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Afghani H

chaseconroe

chaseconroe

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I just bought a gram of this stuff should be here any day now, it's a brown powder I'm not familiar with anything but tar. How do you go about preping this stuff for iv?
 
you put in on a spoon with water, then heat it up with a lighter until the water is warm/hot..then put a cotton ball on it, and suck it up through that with the needle. Put it in your arm, and pull the plunger back..if it draws blood youve found a vein.
 
Not exactly what I would call a reputable source.

It is well-known within the HR community that heating a shot simply allows for the cuts that are not water soluble to dissolve into the shot.

Do not heat shots.
 
Perhaps we can reach a consensus, how about heating it (in order to kill any forms of life that might wanna eat you from inside out), and then letting it cool before drawing up the syringe? As it cools off all non soluble particles should precipitate... There might be some residue at the cotton, but that ain't dope, those are the cuts and crap... At least this is what came to my mind in harm reduction thinking...
 
It takes 5-15 minutes at boiling to kill a majority of bacteria, no I cant source it but I remember reading it from a source on here. Dont boil shots.
 
Studies have shown that heating it for 5-20 sec to a temp below boiling DOES kill SOME bacteria and viruses. Just because it doesn't sterilize it doesn't mean it does nothing. And studies have also shown populations of drug users who heat their dope do have lower incidences of disease than those who do not heat their dope (but those studies were obviously including people who do not always use new syringes). However, the problem with heating it, then letting it cool completely, then filtering it is that most people are too impatient to actually let it cool completely. And if you are using fresh syringes every time, sterile filters, cookers and water, then it's not all that likely that your drugs are contaminated by bacteria and viruses. However, on the other hand, many of the most commonly-used cuts are not very toxic anyway, or are already soluble in cold water. So I do agree that whether or not to cook one's heroin is a matter of personal choice, BUT I believe people should be fully educated about the risks and benefits or either choice so they can make an informed decision, instead of just automatically cooking it because that's what a lot of other people do.
 
Yeah, it is a stupid choice to cook your shots but a choice none-the-less. You only need to cook base heroin with water and acid. No heroin user waits for the shot to cool down, i can comfortably speculate.
 
I tried to tell my friends to stop heating their shots but they are 100% convinced holding a lighter under the spoon for 10 seconds kills all bacteria. They also think heroin needs to be heated to dissolve, they don't realize the insoluable cuts are what they are seeing dissolve into the heated up water.
 
^Yeah, that's a big problem. People don't think about the fact that street "heroin" is not by any means pure and that the undissolved crap that can remain when you don't heat it is not the actual heroin. I can empathize, I thought the same way before someone explained it to me.
 
Guys you need to read the thread title. It's Afghani. Brown. Base H. No point arguing the toss if you're not even talking about the right gear, is there? The advice above on not cooking might be right for heroin HCl, but it is simply wrong for base. 8) Luckily in this instance the advice given is not dangerous, but come on, we need to be accurate with the information here, FGS!

Chaseconroe, it does need heating. As little as possible, but it will need it. You also need to use citric acid or vitamin c powder to help dissolve the H. It won't break down in plain water, hot or cold. Add a very small sprinkling of ( I'll assume ) citric, add water, heat very gently. Start low with the citric to avoid the shot becoming too acidic, less than you think it will need. Small sprinkling anyways, you can always add more. Do not boil, just heat till the edges of the solution begin to very gently bubble then stop immediately. Stir. If you're there it will come clear ( it will start sorta murky / cloudy with the powder in suspension, not solution ). If it's not there add a very few more grains of citric, reheat gently and stir again, and so on until solution comes clear ( or clearer, depending on cuts ). Hopefully it will look quite bright as solution, though could be any colour from piss yellow to reddish or dark, dark brown. You may still end up with some residue in the spoon. Don't try and force that to dissolve, it's likely cuts that won't go into solution anyways but be guided by the look of the solution, not what's left in your spooon. Then good to go.
 
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opium said:
you put in on a spoon with water, then heat it up with a lighter until the water is warm/hot..then put a cotton ball on it, and suck it up through that with the needle. Put it in your arm, and pull the plunger back..if it draws blood youve found a vein.
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no you don't add heat whatsoever to it, there is no need. it only allows otherwise potentially insoluble cuts to enter the solution and precipitate back into the solution once it has cooled. the danger in this is the particulate matter accumulates in arteries, blood vessels, lungs, etc which may lead to long term health problems down the road.

the exception to this rule is using small amounts of heat with BTH on occasion and also with the heroin that is predominant in the UK region (base) which needs citric acid to help break it down to become soluble. even then i don't think heat is needed, unless, like BTH where it helps it breakdown otherwise.

if you've got access to micron filters or sterifilts they're essential for filtering to eliminate any bacteria that may be present as a contaminant in the heroin. a .22 micron filter will eliminate this along with particulate matter which will otherwise pass through a cig filter.
 
Sepher said:
Guys you need to read the thread title. It's Afghani. Brown. Base H. No point arguing the toss if you're not even talking about the right gear, is there? The advice above on not cooking might be right for heroin HCl, but it is simply wrong for base. 8) Luckily in this instance the advice given is not dangerous, but come on, we need to be accurate with the information here, FGS!
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Oh that's interesting, I wasn't aware that the heroin from Afghanistan available in the US was always base heroin. If it is base heroin, then yes it does require heat and an acid in order to get it to dissolve. I have never had base heroin in North America and I've had brown powder heroin, or even so-called "Afghani dope" (I have no idea if it was in fact actually from Afghanistan) that worked fine with no acid. So I guess I just assumed since the OP was in the US that it was hcl. Sorry if that was incorrect.
 
Can't be 100% sure of course SD but almost certainly base H if brown of Afghani origin. 99.9% and then some! ;) Course could be a doubt depending on the source if it's really Afghani or not but still, I'll assume the OP know's what he's talking about and it is in fact of Afghan origin. Seems more reasonable than assuming it's something else entirely just cos he's based in the US. H in Europe is pretty much all Afghan base, %ages probably in the high 90s again. In the 10 years-ish I was using saw tar once, never, ever the HCl. 'China White' how it was generally referred to, sold at a huge premium as a special rarity.
 
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Yes this is very pure afghan h I ordered from Italy it is light brown color and claimed to be 90% pure with that being said now how do I prep a shot?
 
Actually i would follow the article, although not ALL the bacteria is killed if most of it killed it is better than letting it sit in there with a cold shot. I remember after i started doing cold water lines in my nose with black tar i would get pneumonia and sick easily. But when i was cooking them i would just get a runny nose, not bacterial infections that send me to the doctor/ hospital. Cook it till it just starts to boil if you got tar , with other dope.. its up to you.
 
Ok, so im guessing that the reseason you can order this of the web is cause it comes for afgani.. whatever and they dont really care about the dea showing up cause they are used to real soldiers, it would be a joke for them (lets hope the feds try anyway, do us all a favor. Well i guess its about time those chaps do something nice for once, they prob think they are being clever and "attacking the youth and future leaders with evil drugs or maybe secretly corrupting the very moral fib-ire of the infidels from within ultimetly leading to our total destruction. Well lets take advantage before they realize we are totally fucked already and dont need any help (naa, its all good, dont panic).

I just hope they want to destroy africa as well so i can get me some of that sweet corruption and what not.

<snip: you know better than to ask that, however covertly>

Anyways, time for a change from meth, appparently i talk alot of shit (i say sharing wisdom) but its the drug, please dont blame me. I had to use the autosave recovery literally 6 times for this so you can thank the inventor of that epic feature for this friendly reminder why you do the magical opium and not that meth shit. Your welcome.
 
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