Chicago Heroin v Fuck Dormin

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stack31337 said:
Im assuming not full blown withdrawel right? So what symptoms, sniffels? Bowel movements? I cannot wait till nausea feeling starts because I will instantly puke from the taste of it.
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Ya I mean like I said it's really hard to say because everyone is different. Some may feel nausea first some may get watery eyes or general malaise. You really are going to have to do some experimenting to see what works best for you. For me, I get a runny nose first while others may not. There's so many things that come into play. I've only had precipitated wd once in all the years I've been doing subs and full agonists. Now I'm plenty comfortable dosing my sub the morning after I got high without even really taking time into consideration. Like HoL said, you may want to try snorting the sub but, remember that it actually has a higher bioavailability when snorted (which is not typical) so you should need less. It's also important that you know that many people aren't very impressed with subs the first day especially if they have a big habit but, it does get better as days go on.

It sounds like you're getting these subs from a doctor. It may be worth talking to them about all of this nausea that you're experiencing. It might even be the naloxone in suboxone that is causing it. The doctor might find it worth it to switch you over to Subutex which 1. doesn't contain naloxone and 2. is flavorless. There are people that have bad experiences with the naloxone. The only thing is that doctors are usually less likely to prescribe Subutex because of the supposed higher abuse potential because of the lack of naloxone. You might also want to try and treat the nausea yourself until the drug has a chance to work. Sometimes even an antacid works for me but, the doctor may be able to help you there as well. Good luck
 
laitly when i get sick, i fuckin cough and cough and since its generally in the morning and i have nothing in my stomach, i just end up like dry heaving. and that shit sucks man, i dont mind the chilols so much as the fucin dry heaves
 
for me the 1st feeling was the crawlin of the skin

a real distinct feeling that seemed like it was just underneath the skin in my arms (legs if i was lying down but not otherwise)

not even really sure how to describe it but im sure most of yall know what im talkin bout
 
Maybe Chicago used to be...it seems to go in cycles and I go back to the early 197-'s ...there was very strong French/Corsican heroin white, then around 74 that ran out and some strong brown was around for a few years...then dope was so weak...I couldn't feel it through 40mgs of meth . By 1984 I was clean and stayed that way for 12 years. (relapse big mistake). The partial reason for re-ntroducing my endorphin sites to heroin was the Internet posts about its purity. It was true for a while until about 2000 and then it was hit and miss/ The last stuff I had was not even water soluable.
 
HighonLife said:
for me the 1st feeling was the crawlin of the skin

a real distinct feeling that seemed like it was just underneath the skin in my arms (legs if i was lying down but not otherwise)

not even really sure how to describe it but im sure most of yall know what im talkin bout
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I know exactly what you're talking about. When I get sick I get that same dirty uncomfortable skin crawling. It's like the exact opposite of the warm comfortable dope feeling. And I can't get comfortable whether I'm sitting , laying it doesn't matter, the disgusting restlessness persists. Also I usually punch my legs to try to make the pain stop.
 
lbcfourthstreet said:
I know exactly what you're talking about. When I get sick I get that same dirty uncomfortable skin crawling. It's like the exact opposite of the warm comfortable dope feeling. And I can't get comfortable whether I'm sitting , laying it doesn't matter, the disgusting restlessness persists. Also I usually punch my legs to try to make the pain stop.
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Yah, I get that feeling too, also that dry parched mouth, nothing can make it go away. If you can get your hands on some soma's , 1 or 2 of those every few hours help like no tomorrow. I got two left and I cant get a refill without going in to doctor, he's been refilling with out having to see him using the walgreens refll request now he's being a dick, probably wont give me more but oh my god do they help. I'd rather wait out 12 hours awake since my last shot then go to sleep and wake up feeling like shit, cause I can pop a couple valiums as it start to get harder, keep drinking liquids etc.. I had a whole regiment of medicine to make wd symptoms barely noticeable and my girl flushed it all, i still have a couple of things, but benzos for the anxiety, claritin d for sniffles and runnny nose, soma for rls, adderol (with 0 tolerance, like not taking it for weeks, gives u energy and makes u feel really good), also helps with dhiarea if you get the runs (not sure why), oh and zofran for nausea and then once I get past that 24 hour mark id take a sub, but this time around i only have benzos and 2 muscle relaxers and claritin, ive got some ritalin but i much prefer adderol havent tried ritialin yet.

