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Cocaine When IVing a point to 2 points of coke how many ccs of water do u put in the rig?

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I usually use about 40 to 50ccs but a friend of mine tells me only use like 20cc of water otherwise it dilutes it and makes so u dont get as high. Can someone please clear this up for me please? Its urgent.
 
Cocaine is highly soluble in water, and your friend is misinformed. Using a more diluted solution is NOT weaker, it's MUCH safer for you.

Think about it, your putting the SAME amount of drugs in either 200 units or 500 units. The amount of water has absolutely NOTHING to do with the intensity of the shot.

Cocaine is soluble at something crazy like 2500mg/mL, but the cuts/adulterants call for more water being used.

Tell your friend that logically his views make no sense and that he can prevent bodily harm by diluting his shots properly.
 
K thats what I was hoping to here any other input appreciated...Also a total different question I took 30mg of Valium and 2mg of clonazepam is having these drugs in my system going to decrease the effects of my IV coke experience ? Thanks
 
When I've taken benzodiazepines and cocaine together I have noticed less of the energetic effects, but it also helps with any edginess. Be very careful with your dosages if you choose to do this, People have died from this combination by forgetting how much cocaine they have done and ODing or taking to many benzos to counteract the cocaine when trying to comedown from it and ODing.
 
Blueberrie said:
When I've taken benzodiazepines and cocaine together I have noticed less of the energetic effects, but it also helps with any edginess. Be very careful with your dosages if you choose to do this, People have died from this combination by forgetting how much cocaine they have done and ODing or taking to many benzos to counteract the cocaine when trying to comedown from it and ODing.
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Wait what? I think your confusing opioids + cocaine where the cocaine wears off and the person ODs on the opioids. No ones going to OD on benzodiazepines unless they've been mixing other CNS depressants like alcohol or opioids, but benzodiazepines + cocaine is fine.
 
Soylent said:
I usually use about 40 to 50ccs but a friend of mine tells me only use like 20cc of water otherwise it dilutes it and makes so u dont get as high. Can someone please clear this up for me please? Its urgent.
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40 to 50ccs? You sure? A standard orange capped insulin syringe like a Terumo Myjector is 1ml / 1cc. You mean .4 to .5cc, 40 to 50 units in a 1ml / 1cc pin with 100 graduations. Sorry to be pedantic but it's worth being accurate here I think since you're asking how much fluid to use in the first place. ;)

Your friends plain wrong, as per Tricomb's post. His theory makes no sense when you think about how the solution is diluting into the blood stream as you trickle in and the shot travels away. It doesn't travel all round your system as a nice little liquid slug of coke navigating heart, lungs, heart again until it gets where it needs to be going, does it? It's nonsense.

One disadvantage of using too little solution is that if you start to miss cos the vein moves as you push on the plunger, there's so little fluid there you may not hardly even register you're missing till you've pumped most the shot. More solution = easier to feel you're missing without most of the coke ending up IM / SC instead of IV. Also easier to give yourself chance to gauge the strength of the shot if you trickle slow with more solution. The shot's gonna be hitting before you're even half way through if you go slow enough with say 0.8 - 1ml of solution, and just to reiterate no, that isn't gonna change intensity.
 
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I disagree that the amount of water can't affect your shot.. Certainly the high will basically be the same; but I've found the initial 'rush' can be heavily influenced by the amount of time it takes to inject the solution.
 
If you use more water in a shot it takes longer to inject the solution. Therefore the drug is not getting into your system as fast. How would this not affect the rush? It seems like common sense to me. I know you are getting the same amount of the drug despite the amount of water you use but as I mentioned it gets into your system faster the less water you use.
 
You think taking 30 or 40 seconds seconds to push in a 1ml shot is gonna be vastly different to 0.2ml in 5 or 10 seconds considering it has to travel through the circulatory system passing through heart, lungs, heart to the brain where it can latch onto serotonin, dopamine and noradrenaline transporters blocking reuptake so that the sudden excess of those neurotransmitters at the synapses can produce all those pleasurable effects you're after? Hmmmmm. Interesting.

Coke's a short-lived high but always seemed to me the rush builds over the first few minutes as your brain floods with the neurotransmitters that produce the high, rising to a peak which then starts to fall off some minutes later but it was never boom, here I am all within seconds of the shot going in and an immediate fall off which is what you guys seem to be suggesting is what happens. Here's a study for you that would seem to bear that out. 3 minutes to peak effect IV so what's an extra 30 seconds?
 
tricomb said:
Cocaine is highly soluble in water, and your friend is misinformed. Using a more diluted solution is NOT weaker, it's MUCH safer for you.

Think about it, your putting the SAME amount of drugs in either 200 units or 500 units. The amount of water has absolutely NOTHING to do with the intensity of the shot.

Cocaine is soluble at something crazy like 2500mg/mL, but the cuts/adulterants call for more water being used.

Tell your friend that logically his views make no sense and that he can prevent bodily harm by diluting his shots properly.
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This^.

When shooting coke, you want to use as little water as possible. I never used more than 20 units, and that would be for a really large shot (10 units would almost always suffice). The thing with coke is that almost as soon as the tip of the syringe pierces your vein, your vein will contract (due to cocaine being a strong vasoconstrictor.) so basically, after registering and making sure that you haven't slipped out of the vein, you want to quickly do the shot before you do slip. I guarantee that unless you have very big veins (or really bad coke) if you use over 40 units of water you will end up missing part of your shot which can be very dangerous.
 
Zneg, I think Tricomb was stating the opposite view the way I read it? :? I understand the vasoconstriction point but if you start to miss with only 20 units in the pin you coulda shot half of it before you even click. I could push 10 units of H cooked with citric or more easily before I even clicked on to the fact I was missing if I was pushing too fast. Your way I'd have missed half of a more concentrated shot? That doesn't seem all that safer? Probably worth stating my coke was always in speedballs so I had to have enough water in there to dissolve the coke first and then cook off the H but don't think that especially relevant here as far as speed of hit goes and easier to detect the miss.
 
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