MSB Banned

Is that right October 2014? Jeez,I thought it may have been a few months at the most. That's harsh.
harsh? i'll disagree.

i'm not going to discuss the specifics of msb's case as i don't believe in airing somebody's dirty laundry in public without their permission but nobody on bluelight gets banned for 2 years without first accruing 10 points worth of infractions. that's at least 9 chances to stop disrupting the forum, inflaming threads and insulting participants and staff.

people who have repeatedly demonstrated that they simply can not interact with the rest of the community in a civil manner and who can't abide by a simple rule that says you're not allowed to create an alt account while you are banned so that you can continue disrupting the forum will inevitably accumulate infractions which lead to longer and longer temp bans.

this isn't - and is never - a case of an innocent martyr and a nazi staff member. he banned himself.

alasdair
 
^ childish? if a bluelighter called somebody a name and a staff member retaliated by summarily banning them for 2 years, that would certainly be childish (on both sides).

i fail to see how a system which operates incrementally and gives the bluelighter in question 10 chances to adjust their behaviour (over a period of months) before the ban gets to the 2-year stage, could be described as childish, but i respect that perspective differs.

alasdair
 
^ you are, of course, entitled to your opinion but you are also speaking from a place of ignorance. you don't see the insulting posts, the swearing, the vitriolic name-calling, the abusive messages. if you did, your opinion might change.

he wasn't banned summarily after one innocuous comment - there were 10 multiple infractions over a period of months.

maybe he's your friend. maybe you enjoyed the flip-side of his bluelight contribution. that's fair enough. but to suggest that his ban was unfair is, frankly, nonsense.

finally, for what it's worth, there's no political acid-test for bluelight moderators so the "left wing" jab is lost on me. if you would care to expand, we can discuss it.

regards

alasdair
 
Does the points system reset? Say you get 6 infractions in a month but then don't get any for 6 months, does it reset to zero or does it stay the same the next time a mod decides you're being a cunt?
 
Just a thought... is it kind of weird that leaders of this forum are so strictly adhering to certain guidelines, when they can't even adhere to the guidelines of the countries they are in?

I saw nothing wrong with the comments highlighted here (that I saw). It is almost as if someone just got tired of him, for previous things. And he pulled another sensitive string, or something.

In my recent post regarding some stupid mother fucking Taliban-dudes deserving each of nukes up their ass shot out to space boom (this is arguable) shooting a girl who just wanted education/equal opportunity for women, quite a few people came in with anti-muslim comments, and that's not at all what I intended. And I doubt they had infractions for being insensitive/anti-Islam!

He may have been wrong if he said-generally that even moderate Muslims are calling for death to the guy who made the video and blaming America, but he was referring to specific people, who happened to be "moderate" Muslims, as far as I could tell. Although his intention might have been to highlight that, well, as a religious grouping "they" are kind of prone to being scary at this stage (which is kind of true/undeniable that that "place" is and has been unstable for a long time), but he wasn't saying they were all like that, or anything directly. I don't know, really. I don't.

But it's just like here, where I live, most crimes are committed by blacks (as most recent highlighted intentional violence seems to be committed by so-called Muslims). I have issues (struggle, I mean) with "them" (only sometimes, in my mind, never hardly with them- directly, at all, although I have only ever been robbed by black guys since I have lived here- that I have been aware of... but just every day people no) because for one example, they don't let me (a white person) call them "them", yet they can happily have a TV station called "Bounce" that's all about "black people", and is "TV"... "Our way!", separating themselves. I just don't get it. Or- really, I don't get how to navigate with it. All I can do is say, "okay... hopefully some day they won't need to be like this." I don't know what I'm trying to say. It's murky. It's hard to navigate this stuff, when people separate themselves from others by any means. Denying these issues doesn't help anything- perhaps not. There's also an Indiana Black Expo that occurs yearly- here, and there is a lot of time violence/intended death around them. When will those end? When can they accept us all as just people? I don't see an Indiana White Expo... but I guess all you have to do is go out to all of the cornfields around this city. But they aren't calling themselves white. They're German-English-Irish-Scottish-Norwegian etc Americans. And they don't even identify that way a lot of times. I don't even-myself identify as white. I'm me. Pink/creme colored with dark hair with red tints, and brown eyes that are green with yellow, amber, brown... that happens to have stock around Europe, and further down the line, probably around Africa- somewhere.

But I guess as the majority- or once (now receding in ways) majority, "we" can have the luxury of not having to belong... Because we already do. I do understand... it's just a pity that it can be this difficult.



