Stimulants Why does smoking meth NOT get me high?

[SafeTrouble]

I'm a sporadic meth user. I've smoked it in the past and enjoyed it. But now when I smoke, I literally feel...nothing, which is more disturbing than if I was feeling anxiety or feeling high. It doesn't get me high. But what it does do is as soon as I smoke it, my heart rate increases a lot for about a minute or two and then goes back to slightly-above-normal. I also get the dry mouth, which is a hallmark of amphetamines.

-No, it's not an issue of tolerance. I don't do it nearly enough to have a tolerance (I'll go months without doing it sometimes.)
-I know the issue isn't this particular batch, because I've IV'd it and it was obviously meth.
-I'm definitely smoking enough so that I should be feeling something other than just an increased heart rate.
-I like to keep hydrated, because a friend of mine had a bad experience on meth and got dehydrated. Could my water intake be cleaning the speed out of my body faster than I can get it in?
-Chronic (teehee) marijuana smoker. Not sure how this might play into the equation, but maybe worth mentioning.

I'm quite puzzled trying to figure out what's up with my body that I can't get high by smoking it. Is it possible for meth to go "bad" and lose potency over time? (I stored it very well, but I've had it for at least 2 months now.)

 

[blight12]

I have also tried unsuccessfully and assume its because I am doing it wrong.
I never pursued this however since oral and nasal is addictive enough. Smoking is just asking for shit imo.

 

[revolve]

you might have ADHD? meth usually has a calming, and significantly different effect on people with this condition.

just a thought

 

[ErgicMergic]

^ Even people with ADD can "tweak," they just need slightly higher doses than non-ADD ppl due to their naturally low levels of DA in their pre-frontal cortexes.

It's most likely that you're doing it wrong, OP. Are you doing it out of an "oil burner," using a lighter and not a torch?

 

[SafeTrouble]

^ Even people with ADD can "tweak," they just need slightly higher doses than non-ADD ppl due to their naturally low levels of DA in their pre-frontal cortexes.

It's most likely that you're doing it wrong, OP. Are you doing it out of an "oil burner," using a lighter and not a torch?

I'm not doing it wrong lol. I've done it before the same way I'm doing it now and it worked. I'm using a glass pipe.

you might have ADHD? meth usually has a calming, and significantly different effect on people with this condition.

just a thought

Nah, if anything I'm more on the OCD spectrum rather than ADHD.

I have also tried unsuccessfully and assume its because I am doing it wrong.
I never pursued this however since oral and nasal is addictive enough. Smoking is just asking for shit imo.

Did you see white smoke when you tried to smoke it? Did you burn it by holding the flame too close to the pipe?

 

[littlepenguin]

I'm a sporadic meth user. I've smoked it in the past and enjoyed it. But now when I smoke, I literally feel...nothing, which is more disturbing than if I was feeling anxiety or feeling high. It doesn't get me high. But what it does do is as soon as I smoke it, my heart rate increases a lot for about a minute or two and then goes back to slightly-above-normal. I also get the dry mouth, which is a hallmark of amphetamines.

1. bunk stuff (is it chunky shards or is it powder? if it's powder, it's likely crap.)
2. you're not comsuming enough. you say you 'smoked it in the past.' if the past refers to like, ten years ago, the shit isn't the same.
3. my heart rate increases and I get dry mouth simply because of loss of breath from a loooong slow inhale off the pipe. Your heart rate should be increased for more than two minutes and dry mouth should last for at least an hour or more.
4. I'm not sure if people are expecting some type of fireworks when they smoke this, or expect to start seeing dancing elephants or something. Sometimes, you don't even know/think you're high until you realize you've been intently searching for the color of your aunt's monkey's 3rd toe on his left foot for 2.5 hours. It can be subtle.

-I know the issue isn't this particular batch, because I've IV'd it and it was obviously meth.

If you are used to IV'ing this particular drug, it is likely that you may have some difficulty getting a 'good' high off of it using any other ROA.
You can't tell if it's meth because you IV'd it. You can tell for sure by doing a chemical test. I can't remember exactly off hand what it is, but something like dropping a bit in some bleach and if it darts around, it's good, if it doesn't, it's not (please look this up before doing this, as I said, can't remember exact parameters...)

-I'm definitely smoking enough so that I should be feeling something other than just an increased heart rate.

how much? do you have a scale?

