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I.M. basics?

farmaz

farmaz

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I asked on PDD & got this "You need clean product (if not; micron filter!), sterile water/bacteriostatic water, clean needle, alcohol swab. You want to prepare the drug, wipe down a generous patch of skin on top of your thigh in the middle of it, and to put the needle at least 1/2" inch into the thigh, then to slowly push it in. You'll want some sterile cotton to blot the site in case any leaks out/blood comes out."

I mean wtf is that about?
I have no idea what the hell a micron filter is or where to get 1 from for a start. I assume it is with a 2ml but I have no idea. I have shot I.V. heroin & speed before & used all types of stuff for a filter with no bad effects. I assume I.M. is far more risky that I.V?.....

I know this is a harm reduction site but can someone just tell in in straight English for once?

I have missed shots before going I.V. & it hurts & shooting into an arterie is fucking agony. Only happened once & my whole arm went pure red & my fingers went twice their size. Hitting an arterie is agony but missing & shooting into skin alone is painfull.

How you go about doing I.M. is simple English?......

It sounds way to much hassle to be arsed with tbh. I would go I.V. as I have read reports of 4MeO PCP going I.V. up to 70mg but it sounds very harsh & I think you are taking your life in your hands even though I can take alot of said chemical as my levels of tolerance are very high.
 
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Firstly, make sure that whatever you're IM'ing is the right product.
Alot of drugs simply won't work if IM'd. Such as cocaine.

Also only I.M pharm grade product & not street drugs.

Ketamine is the only street drug I've ever I.M'd cause I see it come from an 'official' sealed vial. But even that isn't 100% foolproof.

You're asking for trouble if you even think about I.M'ing street heroin.

And speed? Sounds like an unlikely ROA tbh.
 
Cornishman said:
Firstly, make sure that whatever you're IM'ing is the right product.
Alot of drugs simply won't work if IM'd. Such as cocaine.

Also only I.M pharm grade product & not street drugs.

Ketamine is the only street drug I've ever I.M'd cause I see it come from an 'official' sealed vial. But even that isn't 100% foolproof.

You're asking for trouble if you even think about I.M'ing street heroin.

And speed? Sounds like an unlikely ROA tbh.
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NO

I said heroin & speed I have done I.V.
I have NEVER done I.M. before with anything.
I am thinking of doing 4MeO PCP I.M.

sorry if my post was not clear
 
Most batches of 4-meo-pcp I've had where full of impurities, one in particular had a very strong smell and made me feel sick, I went all pale, was nauseated for days and my urine was dark and smelly. That's the last time I bought any, didn't even finish that gram, got really concerned that there was some seriously toxic by-product/untreated precursor or reagent in there.

To be honest that would be the last drug I'd want to inject
 
I have never had experience with the two compounds that you intend to Inject.

I do have plenty of experience with I.M drug use about half of it bad , Abcess , Blood Poisoning etc So my advice would be to Plug the Drugs .

I.M is just not worth the risk for the small gain if any .

If you do however still want to go I.M if you search ye shall find i'm sure . Roiders are experts in I.M :) might get angry though.

As i said think about it , I.M is not very safe way of using.
 
As far as speed goes, plugging is the ROA - the BA is well into the nineties.

Like Cornish said, IM brings on some huge risks. And the thought of IM img street 'heroin' is pretty horrifying.

I'm sure there's a thread in Other Drugs about this, most of which will apply to any substances available in Europe which are suitable for IM.

It's certainly not a route I'd ever consider taking casually, and I say that as an occasional IV user.

EDIT: Listen to Brimz.
 
The instructions you got are basically correct and would be the recommended approach. However, I totally understand that the highest ideals of HR are not always gonna be reached by all (including myself, I must admit). If it all possible then you absolutely should take all precautions and be ultrasterlile all the way. Unlike IV injection (where the worst fuckup most ever see is maybe an abcess) IM can go horribly wrong far more easily. Infection is a major issue and can - and does - tend to lead to amputated limbs and/or death. Really for really. I suspect at least one EADDer can point you in the direction of his own near-miss from somewhat sloppy IM technique...

Having said that, I must admit to not being quite as careful as I could be on many occasions. Wheel/micron filters are a bit pricey and generally not just lying about the place like filter tips tend to be (at least they are if you smoke rollies). I don't happen to have any good sites to order micron filters from to hand but I'm sure somebody else could point you in the right direction. For anyone planning to go the IM route they really should be essential (do as I say, not as I do and all that :o).

That aside, the technique is basically identical to IV injection. Prepare your substance as normal, filter, pull up into a 2ml (or 5ml or whatever) barrel and attach an IM tip, swab the area with alcohol wipes (I use my thighs - upper outside quadrant thereof) push the needle in firmly (IM needles are loooong but generally don't push down quite to the hilt just in case it snaps or summat equally horrific) then plunge the Goodies, pull needle out, swab again, sit back and enjoy the ride. Oh yes, very importantly, when you put the needle in you need to pull back the plunger to make sure you're not in a vein/artery. You want the opposite of IV - pull back air, no fluids. Injecting into a deep vein or artery cos you didn't check tends to necessitate a quick trip to the hospital if not worse.

That's the short version anyway. It's really not a recommended option in almost all circumstances due to the rather high risk of complications. When you inject into a vein it's actually quite hard to get any infection (unless you miss) but in the muscle any contaminant just sits there and festers. Street drugs should never be IM'd really. Way to much crap in 'em. Supposedly "pure" RC's should be somewhat better in theory but even if genuinely pure they ain't sterile. Realistically not many folks get sterile amps of *substance* though so whether the risk is worthwhile is kinda up to whoever's taking said risk really...

Not all drugs are suited to IM either. You mention 4-MeO-PCP and I know folks can and do IM that. Plugging would be far, far less risky for more or less identical effect. Not everyone's cuppa tea though, I realise. Would definitely recommend plugging over IM to anyone though. Losing limbs or life is not recommended and is a far, far bigger risk with IM than with any other ROA. I'd suggest avoiding the IM route if any other options are available, personally. If you do go for it then I would strongly recommend taking the sterility and micron filtering stuff very seriously.

There used to be an excellent and informative IM guide thread over in PD. Just had a lil looksee and buggered if I could see it. Should be in the PD Index somewhere if you potter about. Might've been over in OD come to think of it - have a trawl though their Directory maybe. There's some great stuff on various specifics and more general IM advice last I looked.

EDIT: Blimey. Me typee slowlee.
 
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atm23 said:
I still say you need to man up and snort that stuff:)
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Oh I do. Even pharm-grade, which doesn't sting at all.

All I get is diminished returns, though perhaps the rush is more intense with snorting, I agree.

EDIT: Big up Shambles for memberation and linkage. ;)
 
I take it all back, you seedy fucker. :D

It's people like you and I who drive the fair, faint-hearted helpless maidens from this forum, y'know? ;)
 
never seen the point in IM 'ing never done it never intend to unless i had pharm DM or 'done amps as my veins are fucked
 
Just saw how much hassle it really is & have no idea where to begin to get that stuff from anyway.

I never would have guessed I.M. was such a hassle tbh. I mean some of the things I have seen people do with I.V. are shocking & I guessed I.M. would be far more easy & risk free.

Way to much hassle tbh.
 
Basically, flesh is less efficient than blood at clearing impurities and your chance of infection is thus much higher if you go im. Micron or wheel filters should be an essential part of your equipment, especially if im is your preferred method of ingestion - if you don't know what they are, Google will fill you in. Unless you've no alternative, best if you restrict your im-ing to products specifically advertised as suitable for the practice.
 
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