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Benzo Discussion Vol. 3 (I think? Last night's a blur..)

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Mugz said:
Anyone else find that benzos can kind of strangely make you motivational as hell, just finished breakfast, gonna jump in the bath I have already run and I'm all prepared to do all the things on my list of things to do today, sometimes they are a wonder, without this motivation it would be back to bed and then daytime TV all day long.
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if i do them right they do the same to me! I get relaxed enough not to sit about and think about my life, instead i get up and do loads of productive stuff. Im staying clear of them though because I know their potential to really mess me up and I don't want to find out the hard way.
 
I think it's because I haven't taken any benzos today, but yesterday I took some phenaz before sleep and it's lingering into today and in a good way, there were moments when I was out today that I thought, hmmmm, maybe I am a bit benzod out but I noone seemed to realise, everyone was super nice. Not gonna make a habit of it though, I like productivity but I don't like constant benzos to achieve it, also with the risk of being a monged out mess instead.
 
matt<3ketamine said:
the msj's here are certainly weirdly dosed, had about 15 on thursday, was gone with the wind until yesterday, lost 50+, got 20 more, had about 6 last night and barely felt a thing, woke up today and near fell outta bed cuzza jelly legs, i just want consistant blues :(
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Aye i had some msj's that varied dose to dosew, they wernt great. Got some ardin atm which are nice, and a few strips of legit 2mg clonaz which i'm saving for a rainy day =D, there dont seem to be any decent conststant dosed vals about these days, when i was scriped them the ones i was getting off the street were just as good, now im not on a script but my tolerance is much lower and the effects are much lower.

Anyone seen the HK-pharma blues around recently? They were brilliant, they seemed to vanish off the face of this earth though :(
 
Anyone else find that benzos can kind of strangely make you motivational as hell, just finished breakfast, gonna jump in the bath I have already run and I'm all prepared to do all the things on my list of things to do today, sometimes they are a wonder, without this motivation it would be back to bed and then daytime TV all day long.
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I pretty much only use them for hangovers and they motivate me. I go from laying in bed, tired and sick as fuck, to getting up and being productive. They worked wonders at uni, when I was hungover I'd never go to class but if I ate some blues I'd get motivated to go and the lessons would fly past. Might not have remembered much of it though. :D
 
yeah they get me motivated sometimes. sometimes i prefer the relaxed day after of them, makes the day nicer
 
The WWD10's I have been getting for the past 2 months have been consistently brilliant. Happy boy :)
 
i wonder how many of you that take benzos of script would be right fuked if you were denied any benzos ?

A few of you would def. get withdraw n maybe some proper hooked.
 
brimz said:
i wonder how many of you that take benzos of script would be right fuked if you were denied any benzos ?

A few of you would def. get withdraw n maybe some proper hooked.
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TBH that was one of the main drivers for me to get them off script, Doctors were unwilling to prescribe them at the level or for the duration I felt I needed.

Self medication is rarely a good idea and it is understandable that Doctors are cautious with Benzos these days, very few people seem to use them off script and maintain a therapeutic dose.
 
atm23 said:
very few people seem to use them off script and maintain a therapeutic dose.
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I dunno about that atm...and I don't just mean myself...my wife too, none of my real life friends have ever had benzo addictions, and there's certainly more than half a dozen who use stims and like us, benzos for comedowns etc....

I know two people in my village who are well known benzo/alc addicts (there's a fucking shitload of alcoholics).....

I know there are also likely to be a fair few hidden benzo addicts, and a few supported by GP scripts, but I think sometimes there's a bit toooooo much weight on this forum overwarning people about the perils and dangers of addiction...

I know HR is key etc, but in these cases, there are people who just use occasional low dose benzos who are being told there is potential for addiction and even that they should start a taper....

I really think for some of these people a taper would be what starts an addiction that was never there. And for others the fear of withdrawals brought about by reading this board could make "withdrawal symptoms" apparent when they are not really even in withdrawal...

this is a bit jumbled (westons vintage, fine weed), but i have got a point in there somewhere i think...
 
Mailmonkey said:
I really think for some of these people a taper would be what starts an addiction that was never there. And for others the fear of withdrawals brought about by reading this board could make "withdrawal symptoms" apparent when they are not really even in withdrawal...

this is a bit jumbled (westons vintage, fine weed), but i have got a point in there somewhere i think...
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Yup - the nocebo effect. It's like the evil twin (mwhahahah) of the placebo effect.
 
Benzos made me leave uni today to go home and sleep. To be honest I'm completely wrecked and felt that I may as well take advantage of the leftover benzos in my system and catch up on some sleep rather than be tired all week.

I find benzos can make more sociable in lower doses, before I get blue'd out. I'm pretty sure I've some form of anxiety in the first place, so they sort've round the edge off. I'm a lot more sociable with family and more interested in having longer conversations, which to be honest is a pity as I'd love to be like that all the time.
 
You make a fair point MM, I would imagine the addiction profile is similar to alcohol, likely a bit worse as they are easier to take and remain functional.

What I really meant was that if you are taking them as a means of self medicating for anxiety and/or depression this will often lead to dependence and excessive dosing.

I certainly don't mean to demonise Benzos, I've managed to get in fairly deep with them more than once but managed to dig my way back out largely unscathed, that said they do creep up on you and I think it is important people understand the risks and possible withdrawal dangers which are very real.

Regulars here are well versed in such things so I suppose some of that could come across as patronising and condescending but we have a massive number of lurkers:sus: who may not be so well informed.
 
specialk_ said:
i find benzos can make more sociable in lower doses, before i get blue'd out. I'm pretty sure i've some form of anxiety in the first place, so they sort've round the edge off. I'm a lot more sociable with family and more interested in having longer conversations, which to be honest is a pity as i'd love to be like that all the time.
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snap!
 
I dunno about that atm...and I don't just mean myself...my wife too, none of my real life friends have ever had benzo addictions, and there's certainly more than half a dozen who use stims and like us, benzos for comedowns etc....
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Same. Never even been close to having a problem with benzos and I've used them as needed (for sleep, hangovers, comedowns, anxiety, relaxation) for years now. When I was a student I was pissed every day, so I was taking benzos every day to ward off a hangover. When I stopped being pissed every day there was no withdrawls or addiction issues. Same when travelling, boshing them for long bus journeys, to sleep in hostels, for hangovers, for shits and giggles for months on end. Come home, stop taking, them no problems, no withdrawl, no addiction issues.

Maybe on BL a lot of people can't use them properly but it's the same for a lot of drugs and people on here.
 
I had a 300mg a day Diaz habit, was put on a 30mgs script and reduced by 2mgs a fortnight! Pretty painless once you learn to step outside the benzo'd bubble! Easier said than done! To me they are a lot like opiate, in that they make Everything COOL! :) for a while, then addiction and tolerance creeps up! Takes a lot longer than with opiates though!
 
A few weeks re cycling

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