-I like to keep hydrated, because a friend of mine had a bad experience on meth and got dehydrated. Could my water intake be cleaning the speed out of my body faster than I can get it in?

no

-Chronic (teehee) marijuana smoker. Not sure how this might play into the equation, but maybe worth mentioning.

take a day off the 420 and see what happens. it could be masking your high a little bit, but if it was good stuff, it would blow the mary jane out of the water.

I'm quite puzzled trying to figure out what's up with my body that I can't get high by smoking it. Is it possible for meth to go "bad" and lose potency over time? (I stored it very well, but I've had it for at least 2 months now.)

2 months? It should still be just fine.

 

[SafeTrouble]

1. bunk stuff (is it chunky shards or is it powder? if it's powder, it's likely crap.)
2. you're not comsuming enough. you say you 'smoked it in the past.' if the past refers to like, ten years ago, the shit isn't the same.
3. my heart rate increases and I get dry mouth simply because of loss of breath from a loooong slow inhale off the pipe. Your heart rate should be increased for more than two minutes and dry mouth should last for at least an hour or more.
4. I'm not sure if people are expecting some type of fireworks when they smoke this, or expect to start seeing dancing elephants or something. Sometimes, you don't even know/think you're high until you realize you've been intently searching for the color of your aunt's monkey's 3rd toe on his left foot for 2.5 hours. It can be subtle.


I haven't been doing speed for 10 years lol (thank god.) By past I mean a year max. It's not bunk because I've done the same batch before and it worked just fine. They are shards about the size of a match head. I've smoked it before and it was strong. To call it weak now is an understatement. Literally the only thing funky about this meth is that it doesn't get me euphoric, but it has the same taste, appearance, smell, consistency, and physical side-effects as every other meth I've ever done.

If you are used to IV'ing this particular drug, it is likely that you may have some difficulty getting a 'good' high off of it using any other ROA.
You can't tell if it's meth because you IV'd it. You can tell for sure by doing a chemical test. I can't remember exactly off hand what it is, but something like dropping a bit in some bleach and if it darts around, it's good, if it doesn't, it's not (please look this up before doing this, as I said, can't remember exact parameters...)

I'm not "used to" IVing it, I've only slammed a few times and each time was spaced apart by months. I just happened to slam with this same batch and it's definitely methamphetamine. I know the classic meth "rush" when you inject. I can tell the difference between bath salts and methamphetamine. Two different highs. Meth is very distinct, for me anyway. IIRC, meth is insoluble in acetone, so you can do a wash and slightly purify any cuts that way.

how much? do you have a scale?

No scale, but I dumped maybe half a teaspoon in there. Surely that amount would have made me feel something. And it always does, except for the past few times when I've tried smoking it.


take a day off the 420 and see what happens. it could be masking your high a little bit, but if it was good stuff, it would blow the mary jane out of the water.

I don't mix 420+speed, if only for the fact that I might get an anxiety attack. I only smoke marijuana on days I'm not doing anything else.

2 months? It should still be just fine.

I figured as much.


Appreciate the input, but I'm still confused lol.

 

[blight12]

Naa i was being a retard and drunk and trying to smoke it off foil, so yeah no surprise it didnt work. Im glad though.

 

[jizzbomb]

Half a teaspoon, surely not?? half a teaspoon would be like at least like 0.25g and all you need is like 0.05 if you're still relatively new for a decent long pipe if its not bunk.

- How trustworthy is the guy you get it from? because even good friends will give you decent stuff one time and then cut it the next time because its what meth does. Or maybe the guy he got it from has cut it?

- Even if it is rocky it can be easily cut and rebaked with common kitchen items with similar burning points like msn salt. if it looks more murky/milky than clear it has probably been rebaked.

- If you get a little bit of acetone and pour it on a bit of the rock all the impurities will be washed out and whats remaining is the meth

- Of all common recreational drugs i think amphetamines build up your tolerance to it the fastest. (Even in just one year of sporadic usage.)

- I've never IVed myself but i have exactly 7 friends/people i know of that used to or currently IV and have told me a bit about it. They say its a totally different high to smoking it. One of them goes on about high its so much better because you make much more use of it and its cleaner and you dont hurt your lungs and get dry mouth and most of them tell me that its so much more addictive but i digress. Of the ones that recently quit or still do it they say that wether you want to or not, after IVing even once you come out with a different mindset because you know it's potential. they say the only smoke reason they smoke it with us is because its more accepted in social situations and they still get high and stay awake but they dont really feel high and it almost seems like a waste (none of this is directed at you bro) to smoke it because the high feeling are gone/barely there.

