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25I-NBOMe - Should we be dead?

^ I would agree, and I think he buccall method is much safer than snorting or any other ROA
 
Transform said:
"over the course of a night"

NBOMes build tolerance really quickly so I expect this would have helped keep you safe. I've seen several reports that additional doses only increase duration, not intensity.
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^ This is a really key point and I'm glad you brought that up. I've heard of people who waited until after they peaked then redosed several times over a night and were able to push very high doses - when even normal doses caused them problems with vasoconstriction and high blood pressure before.

Though, I wouldn't recommend doing that either, as you're either forced to work up in really small doses which will quickly become ineffective, or take the risk of throwing a high dose on top of the existing vasoconstriction the substance is causing and hoping it doesn't make it even worse.
 
Take it from someone who went to hell on 500ug - and suffered illness for days after, 25i is *very* temperamental
 
Once again I feel the need to point out the "freak-out" quotient!

People who are hardarses will push the envelope regardless of whether or not there are dangers, & whether or not they are aware of them. We call these types idiots/hero's but they are simply risk-takers. If we could legislate against stupidity or risk-taking, we would. But we can't. If we could, life would be easier for us all.

There are idiosyncratic reactions to NBOME's, some of them very serious, but I have to wonder how much danger is related to dosing & how much related to losing the plot while tripping. Sometime people lose it on low dose MDMA & suffer very serious toxic effects, most obviously a temperature & blood pressure rise. Some people lose it on low dose LSD, some even on lowly weed! I have had friends call an ambulance before now coz they smoked too much weed, freaked out & thought they were having a heart-attack!

I wonder how often a nasty freak-out (anxiety attack) precludes a hospital admission or a fatality on NBOMES? I suspect this would be an interesting statistic to examine.
 
I took 5 mg's in 3 doses. (2,1.5,1.5) over the course of 12 hours. Wouldn't do it again. My big toes were blue and pale. Looked pretty much lifeless. Didn't have any other problems though.
 
This is the exact reason these compounds will be illegal, I give it a year maybe less. Darwinism at it's best.
 
PhyllipThylamine said:
Once again I feel the need to point out the "freak-out" quotient!

People who are hardarses will push the envelope regardless of whether or not there are dangers, & whether or not they are aware of them. We call these types idiots/hero's but they are simply risk-takers. If we could legislate against stupidity or risk-taking, we would. But we can't. If we could, life would be easier for us all.

There are idiosyncratic reactions to NBOME's, some of them very serious, but I have to wonder how much danger is related to dosing & how much related to losing the plot while tripping. Sometime people lose it on low dose MDMA & suffer very serious toxic effects, most obviously a temperature & blood pressure rise. Some people lose it on low dose LSD, some even on lowly weed! I have had friends call an ambulance before now coz they smoked too much weed, freaked out & thought they were having a heart-attack!

I wonder how often a nasty freak-out (anxiety attack) precludes a hospital admission or a fatality on NBOMES? I suspect this would be an interesting statistic to examine.
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I recently took two blotter tabs. I lost my mind (and memory of that night) and ended up in the hospital. I guess what I had qualifies as an anxiety attack. Anyway, I don't know the dosage of the tabs, but it had to be pretty high for me to lose my memory. Just a warning to anyone, it is a possibility. Not to say I wouldn't do it again, it's still legal in the US so I say go for it, just a warning.
 
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