UK drug legalisation: the grimmer lessons from around the world

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By Colin Freeman World Last updated: October 22nd, 2012

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Like anyone who prefers government to leave us alone where possible, I find myself in a dilemma over last week's report by the UK Drug Policy Commission. It recommends scrapping criminal penalties for possession of small amounts of drugs, arguing that the £3 billion a year Britain spends fighting the drug trade could be better spent on treatment.

Sensible enough, surely. After all, the liberal inside me says that letting people make up their own minds about drugs is generally a good thing, while the free marketeer knows that interfering in supply and demand is never easy. The Economist, a magazine I greatly admire, has argued for drug legalisation for decades, as too now are growing numbers of developing world leaders, who want to stop drug wars tearing their countries apart. Anyone who's followed the carnage that cocaine trafficking is currently wreaking in Mexico, or seen, as I have, how it's corrupting entire West African governments, may find it hard to disagree.

And yet somehow, I do. Because for all Commission's careful analysis – their report is the result of six years' research – their conclusions remain somewhat theoretical. The fact remains that legalising or decriminalising drugs would still be a giant leap into the unknown.

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What a ridiculous article. Apparently the U.K. can't be compared to the Netherlands or Portugal, but comparisons to Iran and Yemen are completely valid!
 
The fact remains that legalising or decriminalising drugs would still be a giant leap into the unknown.

Good god did mankind ever achieve anything not taking a giant leap into the unknown?
Arguably mankinds greatest achievements involved doing just this - The great explorers, man on the moon, the advent of rock music... Should we have not done these things just because we weren't 100% certain about the outcome? The modern way's repressed as fuck, and personally I'd be more fearful of pissing away time, money and lives doing the same thing and expecting a different result :|
 
40 years of a war on drugs, and its estimated that it has been less than 1% effective. It was been 100% effective at destroying lives however.
 
How is this POSSIBLY any different from ANY other recreational drug?

I know what you mean, that booze works marginally well being integrated into our society so other drugs are likely to work, but we can agree all drugs have their unique social (and otherwise) consequences.

Good god did mankind ever achieve anything not taking a giant leap into the unknown?
Arguably mankinds greatest achievements involved doing just this - The great explorers, man on the moon, the advent of rock music... Should we have not done these things just because we weren't 100% certain about the outcome? The modern way's repressed as fuck, and personally I'd be more fearful of pissing away time, money and lives doing the same thing and expecting a different result :|

Then the question becomes is such a leap warranted based on the perceived risk. Such a very big leap potentially, one which could truly upset society. I believe a gradual approach is best.

40 years of a war on drugs, and its estimated that it has been less than 1% effective. It was been 100% effective at destroying lives however.

I hear. Yes, the war on drugs has wrought havoc. Now what would the world be if there was no war? What will happen to the number of degenerates? It is likely to go up, for one. Just food for thought.
 
It is likely to go up, for one. Just food for thought.

Why? Do you have anything to consolidate this with??


People who want to do drugs are already doing drugs. Some just drink or take legal highs instead of the illegal ones, but we're all a bunch of junkies looking for a fix any way we can.

Now, some people may not be able to do the drugs they want because they are illegal.. but they just find other shit to fill the gap. I don't think anything would be different if drugs were legal. It's not like everyone is just going to get up and say "I want to do heroin" just because it's legal...
 
The problem is that your guess is as good as mine

My fear is that when drugs become more available, more people will flock to them and spend their lives pursuing them instead of participating in society.
 
It is likely to go up, for one. Just food for thought.
in countries like portugal that have decriminalized to a pretty good degree, use tends to go up (a small but statistically significant) amount initially, and then drug use goes back to normal levels.

reason for increase: media exposure during legalization. reason for going back to normal: the law is never a deterrent when it comes to medicine and health and happiness. nobody really stays away from drugs just "because the law says they're bad"... culture is older than that, now, i hope :)

or, maybe we will somehow figure how to administer law without interfering with medicine etc..
 
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My fear is that when drugs become more available, more people will flock to them and spend their lives pursuing them instead of participating in society.

The key is do allow moderate responsible drug use and use the trillions of dollars used to fight the war on drugs to help abusers and addicts. Really no different to cigarettes and alcohol. The issue isnt people who do drugs, its sending innocent people to jail and neglecting drug addicts.
 
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