-You mentioned smoking marijuana on your days off but (just a totally optional suggestion) you should try lighting a joint a couple hours after wards because for me if i have been on meth (and to a lesser extent ecstacy) for more than a day or two i tend to level out and not get any higher, but what works for me is i smoke a joint and it gets me soooo much more stoned than usual (i think my because my immune system has already taken a beating) but after i get unstoned i can really, really feel the high from the meth again. plus if i have another pipe it feels like my first one from being sober.

Hope some of this stuff helps, my bad if i repeated anything

 

[SafeTrouble]

Half a teaspoon, surely not?? half a teaspoon would be like at least like 0.25g and all you need is like 0.05 if you're still relatively new for a decent long pipe if its not bunk.

- How trustworthy is the guy you get it from? because even good friends will give you decent stuff one time and then cut it the next time because its what meth does. Or maybe the guy he got it from has cut it?

- Even if it is rocky it can be easily cut and rebaked with common kitchen items with similar burning points like msn salt. if it looks more murky/milky than clear it has probably been rebaked.

- If you get a little bit of acetone and pour it on a bit of the rock all the impurities will be washed out and whats remaining is the meth

- Of all common recreational drugs i think amphetamines build up your tolerance to it the fastest. (Even in just one year of sporadic usage.)

- I've never IVed myself but i have exactly 7 friends/people i know of that used to or currently IV and have told me a bit about it. They say its a totally different high to smoking it. One of them goes on about high its so much better because you make much more use of it and its cleaner and you dont hurt your lungs and get dry mouth and most of them tell me that its so much more addictive but i digress. Of the ones that recently quit or still do it they say that wether you want to or not, after IVing even once you come out with a different mindset because you know it's potential. they say the only smoke reason they smoke it with us is because its more accepted in social situations and they still get high and stay awake but they dont really feel high and it almost seems like a waste (none of this is directed at you bro) to smoke it because the high feeling are gone/barely there.

-You mentioned smoking marijuana on your days off but (just a totally optional suggestion) you should try lighting a joint a couple hours after wards because for me if i have been on meth (and to a lesser extent ecstacy) for more than a day or two i tend to level out and not get any higher, but what works for me is i smoke a joint and it gets me soooo much more stoned than usual (i think my because my immune system has already taken a beating) but after i get unstoned i can really, really feel the high from the meth again. plus if i have another pipe it feels like my first one from being sober.

Hope some of this stuff helps, my bad if i repeated anything

Doesn't matter how trustworthy he is, because I've done the same batch when I first received it (2+ months ago) and gotten high off it. There's some other mechanism at work here.

 

[tricomb]

It's probably adulterated to a much higher degree now.

 

[ame]

I had this problem too a while ago but we figured out that we most likely just had shitty stuff which actually just produced the side effects (so possibly just levo meth?). But with 30mg of good stuff i got a more than enjoyable experience. Just try to get the smoke kind of thick in the bulb follow the drop with the lighter, try not to burn it and inhale as much as possible at once. for me it took some hits till i figured out which technique works best for me and gives me the most enjoyable rushing sensation. Even if it sounds stupid, maybe you just need some practice in it. If thats not the case I feel kind of clueless cause i dont know anyone who didnt got high from a nice long hit of crystal

 

[SafeTrouble]

I had this problem too a while ago but we figured out that we most likely just had shitty stuff which actually just produced the side effects (so possibly just levo meth?). But with 30mg of good stuff i got a more than enjoyable experience. Just try to get the smoke kind of thick in the bulb follow the drop with the lighter, try not to burn it and inhale as much as possible at once. for me it took some hits till i figured out which technique works best for me and gives me the most enjoyable rushing sensation. Even if it sounds stupid, maybe you just need some practice in it. If thats not the case I feel kind of clueless cause i dont know anyone who didnt got high from a nice long hit of crystal

I know this might be difficult for some of you to believe, but I'm having no difficulty smoking it. My method of smoking it is not the issue. It's not rocket science lol. I know for a fact that this batch is good, just apparently not when I smoke it.