Gonna help my friend go thru this as best I can and hopefully he will stay clean, seems like only way is to get out of this city or to stay on a maintenance program, its to easily accessible and its so hard to talk yourself down. For me its also like ciggerate smoking, not just the physical addiciton, theres a habit too, we have a ritual we create and its those times that remind you of the ritual which make it hard.
 
stack31337 said:
Yah, I get that feeling too, also that dry parched mouth, nothing can make it go away. If you can get your hands on some soma's , 1 or 2 of those every few hours help like no tomorrow. I got two left and I cant get a refill without going in to doctor, he's been refilling with out having to see him using the walgreens refll request now he's being a dick, probably wont give me more but oh my god do they help. I'd rather wait out 12 hours awake since my last shot then go to sleep and wake up feeling like shit, cause I can pop a couple valiums as it start to get harder, keep drinking liquids etc.. I had a whole regiment of medicine to make wd symptoms barely noticeable and my girl flushed it all, i still have a couple of things, but benzos for the anxiety, claritin d for sniffles and runnny nose, soma for rls, adderol (with 0 tolerance, like not taking it for weeks, gives u energy and makes u feel really good), also helps with dhiarea if you get the runs (not sure why), oh and zofran for nausea and then once I get past that 24 hour mark id take a sub, but this time around i only have benzos and 2 muscle relaxers and claritin, ive got some ritalin but i much prefer adderol havent tried ritialin yet.

Gonna help my friend go thru this as best I can and hopefully he will stay clean, seems like only way is to get out of this city or to stay on a maintenance program, its to easily accessible and its so hard to talk yourself down. For me its also like ciggerate smoking, not just the physical addiciton, theres a habit too, we have a ritual we create and its those times that remind you of the ritual which make it hard.
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I'm sick of dope. I've made a few proclamations but I've had enough. It's affecting my life and I just want to live normal without fear of w/d and waiting being sick as to avoid pecipitated w/d. This morning was scary but fortunately the sub worked and I'm gonna stick with em for a while. The whole life style is wearing me out.
 
the last time I used dope I got so sick afterwards I couldn't even walk my calves killed so much I collapsed when I got out of bed
 
man im glad i dont have a habit at the moment. just reading all that brought up all the memories of waking up dopesick and having no choice but to go get some dope!
 
^^right.

sometimes ill read through this thread n it'll make me miss dope, but this last page doesnt make me miss it at all, actually makes me happy i am where i am
 
HighonLife said:
^^right.

sometimes ill read through this thread n it'll make me miss dope, but this last page doesnt make me miss it at all, actually makes me happy i am where i am
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The problems start when you stop. It's only been two days on bups but it's like coming out of a fog and all the money that's gone up my arms is spinning around my brain, I feel depressed, I hope I haven't done irreparable damage to my employment with my sketchy attendance and moods. All this stuff you forget about when you're only concerned getting your fix each day. As long as you're having fun and it's not affecting your life too bad I can't blame anyone because I know how seductive it can be but for me at this time the good times have ended. It actually ended years ago but sometimes it takes a while to be honest with yourself. I hope everyone else whether your clean or using stays safe and content with their choices.
 
chefman said:
A rollercoaster from hell
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I know you either go full on and accept your fate or just commit to ORT. But trying to do both is even worse. The highs and lows and fear of precipitated w/d is almost worse than the sick you feel waiting to convert. Its just too much, I'm too old for this haha. Only 30, but the dope game takes a lot out of your soul. Once I feel better is where it gets hard. When I feel awful and the consequences are apparent it's easy to be motivated, but once you feel better, and you get a few bucks in your pocket that's what I have to get past.
 
tbone68 said:
Me too...I took it too soon once and had precip wd for a few days but I made the mistake of that I kept taking them.
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Can you reverse the PWD with dope or would it make it worse? Ive done dope a day after taking a sub, heck even around 12-14 hours after and never got sick, didnt feel high but it took away some of the shitty feeling, or it could be mental.

Right now my friend cant hit any veins, there all pretty much misses and thats generally a sign need to stop, so have to do it any day now but his gf makes things so much more complicated. The stuff he has been getting has been really consistent for like last 3 months now this last batch it turns black and is dirty as hell, sucks up light tan but is just dirty and not being able to hit a vein making it essentially a must to double your dosage sucks, fuck.
 
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