarded as the standard. Ableton, Logic & other DAWs with software synths are regarded as the standard now.
 
parttime crackhead said:
The market has not been flooded with purpose-built decks at all. There may be lots of other brands marketed to DJs but they don't do anything any different or better than Technics 1210s do, they are literally the same thing.
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So there's not even the slightest design tweak / gimmick in any one of these turntables marketed at DJs? I very much doubt that.


I could be wrong though, and to be honest I'm not all that bothered if I am.
 
SamhainGrim said:
So there's not even the slightest design tweak? I very much doubt that.
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jancrow said:
1210s / 1200s are still the decks you'll see 9 times out of 10 in any bar, club, cafe or someone's house though, basic design unchanged since 1972 or so I believe.
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Of course in other brands there will be slight design tweaks. The market is not flooded with them though. The market is still flooded with Technics or almost exact replicas. You are definitely wrong here Sam. If you'd started talking about CDJs or something then you'd have a point.

Jancrow is correct, 9 times out of 10 if you see turntables being used by a DJ they are 1200/1210s so how can the market be flooded by purpose built DJ decks? Where have they all gone? Because DJs aren't using them.
 
Maybe its my age but I never understood the superstar DJ stuff.
Loads of kids in clubs staring at bloke on some decks like he is some kind of god.
I don't understand what's so great about being able to mix someone else's music with more music also made by someone else.
Give me a band with electric guitars playing songs that they wrote any day. That's the kind of music that still gets played decades later.
 
parttime crackhead said:
If you'd started talking about CDJs or something then you'd have a point.
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And what relevance would the human form of Mad Cow Disease have at this particular juncture?

Ah... CDJs. Sorry.

maxalfie said:
Maybe its my age but I never understood the superstar DJ stuff.
Loads of kids in clubs staring at bloke on some decks like he is some kind of god.
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Me neither, but then again each to their own.

I remember seeing the Chemical Brothers (I know they're 'producers') playing live on the telly at some festival in the late nineties. They tried the kind of 'rock' visual experience (with spotlights on the performers) and I honestly couldn't stop laughing.

Still, those days are hopefully gone now that the music industry has been turned inside out.
 
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maxalfie said:
Maybe its my age but I never understood the superstar DJ stuff.
Loads of kids in clubs staring at bloke on some decks like he is some kind of god.
I don't understand what's so great about being able to mix someone else's music with more music also made by someone else.
Give me a band with electric guitars playing songs that they wrote any day. That's the kind of music that still gets played decades later.
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Ehm, Chicago house? Detroit techno? Music made decades ago, still played out today. There's plenty of utter shite guitar music that won't be heard 6 months after it's released, never mind 20 years later - exact same with 'dance' music.

Also, who would still be playing it decades later if people weren't playing music made by someone else?

There's only 1 DJ on that RA Top 100 poll I can think of who doesn't make his own music.

SamhainGrim said:
And what relevance would the human form of Mad Cow Disease have at this particular juncture?

Ah... CDJs. Sorry.
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Haha, nice way to swerve making a cunt of that one ;)
 
I can't recall hearing any lately. Where I can put the radio on and hear songs from now and decades ago at any time of the day.
 
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