I literally took a huge plume that looked like a storm cloud. I made 4 large clouds. Nothing. (Except elevated heart rate and slight shakiness.) I feel like I'm chasing the dragon, because I definitely smoked an excessive amount to see if I could feel it. I didn't get the classic "fuck yeah" euphoric rushing feeling.

It's probably adulterated to a much higher degree now.

How do you figure? I did the acetone wash with a small amount of product and used an evaporating dish. I don't have a scale, but the amount of product remaining after the acetone purification looks exactly the same as before the acetone wash. I kind of feel like I just wasted 3 hours evaporating the stuff lol.


Still inconclusive as to why this happens to me (and apparently a few other people in this topic.) Anyone else care to take a stab at my question?

 

[Pinging brah]

I don't know but mine does

 

[Renz Envy]

I'd say find another batch, take a week break and compare both batches. That is if you really want to find the true answer to your question.

Otherwise I'd just have to go with bad product or tolerance.

 

[tina16th]

I know that there's times I get high And other times just a head ach and dry mouth and tired I gotta be in a good mood before I smoke when in good mood or extremely happy then I smoke it's a awsome awsome high but if I'm in a blah or angry sad depressed mood when I try to get high I'm flat line instead of high and it makes a bit of difference when there some one with u vs alone

 

[ame]

I literally took a huge plume that looked like a storm cloud. I made 4 large clouds. Nothing. (Except elevated heart rate and slight shakiness.) I feel like I'm chasing the dragon, because I definitely smoked an excessive amount to see if I could feel it. I didn't get the classic "fuck yeah" euphoric rushing feeling.

This sounds almost exactly like when i had the levoMeth. Id just gave a body load, not real pleasant and no euphoria. Maybe you should really just get a new batch and try it another time. I mean it can be very pure but if its the wrong isomer it doesnt give the high you wanna reach. (If im informed right)

What about Snorting? Does this produce any pleasurable effects? For me I'd was a bit better than smoking when i had the shitty stuff but it didnt got me high aswell. Just Side Effects.

 

[SafeTrouble]

I know that there's times I get high And other times just a head ach and dry mouth and tired I gotta be in a good mood before I smoke when in good mood or extremely happy then I smoke it's a awsome awsome high but if I'm in a blah or angry sad depressed mood when I try to get high I'm flat line instead of high and it makes a bit of difference when there some one with u vs alone

I'm never in a bad mood :D I generally feel like a 10/10. Certain substances bring that up to a 12/10.

I'd say find another batch, take a week break and compare both batches. That is if you really want to find the true answer to your question.

Otherwise I'd just have to go with bad product or tolerance.

Oh, I guess I should have mentioned this in my first post, but I did actually smoke from someone else's batch a few weeks ago. Thanks for reminding me.

And the same thing happened. Physical side-effects were there, but I just wasn't getting high. The person I was with, was tweaking though, probably a bit too much actually.

This sounds almost exactly like when i had the levoMeth. Id just gave a body load, not real pleasant and no euphoria. Maybe you should really just get a new batch and try it another time. I mean it can be very pure but if its the wrong isomer it doesnt give the high you wanna reach. (If im informed right)

What about Snorting? Does this produce any pleasurable effects? For me I'd was a bit better than smoking when i had the shitty stuff but it didnt got me high aswell. Just Side Effects.

I avoid snorting because of how unpleasant snorting meth is and the fact that my snorting nostril is in bad shape due to years of being rough on it. I guess I could try snorting a little and seeing if that works, but I'm done for today, regardless of whether or not I got high, it was still a decent amount of speed I ingested. I'll try snorting it in a few days.


Sorry if I'm being difficult guys, I just wanna get to the bottom of this. I'm thoroughly befuddled as to why this is occurring, given the fact that I've managed to get high from smoking it several times before.
I'm 100% confident that there is nothing wrong with my smoking method or this batch.

 

[ame]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levomethamphetamine <- So maybe this could be true? As I said I experienced sth. very similiar with this.

 

[SafeTrouble]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levomethamphetamine <- So maybe this could be true? As I said I experienced sth. very similiar with this.

This seems like the most plausible answer I've read so far in this topic, but it still doesn't explain why I managed to achieve euphoria with this same batch at an earlier date.
Any way of discerning whether I have Dex-meth or Levo-meth?