Women in porn... What do you think?

[nooneanymore]

So I watch and enjoy most porn but I'm always conflicted about how I feel about the women in them... especially if its rough sex or it depicts aspects of people being degrading to each other... Being in porn is optional so I imagine most women who are in it choose to be...


What does everyone else think?

 

[pokepoke420]

I was thinking about this today. I actually feel bad because some of these girls are beautiful and you ask yourself, why is a girl that beautiful doing porn? Were they abused when they were younger and it is the only way they feel useful? I love porn, but at the same time I hate it. Yeah, some of these girls love what they are doing. If you watch Howard Stern some of these girls are just freaks and figure fuck it, I'm gonna fuck all these guys ANYWAY why not get paid. I don't know, I'm conflicted myself. It is sad.

 

[grumpygrouse]

I love porn. I love women. Love women in porn IF it is as real as possible... Hence my choice is always BDSM and such. It's my kink and one of the reasons it's my kink is probably the fact that pain and reactions to pain/roughness etc can't be faked (at least not fully).

The best kind of porn there is is the one led by woman and her need to push her limits. This way it becomes something other than "sleazy" stuff that is done by people who must have been abused or they wouldn't end up "wasting" their lives this way. Porn can and should be an adventure in sexuality all parties enjoy.

But still I am a bit annoyed by the mandatory introductions my favorite franchise uses where the girls tell cheerfully to the camera how much fun they had. I get it why they do it (so that no one would start talking how women were forced to do shit that seems unconventional for some) but it kinda ruins the fantasy part.

Finally - who's your favorite? My favorite porn star (and alter ego) must be Tawni Ryden. Man she is HOT!

 

[Pagey]

This is gonna sound really old-fashioned but I can't stand the way women are treated in porn. It's just so degrading. Especially considering how these really hot women are having sex with disgusting fat men 90% of the time. I'm sorry, but really?! (I've yet to watch a porn video where I actually thought the dude was attractive).

Hence why I don't watch porn.

 

[rangrz]

I don't find the degradation in porn arousing either. It's just not hot to me.Nor do I dig the archetype porn girl figure.I like thin/small/cute girls with pale skin. But that's subjective.

I like BDSM porn too, but the fake scenarios are lame.

Hmm, I like Natalie demoore and Chantra Rose the most I think.

 

[nooneanymore]

Some say that the porn that we have now is related to failures and misdirections within the feminist movement. What started out with ideas about free love and the ablitiy to control fertility, and women empowerment, etc... has become debased and one result of that is the prevalence of all this hardcore online porn that women actively participate in.


Others say that porn and sex work in general is just another form of blue collar, earning little respect, hard on the body labor like construction or working on a demanding factory line.


But like other posters have said, although I watch it, I often times remain conflicted. Sometimes it doesn't seem so bad and it looks like the people are enjoying themselves, then other times I've come across scenes (usually out takes or behind the scenes segments) where I'm watching straight up abuse.


I don't have a favorite porn star. One of things about porn is that so many women filter through there's always someone new, always a different face... I can't say that I find this to be a bad thing.

 

[grumpygrouse]

Pagey et al.

Wouldn't you agree it all comes down to specific woman - how SHE LETS others treat herself, how she treats herself and how she sees herself in porn, how and why she does what she does. What I mean is, I'm 100% sure there are women actors who enjoy what they do and who are respected on the screen and behind it.

But that there are probably maybe only 1-2% of all porn actors who will fit said criteria and most often the result is awkward at best, usually degrading and humiliating...

 

[nooneanymore]

Yeah, some of these girls love what they are doing. If you watch Howard Stern some of these girls are just freaks and figure fuck it, I'm gonna fuck all these guys ANYWAY why not get paid.

I can see how there's truth to this.

 

[Foreigner]

The straight porn I've seen mostly portrays sex between unequals, and in degrading ways. In it there are acts done to women with no male equivalent wherein there are things that men do to women that are frequently explicitly presented as a victory over her, as him besting her and putting her in her place, or him wittling down her resistance until she gives in even though she already said no, while there are very few acts in porn done by women to men with the same presentation. It's mostly misogynist.

There is also the larger view that porn is socializing young people sexually with unrealistic depictions of human interaction to the point that they come to expect these acts in the real world. Porn is a fantasy and should not be treated as anything more.

All that aside, porn sex is just not good sex. It's made to be visually appealing but it's so technically contrived most of the time that reproducing it in the real world would not be sexy.

 

[nooneanymore]

But that there are probably maybe only 1-2% of all porn actors who will fit said criteria and most often the result is awkward at best, usually degrading and humiliating...

This then makes me wonder, if this is such common sense, why is porn as big as it is??? Why do women continue to line up?

 

[llama112]

I was thinking about this today. I actually feel bad because some of these girls are beautiful and you ask yourself, why is a girl that beautiful doing porn? Were they abused when they were younger and it is the only way they feel useful?

Why do you feel this way? Why do you feel bad for these beautiful girls in porn? What is so wrong with them being in porn?
Maybe they are in porn for the money. Easy money?
Maybe they are doing it because they enjoy it.

I don't know what your job is - but is it fair for me to say "ohhh you're a nice guy, but is his job the only way he feels useful in life? what was wrong with his childhood that made him have this job?"

