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Super-Pills... Irresponsible? Waste of resources?

to me one pill does not necessarily imply one dose, everyones ideal single dose is going to be different, your preferred dose may not be the same as mine.

i would be happy to see plain average/standard looking pills but with the dosage stamped on the side like you would get with mscontins, valium, and plenty of other pharmies. to me all these flash bomb, skull, transformer presses is kiddy shit, and if anything having a smarty pants press like that is enticing kids and idiots...just my opinion though. i suppose iv stepped on some collectors toes...sorry.

a 1g pill would be great, however not convenient (not to mention uneconomical) and defeat the purpose of pressing pills imo.

Unless you believe in darwinism
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natural selection hey, haha, is that why we have military and defence?
 
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The thing is, well round here anyway who goes out and takes just one pill? Most take like 2-3 depending on quality. If your our clubbing for like 8 hours having 2-4 pills is common, mostly 2 pills if they are around the 180-200mg dose, A lot of people can easily bosh 500mg in a night, its not exactly rare
 
You couldnt pay me £100 to take a 300mg pill.
It would be way too intense for me.

I'd have to take it in 1/3rds lol


mattnotrik said:
The thing is, well round here anyway who goes out and takes just one pill? Most take like 2-3 depending on quality. If your our clubbing for like 8 hours having 2-4 pills is common, mostly 2 pills if they are around the 180-200mg dose, A lot of people can easily bosh 500mg in a night, its not exactly rare
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I do, and im sure other people who fully understand how mdma works do as well.
Although i do get that some people appear to get away with it, but im not one of those people unfortunately.
 
hollandhomeboy said:
300mg pills? name one please? i live in the netherlands where all these "superpills" come from, and the most i know are pills going MAX up to like 250mg. the main super's go from 180-230mg.
i dont think it's irresponsible cuz A) you can split it, and B) the pills-coming from the dutch- are being used responsibly by the dutch. the majority of people i know here do halves and sometimes do the other half. i think pills like these in the hands of, say, americans, would be very dangerous. you'd definitely have to reinforce the fact that these bad boys are STRONG.
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lol what rock do you live under bro? dude you are obviously out of the NL loop then. white skulls are the new super pill and are estimated at around 300mg so yeah there is a pill at 300mg. lol wow....

also, im american an i resent your comment about us. yeah there are a lot of dumb ones but not all of us are dumb.
 
300mg pills? name one please?
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skulls are the new super pill and are estimated at around 300mg
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the pills-coming from the dutch- are being used responsibly by the dutch.
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just because you are dutch does not mean you automatically, or intrinsically know how to use pills any better/safer/wiser than a person from another country.
and before i get hate (if i do) , I am an American.
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im american an i resent your comment about us.
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you just bit the 'bullet' - why so patriotic uncle sam?
yeah there are a lot of dumb ones but not all of us are dumb.
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same goes for every country, obviously.
 
i think pills like these in the hands of, say, americans, would be very dangerous.
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Cliched swipe at "american stupidity" anyone?

i think pills like these in the hands of, say, careless ignoramuses, would be very dangerous.
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Fixed that for ya. ;)
 
daytryptr said:
Cliched swipe at "american stupidity" anyone?
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I thought it was more about how most Americans are used to shitty/weak pills which you need to take 2-3 of for a proper effect, so giving them these 300mg pills might lead to them popping 1-2 and ending up way too fucked.

He said he's American himself and you're all assuming he's just saying Americans are all retards.
 
Why would you put 300mg in a pill? One pill, one dose. If people are used to taking 2-3 pills, then if they are not informed they are completely fucked.
 
A 50mg pill would do absolutely nothing too me. I envy anyone who would get a nice experience from that.... I think the 200mg + pills are spot on. No need for double dropping, which is exactly what i would do with a weaker pill. Not because i am irresponsible, but that dose is what i need to hit that sweet spot. Yes indeed 300mg in a tablet is ridiculously strong, but would be perfect to break into halves.

Its down to the user to be clued up and be understanding of HR etc before going out taking ecstasy. Its not the responsibility of the pressers. You could have absolutely anything in your pills, PMA is a prime example of why its essential you do your research before consuming.
 
While MDMA remains illegal, I imagine not much will get done if you're found with 2 or 3 of these. But with an entire gram of mdma crystal? I imagine that's life time sentence for being a dangerous irresponsible person.

Of course this point is nulled once MDMA becomes legal, and I don't know if they're more likely to punish based or weight or numbers, but I imagine numbers since as many people say 1 dose = 1 pill. 'Many pills = dealing' in the eyes of the law.
 
