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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread-10th Dose-Addiction? But I'm only on it 24/7...

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the toad said:
Wallace, I think you'll be fine... I went thru nearly 70 grams in less than 6 months...
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Seems like recreational usage to me ;)

I haven't had a decent mxe trip in quite some time. Nowadays I prefer 10mg-ish doses, strong enough to get that nice buzz - too low for my jedi powers to awaken. It's quite pleasant to use in calm social environments, provided you are with other druggies.
 
This is one hell of a drug. I've been wanting to do it since last year, but then I made the decision to kick opiates which led to me staying stone cold sober for a while. But I never forgot about this thing. Got a gram in the mail a couple weeks ago and finally tried a small amount tonight. And... wow. The only other drug to have this much of an impression on me after the first use was ecstasy. That tells me that 1) this drug is fucking fun and 2) this is not a drug to abuse. And by "abuse" I mean "use more often than once a month." I got burned by X when I was younger and I'm not gonna let that happen again. All you daily users of MXE really need to step back and examine your lives. You might not think you're doing that much damage yet--I told myself the same thing when I was rolling every weekend--but you're not gonna know that you took it too far until it's too late.

By the way, next time you're high on MXE listen to Bone Thugs' greatest hits chopped and screwed with the iTunes visualizer open. That might have been the most profound 30 minutes of my life.
 
Effuzion said:
this is not a drug to abuse. And by "abuse" I mean "use more often than once a month."
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Great advice. I had a similar outlook when I became interested in MXE, and I really wish I had stuck to my principles. Hopefully you can have better self control than I did.

Luckily I feel at this point like I've basically completely recovered from my excessive MXE use, so I will be able to approach it again, although much more respectfully the second time around. :)
 
ColtDan said:
it has a lovely opiated feeling sometimes. especially with benzos
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I would not advice MXE + benzos, atleast not in higher dosages. Speaking of experience. The control you lose on that combo is not like alcohol and benzos, this was actually one of the most horrible experiences i ever had with a drug. It just said snap and then I could not find myself or figure who i was for several hours, although i could move around like normal and desperately twist around in bed having no clue what was going on. I was in some way conscious so i tried to find myself, but myself was gone, i eventually got back after the MXE had worn off but that was ultimate horror. Not saying that its not possible to enjoy these in low doses, i have done so several times but its so easy to go overboard with the benzo and that fucked me over. Ill never do it again tho, thats for sure.


So, me and my 1 year long run on MXE right now? Sure has a proper grip around my balls but I have not done it in 1.5 week now, gone sober 8 of these days (amphetamines and benzos as a "replacement"), so that’s very good, just hope i manage to keep it that way. Have surprisingly not had any extreme urges to buy another bag but of course, its still there, in the back of my mind and i felt a slight headeach the first 4 - 5 days after i quit.
 
mazing said:
So, me and my 1 year long run on MXE right now? Sure has a proper grip around my balls but I have not done it in 1.5 week now, gone sober 8 of these days (amphetamines and benzos as a "replacement"), so that’s very good, just hope i manage to keep it that way. Have surprisingly not had any extreme urges to buy another bag but of course, its still there, in the back of my mind and i felt a slight headeach the first 4 - 5 days after i quit.
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Have you tried going a day without any substances? Sometimes when I would take a break from mxe, I would try and go completely sober for the first few days just to recover a little faster. I usually always ended up smoking pot though. Not that any of it really made a difference, the half life of mxe is still extremely long.

the toad said:
Wallace, I think you'll be fine... I went thru nearly 70 grams in less than 6 months...
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How did you go through so much material, seriously? How much were you dosing a day to do so much in such a short span of time?
 
I just found a "Statement of evidence" about methoxetamine by the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) in the UK. it can be found here:

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/agencies-public-bodies/acmd1/statement-methoxetamine

(the file is a PDF, but for some reasons it doesn't have a PDF extension directly after downloading, at least for me, so in order to read it, I had to rename it to .PDF manually).

this document finally contains some scientific data about the binding profile of methoxetamine (pages 13ff). maybe someone knowledgeable in pharmacology can have a look at it and sum it up for us laymen...?

what surprises me is that methoxetamine seems to have no significant affinity for the opioid receptors, the dopamine reuptake transporters and the sigma receptors, if I understand this correctly?

further experimental details can be found at the website http://pdsp.med.unc.edu/ according to the document (top of page 13). under "Binding Assay" or "Functional Assay" in the menu bar.

