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Opioids Plugging Codeine CWE

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flippinhippies

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Hi, I know there is info on this topic scattered within threads but I wanted to make a new thread to make it easier for fiends like myself to find.

I was wondering how much more effective plugging a CWE of codeine tabs would be. I typically do an extraction on 20 325/15/8 tabs which should yield about 160mgs of codeine (fuck ya Canada!!)

I want to make this dose, which I determined to be the golden dose weighing out costs and effects, the most effective it can possibly be. I drink 40mg of DXM and some grapefuit juice, and potentiate with half a tab of gravol and half a tab of doxylamine succinate.

QUESTION!! how much better will squirting this stuff up my ass make it? I recently tried putting 5ml up there and drank the rest and noticed a bit faster onset. How much fluid can one put up there? How much better will it be? any other recomendations on making my CWE better?
 
you can plug codeine, but it may make you unpleasantly itchy and doesn't really provide much more of an effect than taking it orally (codeine needs to be metabolised to become effective)
 
So stomach acids and food and shit doesnt have much of an effect on absorbtion?

And the itch couldnt be worse than PST, which I find to be as bad or worse than a high dose of oxys.
 
I do it because I don't have to worry about the taste and Its about the same as oral dosing might be marginally stronger/weaker. I would add more tabs instead of using DXM,gravol,grapefruit juice as it is much cheaper and codeine is hard to potentate unless you have promethazine which is so hard to find in canada.
 
Is there any way to remove some of the caffeine from the extraction? If I use more than about 20 tabs then the caffeine content will be too high and will take away from any noddi-ness there might be.
 
flippinhippies said:
Is there any way to remove some of the caffeine from the extraction? If I use more than about 20 tabs then the caffeine content will be too high and will take away from any noddi-ness there might be.
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flippinhippies said:
Is there any way to remove some of the caffeine from the extraction? If I use more than about 20 tabs then the caffeine content will be too high and will take away from any noddi-ness there might be.
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Do your cwe, then simmer the solution with a very light boil in a pot until it is only about 10-20ml. Poor into a small cup, I use a shot glass and refrigerate. The solution is supersaturated with caffeine so crystals will slowly form and once they start the whole thing turns into a white crystally sludge, it is pretty awesome. Then just simply refilter this sludgy solution, and the final clear liquid is mostly codeine. The
Filtrate will be caffeine.

This works because at 5 degrees celcius, only aproximately 600mg of caffeine is soluble in 100ml of water. Thus in 10-20ml of water, only 60-120mg of caffeine is soluble, and the rest will recrystalize and precipitate out.

Sometimes it takes up to 4 hours for this to work, which is why I save the filtrate from my previous caffeine extraction, and then place about 25mgs of it into my supersaturated solution once it has cooled in the fridge , and this instantly works as seeds for the rest of the caffeine to quickly crystallize out from into the solution. I got some pics I'll post a bit later from previous cwe's I've done where I boiled it down after and precipitated the caffeine out.

And codeine is perfectly stable in lightly boiling water, it is a common myth that it will be destroyed if boiled.
 
sekio said:
you can plug codeine, but it may make you unpleasantly itchy and doesn't really provide much more of an effect than taking it orally (codeine needs to be metabolised to become effective)
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Why would it make you more itchy?

p.r. codeine is mostly the same as oral except of that it hits you faster and so it may feel like it's stronger.
 
@ pBuilder, pics would be appreciated! Why do you have to boil the solution, does it simply separate the two into separate solutions?
 
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@ pBuilder, pics would be appreciated! Why do you have to boil the solution, does it simply separate the two into separate solutions?
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It evaporates the water down to a small volume, and codeine is still very soluble in a small amount of cold water, where as caffeine isn't. But you can't do a cwe on 100 pills with 10ml from the start for obvious reasons, which is why you use 150ml and then evaporate it down.
 
I never felt itchy on codeine no matter the amount, lol. I guess we're just meant to be lol.
 
^^ well that's very odd as its known in most people to cause a massive histamine reaction, ymmv! ;) I suppose
 
The first time I had codeine, I mean, I never slept so well that night since back in early childhood lol. It was like a love between me and the pillow where I would hug the pillow tight as if it was Natalie Portman.

My Canadian acetaminophen with caffeine and codeine 300-15-8 pill count is 15,000 pills so far LOL :)

That's going to the pharmacy asking "acetaminophen with caffeine and codeine, size 200, I've had before" over 75 times in 5 years! Sorry, I like statistics haha :)
 
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I get itchy when I take large doses of 400mg +. Mostly it's my face that itchs. I prefer poppyseed tea though, man sometimes the seeds at my organic store are super fucking potent lol. The tea can end up quite bitter. My first and only nods were from poppyseed tea, it was actually kinda uncomfortable being nauseous and barely able to keep my eyes open. Codeine and oxy have never made me nod. I have little experience with oxy though, my highest dose being like 30mg percs or original OxyContin, or 80 mgs of the oxyneo formulation which felt like 10mgs.
 
By the way, for promethazine to be useful, it needs to be taken AFTER the codeine has worked its magic. AFAIK, promethazine is a CYP-P450-2D6 substrate.

And don't forget, its going to take a huge shit on the dopaminergic and reinforcing properties of opioids, it is one of the phenothiazine type typical antipsychotics, although weak enough to be used as an antinauseant.
 
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