Truth be told "Muslims" as we are provided examples of (and Christians years ago and many now) are rather crazy, by and large. But there are plenty who are not, and who try to navigate- and do very well. Some just follow, though, and that's where it's dangerous. Hell, most religious people are crazy in some sense or another. I mean Jesus told us to gouge our eye out and cut our hand off if it caused us to sin. I hope nobody assigns cause to their eye or hand, though (and stops there). Perhaps he meant something else. But maybe in some fucked up sense, he was right. Better than going to hell, I guess... but how many "Christians" do you see running around with one eye, and one hand?

People suck in ways.

I will shut my mouth now. It's easy to lump it all together, and get screwed up.

I just wish we'd all take the best from the past and move forward.




Oh- I do imagine he, the subject of this thread, was struggling with things as I do, because the examples of "moderates" provided to him were voicing themselves like this, and he wanted to believe otherwise- but these were his examples, which can present themselves awfully strong. Struggling is better than a lot of things. I don't think he deserved a ban like a pothead deserves rape in jail, because a fucking book says so (not necessarily about rape, but jail). But anyways. Again- I haven't seen his history, just the current example.

Now I'll shut it. =D
 
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Just a thought... is it kind of weird that leaders of this forum are so strictly adhering to certain guidelines, when they can't even adhere to the guidelines of the countries they are in?

You can not be serious? LOL.

And the rest of your post is so disjointed and irrelevant that I don't know where to begin...so I'll just leave it at that.
 
I do get pissed off with the leftwing over sensitive attitude on here sometimes. Some people just seem to love finding something that they can pretend insults them.
Political correctness gone mad with some folk on Bluelight.
 
Funny here is that most non mods are calling the sentence harsh... and all mods are just resting in it. I don't think I have ever once seen a mod openly question forum rules :). Hey, that's how it goes...

As for my post I did try to cover a lot, and editing/adding as much may have neglected proper ties, for communicability.

Sorry.

Difficulty sometimes.

But mirroring what alasdairm said, back to my attempt to speak- I must say I am admittedly also ignorant. I never saw nor have I looked back to see these attacks that the subject committed prior to this most recent one (which still- wasn't a great example even for an infraction). Perhaps those prior were deserving of banning. I'd like to see examples pointed out.

Looking through some of the stuff moderators try to keep in order, I don't blame them/can't fairly be hard... but it doesn't make things right.
 
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I do get pissed off with the leftwing over sensitive attitude on here sometimes. Some people just seem to love finding something that they can pretend insults them.
Political correctness gone mad with some folk on Bluelight.

Absolutely. Samhaingrim is a hypocrite and should not be allowed to moderate, IMO. I can't be bothered to flick through his history,but if a non mod has said some of the things he has said infractions would be handed out. I find the double standards particularly irritating,not what he posts.
 
Absolutely. Samhaingrim is a hypocrite and should not be allowed to moderate
thanks for the feedback. you are entitled to your opinion but, for now, the decision about who should and should not be allowed to moderate will continue to be made by the forum staff and the senior staff.
IMO. I can't be bothered to flick through his history
indeed. when somebody says they have an issue but can't be bothered to do anything about it, it's only natural to question the veracity of the claim or the severity of the issue.

as ever, issues with moderators are always examined. you don't have to write a thesis - you can simply click report and write a short summary of your issue. as far as i can tell (i performed a brief search) you've never reported a post in this case.

there is a mechanism but, if you won't use it, again, one has to wonder whether there's any real substance to your complaint.

regards

alasdair
 
He mighta wound up some people & i dont agree with some of his views but he's an ace lad and imo an essential part of eadd. 2 years & not allowed to make an alt? mental, diversity of opinions makes for a great debate & an even more interesting forum

(plus i have no way of replying to him now..)
 
nobody on bluelight racks up 10 infractions for just winding people up. you don't get to break rules, abuse, disrupt and inflame because some people think you're an 'ace lad'. he had at least 9 chances to alter his behaviour and he chose not to. so now he's taking responsibility for his own actions.

if a bluelighters has email allowed, you can email them via their profile.

thanks for your feedback.

alasdair
 
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Really? apart from 1 or 2 occasions where he was just being stupid that vast majority of whats been classed as abuse afaik were just arguments over different views that got a little carried away.. same with 'inflame', some people feel very strongly about their views and others will strongly disagree, of course there's going to be passionate responses involved, free speech and all that.. thats afaik though as you say. I'll stfu now, but the fact is i'm sure many other lurkers & members in eadd especially will miss his contribution to the forum too.
 
This just sounds like someone didn't like him.

Alasdairm... Can you dig up his worst? I just imagine there is a lot to weed through, and you having access, maybe you have this infraction history available. Please enlighten me.

Or can anyone?
 
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