EDIT: I just found out there is already a thread about this in the "advanced drug discussion"-secton: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/649843-Binding-data-for-popular-arylcyclohexamines
 
J.Wallace said:
Have you tried going a day without any substances? Sometimes when I would take a break from mxe, I would try and go completely sober for the first few days just to recover a little faster. I usually always ended up smoking pot though. Not that any of it really made a difference, the half life of mxe is still extremely long.
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Oh yeah, 8 days 100% sober (apart from a couple of beers and 5 - 6 cigarettes) before i consumed/binged on amphetamines and benzos on thursday, and yesterday.

During this year on MXE i have gone 1 month sober (pretty much 100% sober aswell), but there is something about MXE that makes me want to come back or never forget about it. Its such an easy drug to quit but also oh so hard to resist because of its simplicity and its wide potential, 10 mgs are fantastic in its own way and feels completely different than 50 mgs which also is fantastic and has something unique with it.

Its the closest thing to a psychedelic drug that will never turn you down IMO (unless you overdose or combo with wrong substances).

On what other drug (or any other human way) can you possibly experience the sensation of laying down in your bed and ride or float with your bed outside your window and down to the garden, slide into a secret tunnel that will take you to cloud 9 - all this whilst the music you listen too synchronizes with the movement of your bed? I have also smelled certain flowers and perfumes that fit perfectly to the music...

The best moments i have ever had in my life were on psychedelic drugs, however, nothing can touch MXE when it comes to the many out of this world experiences i have had on it, it has NEVER let me down unless i overdosed or combined with the wrong substance(s), the best moments would best be described as psychedelic heroin, simply a wonderland.

3 or 4 months after i began using it regularely it was like a dream going to work, my job was flipping amazing and life in general was just pure flow.


So yeah, its kinda hard to quit cold turkey and completely forget about methoxetamine.



But of course, there is a price to pay for this, it sure has done some harm without me wanting to mention in specific, i have let people that i care about down because of it, it has done something to my brain such as psychotic episodes, seizures and a couple of other things. I guess that is or was the price i had to pay to experience such things and of course my lack of willpower. But how can one have willpower when they experience such things:

On what other drug (or any other human way) can you possibly experience the sensation of laying down in your bed and ride or float with your bed outside your window and down to the garden, slide into a secret tunnel that will take you to cloud 9 - all this whilst the music you listen too synchronizes with the movement of your bed? I have also smelled certain flowers and perfumes that fit perfectly to the music... And many similar experiences
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I will taper down instead of quitting cold turkey or swapping it with some other drug. I am aware of my problem with this drug so, if i fail the taper, then i will seek help or just be a fucking depressed robot and quit cold turkey.

Ill order a bag this week that ill have in the weekend and the week after, then go sober the next week (inhale some nitrous/smoke cigarettes if "that" boredom kicks in).

A gram every second month (and no other drug but MXE or psychedelics) or something, if i managed to do that i would be so happy.
 
J.Wallace said:
I've been sober for 3 weeks tomorrow night. As many of you know, I went through a lot since March, well over 25 grams just to myself. My question has to do with after effects. I've noticed nothing major, nothing that has affected me in really bad ways. I have however noticed a lot of eye wiggle, my vision wiggling for 2 or 3 seconds randomly at times, even flashes of colors. Sometimes my vision flashes hue's of purple, and other colors but purple sticks out the most.

Also, my perception seems to warp at times, more so than when I abused "Acid" which was more often than not an RC on some tabs or some shitty doses. Sometimes I look at something and it kind of elongates, like a corridor or hallway becoming longer and longer.