Just got 250mg Orange bombs. We took 1/3 each and got a good smash off that (as we already had 125mg each of MDMA powder).

It is mostly about offering a better spec pill for the money. Fast cars started at 250hp years ago, now they are at 500-600hp off the shelf. More dangerous? Well as long as people are aware there's more power under the hood, then no. But manufacturers still try to 'out-do' eachother with more hp every year. This is basically what the Dutch labs are doing, having a MDMA xMG war.

And just so you guys know, the quality of the Dutch mdma is excellent - no comedown. I mean no fckin comedown. And that was with harden E users who get comedowns all the time. Must be in the purification process or less adulterants or whatever.
 
mark881 said:
Just got 250mg Orange bombs. We took 1/3 each and got a good smash off that (as we already had 125mg each of MDMA powder).

It is mostly about offering a better spec pill for the money. Fast cars started at 250hp years ago, now they are at 500-600hp off the shelf. More dangerous? Well as long as people are aware there's more power under the hood, then no. But manufacturers still try to 'out-do' eachother with more hp every year. This is basically what the Dutch labs are doing, having a MDMA xMG war.

And just so you guys know, the quality of the Dutch mdma is excellent - no comedown. I mean no fckin comedown. And that was with harden E users who get comedowns all the time. Must be in the purification process or less adulterants or whatever.
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Add an in your personal opinion to that and it becomes relevant, but not really.

Anyone who takes a large dose of pure mdma (dutch or not) will have a comedown and negative after affects. Its the pharmacology of the drug, not the purity or lack of adulterants/contaminants.
 
Anyone who takes a large dose of pure mdma (dutch or not) will have a comedown and negative after affects. Its the pharmacology of the drug, not the purity or lack of adulterants/contaminants.
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i disagree. i remember hitting .5/.6 when i was younger and having a lovely lovely glow for the following couple of days that i would hardly call a negative comedown.

While MDMA remains illegal, I imagine not much will get done if you're found with 2 or 3 of these. But with an entire gram of mdma crystal? I imagine that's life time sentence for being a dangerous irresponsible person.
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fine point! fuck the law and any cunt dumb enough to play the fake game, it doesnt really apply to you if your dayyds a barrister or judge! who draws these bullshit lines between right and wrong cause they obviously have their head firmly up their own ass.
 
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i disagree. i remember hitting .5/.6 when i was younger and having a lovely lovely glow for the following couple of days that i would hardly call a negative comedown.
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just saying, its a widely accepted consequence of recreational amphetamine use. mdma at high doses does damage. short term likely, hence the long wait between dosings. high doses of mono amine releasers, especially mdma and its metabolites, and large serotonin/dopamine/NE release, is especially damaging.

I dont think many people can say they took 500-600mg and did not have a crash/comedown/after affects.

perhaps the psychological/emotional afterglow masks this to an extent, but i duobt it, though idk ive never gone that high.
 
I dont think many people can say they took 500-600mg and did not have a crash/comedown/after affects.
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what if they only do md once to three times per year? i did and i can. eating and keeping fluids up is essential making sure you get a good sleep in afterwards is key.

perhaps the psychological/emotional afterglow masks this to an extent, but i duobt it, though idk ive never gone that high.
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you can doubt all you like but if you havn't done it how on earth would you have any idea let alone know?
 
you can doubt all you like but if you havn't done it how on earth would you have any idea let alone know?
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Because i take MD about as often as you do at a third the dose or less, and still get the negative side/after affects from it. Any time i've pushed my dose above 200mg its just been a worse comedown. Granted i can't speak about yours or others opinion/expirence, just saying the general consensus people will agree upon is .5-.6 in one sitting is a bit overboard and not too healthy.

To each his own though ;)
 
it irresponsible for people to take pills without knowing what's in them.
and it would be more irresponsible if these pills contained a cocktail of chemicals,
 
mark881 said:
And just so you guys know, the quality of the Dutch mdma is excellent - no comedown. I mean no fckin comedown. And that was with harden E users who get comedowns all the time. Must be in the purification process or less adulterants or whatever.
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I did some dutch MDMA and the next day I felt fresh.

But then for the following week I got the standard low moods I get after doing MDMA
 
^ I rarely ever get a "comedown or crash" of MDMA, and dont buy into the 5HTP and whatever stuff ever... take mdma, become less UP, smoke some weed take some diaz, or continue partying with some coke and ketamine and then go to bed, wake up feeling no worse than I would after having like 6 or 7 pints of beer, few hours later im completely fine.
 
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