And just because it looks degrading - maybe she's into it. People have different fantasies. People enjoy different things. Just because you think it's "out there" doesn't mean it really is. Some of it is faked too. You have to know this. It's not ALL real.

As long as the women in porn are in it because they want to be in - they choose to be in it - then I'm HAPPY for them. It's just a job.

 

[nooneanymore]

It's mostly misogynist.

Which leads me back to my original conflict in how I should feel about women who choose to be in porn.

All that aside, porn sex is just not good sex. It's made to be visually appealing but it's so technically contrived most of the time that reproducing it in the real world would not be sexy.

Porn sex occurs in the real world... and I could see how some of it could be sexy, that's why it exists.

 

[Pagey]

This then makes me wonder that if this is such common sense, why is porn is as big as it is??? Why do women continue to line up?

They get payed a fair amount for what they do. I also suspect a fair amount of women in porn have had pasts of abuse, sexual or other.
And yes I'm sure some of them actually enjoy working in porn but I'm 200% sure that's an extremely small percentage of them.
It's globally just degrading and mysoginistic IMO.

 

[nooneanymore]

It's just a job.

I guess we all have our shitty jobs to do. I sit around and shuffle papers all day and listen to boring-ass-office-drones talk about their boring-ass shitty lives and ugly kids.


Then of course I go home, turn on the screen, and look at pretty face. For a lot of guys porn provides access to women that they otherwise would not have. That's why they have strip clubs- I mean, "gentlemen's clubs".

...gotta kill the loneliness within this alienating world somehow even if only through a temporary fantasy.

 

[grumpygrouse]

Porn is fantasy and fantasy doesn't have to "work" in real life to work as a fantasy. I love BDSM but practice very little of the stuff I find appealing on screen and in porn. The best example is rape fantasy which is most common for women and yet no one would actually enjoy getting raped in real life.

Also wanted to add that doing porn is job like any other (mostly) and just like you have this one cashier who is always enthusiastic and makes paying for produce experience that brightens your day there are porn equivalents for that. And the barista who loathes every minute she wastes on your coffee? There's a porn equivalent for that also.

 

[Foreigner]

Which leads me back to my original conflict in how I should feel about women who choose to be in porn.

They are paid workers like anyone else. Some may even feel empowered by the kind of work that they do. I think focusing on the actresses is not as relevant as focusing on the product that they are helping to produce. Those actresses could be used for material that portrays them as equals to the men fucking them, but often this is not the case.

Porn sex occurs in the real world... and I could see how some of it could be sexy, that's why it exists.

You think porn sex exists in the real world? I don't. It's just a fantasy. In the real world people have more dynamic and complete interactions leading up to, and during, their sexual encounters. Sex does not exist in a vacuum like it does in porn. People are not just sex objects.

I don't care if two people are having consentual, adult sex on equal terms, even if they equitably decide that one wants to be tied up and the other dominate them. What would bother me is if men were seeking unequal sexual encounters based on dominance and power in disregard for the experience and welfare of their partner, based on a lifetime of viewing porn. Women are complete human beings.

For the record, I think porn also degrades men. It portrays them as incapable of being nurturing, loving, and compassionate beings. It also makes it seem impossible for a man to be submissive most of the time, and that men are constantly looking to deprave, objectify, and have sex 24/7. It's just stooped up to its eyeballs in stereotypes and hypocrisy. Men are also complete human beings.

I say all this as someone who watches porn, but I am highly selective of what I watch. Most porn is, frankly, quite disgusting.

 

[opium]

hotttttttt

and would have to say sasha grey. even featured in one of eminems videos

 

[jeng1128]

This subject hit REALLY close to home. I did porn for about a year and a half. The reason whylain & simple DRUGS. I was never abused but I do feel like I was taken advantage of. What really sucks is it follows you. I did it 2005-2006, they are STILL ciming out with videos that they claim are "new" but in reality they were from 7 years ago. I cant speak for every women who has done porn I can only speak for myself. My agent gave me a false sence of security by having a "stage name." Total bs people can still find you by your real name which obviously has caused major barriers inmy relationship. I wish he wouldnt look it up but he does & every time they put out a fucking "new"(old) movie it creates a fight.
Its all an act....i hated doing it so bad but the money was just too good(feeling special bc they fly u out to cali,bri g you shopping,go to the best parties/clubs. Noone put a gun to my head but I was young & addicted to OCs which my agent knew. It makes me sick to think theyre still making money off me but I got a one time fee. Eventually I just couldnt do it anymore bc i hated it so much.
My first movie i started actually crying in the middle of the scene. Obviously it was my desicion but at the time I didnt realize it would follow me around....forever. i admit i was nieve but they prey on young naive girls usually w a addiction.

 

[jeng1128]

Oh & 1 more thing...its NOT real. Youve got so many people on set...directors telling you what to do & what not to do,stopping you its acting. My relationship now suffers bc he watches my movies(which drives me nuts) & think If I dont act the way I rid in the movie then hes doing somthing wrong. Which is 100% not true. Sure some women love it, but I hated it & its one of my biggest regrets in life. People from my highschool found out my whole town basically....it was awful.

 

[nooneanymore]

^ Thanks for the share. I can see how it follows you around. I've definitely bought "new" videos and then when I look at the production dates they're usually from a bunch of different years from the past.

Hopefully with time the remnants of your time in porn will continue to fade.