The biggest thing I've noticed is the eye wiggles. My vision sometimes wiggles on it's own, it's extremely weird. Anybody experience such strange after effects from such heavy usage?
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I never noticed anything but some headeach in the start (and cravings) when i quit for 1 month 100% sober. Same about the 1.5 weeks i have now, i experienced a slight headeach for 4 or 5 days, not felt anything else after that but obvious cravings.

I think there are many different batches out there, atleast based on all the forums i have browsed regarding MXE discussion. Seems to be different colours, size of crystals/size of powder, taste etc.

What was your ROA?


Personally not been happy with 5/50 (roughly) bags i have received, especially the powder MXE, it feels so unpredictable and somehow dirty compared to the shiny crystal ones.
 
I really shouldnt be here talking about MXE, writing down that experience(s) i had on it made me:

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...order a gram.



Tapering down, may it work. :?
 
Limitbreaker said:
I can't imagine on how would tapering down work considering the addiction is strictly psychological :(
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Yep you're right, its gonna be a bitch, but i have tried quitting cold turkey 3 times before, failed all of them.

If i quit cold turkey ill go 1 or maybe even 2 months 100% sober and tell myself "good boy, deserve some methoxy now" or simply have a bad day and we're back in the game like never before because it feels so great after those 2 months 100% sober.

Dicipline is what i need when tapering down, i know i will get to that sensation again, but I have to wait for it or else i have to seek help as i am aware of my problem and the MXE will ruin my head if i keep going all day long 7 days/week. Now i do not want to lose my mind over a drug when i know that i can use it without ruining my head with a little bit of dicipline.

I will not touch the MXE i recently ordered until Friday. So i will buy 1 gram in the middle of November, im certain that i can manage to order 2 gs and have them laying around without going nuts, but im not gonna risk that in my first responsible MXE month.

In december ill order 1 gram to last the whole month and only use in the weekend, 250 mgs/weekend - 5 holes/weekend or high the whole weekend.

January 1 gram.

February nothing.

March 1 gram.

Gonna bookmark this post. :) I know i can do this if i keep myself abit more occupied and start excersising more...

I'll ask my vendor to limit my orders aswell. (exciting to see what they say about this...)
 
dunno how people can do so much of this stuff, would send me batshit crazy
 
The same could be written about vodka. Is not that right? Just stick to reasonable use.
The ACMD are not aware of any confirmed deaths solely related to methoxetamine
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This is important.
 
Sweetshare said:
The same could be written about vodka. Is not that right? Just stick to reasonable use.

This is important.
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Just because it doesn't kill people on its own doesn't mean it's reasonable to use often. I doubt MDMA or LSD alone has killed anybody either, but using either too often can cause damage that lasts months or even years. On the other hand, opiates kill plenty of people but every day heroin use for a week would cause less long term damage than every day use of MDMA for a week.
 
Anyone here use Methoxetamine to control opiate withdrawal symptoms?

Anyone here use Methoxetamine to control opiate withdrawal symptoms? I'm helping a family member (he lives with me) get off suboxone and get clean. He's on 90-120mg/day oxy right now. Was on very (really very) high dose subox for 4 years before that. This is day 10 of the switch from subox to oxy. When oxy runs low he is going cold turkey.

I'm going to be the one holding his hand, cleaning up, and deciding when calling 911 is needed. This is not my first rodeo by any means. But I'm pretty sure it will be the roughest one. Have posted more detail here and here on Introductions and healthy living threads.

Can clonodine and immodium be used safely with Methoxetamine? Is there anything else (such as Benadryl) that should be avoided? What are the warning signs that the Methoxetamine is causing life-threatening side effects? Can you become addicted to Methoxetamine in 5 days? Etc.

Would like to hear from anyone who has used Methoxetamine to deal with opiate withdrawal. PMs welcome as well.
 
^ I've never been addicted to opiates or anything really, but I've recently tried both kratom tea while on MXE and I also tried Cocaine while on MXE, and I think it made both substances less addictive. I had no addictive urges where I figured there would be. IME it does have slight anti-addictive properties but obviously my opinion doesn't carry as much weight as someone who has dealt with addiction long term.
 
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