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Liquid morphine, first timer

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Voltatab

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Hello all,
New to the site, I've read a few posts about my question, but am a bit of a puss and would still like to have someone assure me- sorry ahead of time, if anyone's repeating themselves!

Anyway I have been taking 10/325 norcos for a year and a Half, I'm up to 20-30 a day lately...not good I know. (6-8 at a time) Anyway If i had acquired 100mg per 5ml bottle of morphine sulfate oral solution, I was wondering what a good starting point, maybe? 50mg? I didn't really get what 100mg per 5ml meant also, am I focusing on the ml part or mg?
Would I just put it in an oral syringe and put it straight into my month...for as long as possible? Or do I mix it and drink it?
Also the butt plug thing....not exactly what I'd consider ideal, but I'm reading that it may be the best? So I'd put it on what, a cotton ball or a-tip??? No idea. Or use the syringe and drip this straight into my nose?
Ahhhh Clearly I'm clueless, but im also a bit cautious amd want to be safe, so was hoping for some advice. I have read some answers on here already, but as you see I'm very green w all this, and a direct response would make me feel much better.
Thanks for your patience guys.
 
Voltatab said:
Hello all,
New to the site, I've read a few posts about my question, but am a bit of a puss and would still like to have someone assure me- sorry ahead of time, if anyone's repeating themselves!

Anyway I have been taking 10/325 norcos for a year and a Half, I'm up to 20-30 a day lately...not good I know. (6-8 at a time) Anyway If i had acquired 100mg per 5ml bottle of morphine sulfate oral solution, I was wondering what a good starting point, maybe? 50mg? I didn't really get what 100mg per 5ml meant also, am I focusing on the ml part or mg?
Would I just put it in an oral syringe and put it straight into my month...for as long as possible? Or do I mix it and drink it?
Also the butt plug thing....not exactly what I'd consider ideal, but I'm reading that it may be the best? So I'd put it on what, a cotton ball or a-tip??? No idea. Or use the syringe and drip this straight into my nose?
Ahhhh Clearly I'm clueless, but im also a bit cautious amd want to be safe, so was hoping for some advice. I have read some answers on here already, but as you see I'm very green w all this, and a direct response would make me feel much better.
Thanks for your patience guys.
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100mg per 5 ml means every 5 ml (1 measuring teaspoon) of liquid contains 100mg of morphine, so each 1ml would contain 20mg. Does that make sense? Hopefully you have an oral syringe with fine measurements to help you dose accurately? Please let us know if you need more help with dosing accurately - this is important :).

Oral morphine seems to affect different people very differently and you can't be sure how much cross-tolerance there will be from the hydrocodone, so it's always best to start low the first time you try it (it's always best to start low any time you try a new opioid for the first time). I would start with a low dose to be on the safe side, since you don't know what the effects/side-effects are going to be like - for example it might make you really nauseous. Then you can better gauge a dosage from there. Also the dosage will be different depending on whether you take it orally, snort/"waterline" it, or plug it, since the amount of morphine that reaches your bloodstream can vary greatly between different routes of administration.

A good general rule of thumb for oral is to look up the conversion: hydrocodone to morphine is 1:1 (*note that conversions are just averages and the reality will vary), and then do half that as your starting dose (since there is always incomplete cross-tolerance), so if you normally take 60-80mg hydrocodone per dose a good starting dose for oral morphine would be 30-40mg. For rectal plugging, I would at least half that again, since it can be 1.5 times to 3.5 times as strong rectally, and would do like 15mg. You can always take more later if it's not enough, right?

As for how to take it, if you're going to take it orally, personally I honestly notice no difference between swallowing it and trying to keep it under your tongue or in your mouth as long as possible. But you can try it. You would just squirt it in your mouth, there's no need to mix it with anything (unless you are wanting to dilute it beforehand with a measured amount of water for more precise dosing or something).

For rectal administration you'd basically just use a syringe and squirt it up your butt. More details can be found here: The Big & Dandy Guide to Rectal Administration (Plugging)

You could "waterline" it (drip it into your nose), but it's unclear whether the effects are really that much better than oral, I haven't tried it myself though. Rectal seems to be most people's preferred ROA out of the the 3 you listed, since as I said it can be much stronger than oral (the exact difference varies from person to person), and some people find it to case less nausea etc. Just be careful with the dosing.
 
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Perfect, that was exactly what i was hoping to hear. Thanks for the answer I will take it from there!
 
Oh my holy god...it tastes like i put it In my butthole already first....wow that tastes bad, do I swallow this? Or let it absorb then spit?
Prob a dumb question I know
 
whatever dose of hydrocodone you take should be equal to the amount of morphine...oral morphine is equivalent mg for mg to hydrocodone...
 
Jktm said:
whatever dose of hydrocodone you take should be equal to the amount of morphine...oral morphine is equivalent mg for mg to hydrocodone...
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That is the average conversion, but as I said, everyone is so different in reality, and you can't be sure how much cross-tolerance there will be from the hydrocodone, cross tolerance is never complete, (plus there may be side effects, etc, who knows how something will affect you when you've never tried it before), so it's always best to start low the first time you try it, then you can better gauge a dosage from there. I still feel a good general rule of thumb is to look up the conversion - as you said hydrocodone to morphine is 1:1 (1mg=1mg), and then do half that as your initial dose.
 
That's based on one's own prerogative, but at most, I reduce 25% for cross-tolerance...simply because of how things have gone for me when switched to different opioids by doctor...went from 8 tramadol (~80mg morphine daily based on EQUIANALGESIC DOSES) to Butrans 10µg/hr patch (~40mg morphine daily) and went through w/ds...
 
As someone who has had access to this certain product...be careful. Seriously.

Give it sometime to set in, and for the love of god don't mix it with alcohol, especially if you're new to it. It'll be a stronger experience than you may think. Heed the advice you read above you and do some extra research of your own.

You can always take more, never less.
 
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