very interested in this skynet you speak of hahaha. i saw it somewhat on the comedown when i "peered through" the darkness when my eyes are closed trying to fall asleep. it was pretty sweet. lots of weird hallucinations... stoked to try that at the peak.
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One of my creative visions involved a cybernetic augmentation that was more than augmentation... but drove/used the human. But I know I'm not understanding it. It was a pretty expansive thought... not as threatening as it may sound. The human was still human, and could make choices... but it was as if they were at least slightly unconscious. This machine perhaps acted in place, using the humans body to do work... press buttons... go about daily things. The human seemed fine. Perhaps doing something else? Like true multitasking.
It was just a glimpse. My dose was not at all high. But it did feel like it influenced this vision (seconds long glimpse).
Visually it appeared to ride on the human's back/back of head.. along the backs of arms, legs, perhaps increasing potentials in ways. Perhaps regulating functions better than one might on its own. Perhaps this human was disabled. Maybe me? Eh. I don't know.
But it felt indistinguishable. The machine was him. Or conscious. Was him. Or conscious... And he was unconscious?
Skynet just made me think of it.
I guess I may give it another shot sometime, but like many have said- best not to abuse this one. And be prepared to have some uncomfortable dreams, if you are at all like me. But then again I did just eat a food I was allergic to- dreaming strangely the night before. So perhaps it was residual. Did not want to test so soon out of such a reaction but it was minor- just annoying.
Anyways.
This was hours after most would consider the duration of main effects regarding first small dose of 9 insufflated, and about 4 after 5 mg oral... so it was mostly me ( of course, but you know ), but it definitely freed some stuff for me.
It was just a glimpse. My dose was not at all high. But it did feel like it influenced this vision (seconds long glimpse).
Visually it appeared to ride on the human's back/back of head.. along the backs of arms, legs, perhaps increasing potentials in ways. Perhaps regulating functions better than one might on its own. Perhaps this human was disabled. Maybe me? Eh. I don't know.
But it felt indistinguishable. The machine was him. Or conscious. Was him. Or conscious... And he was unconscious?
Skynet just made me think of it.
I guess I may give it another shot sometime, but like many have said- best not to abuse this one. And be prepared to have some uncomfortable dreams, if you are at all like me. But then again I did just eat a food I was allergic to- dreaming strangely the night before. So perhaps it was residual. Did not want to test so soon out of such a reaction but it was minor- just annoying.
Anyways.
This was hours after most would consider the duration of main effects regarding first small dose of 9 insufflated, and about 4 after 5 mg oral... so it was mostly me ( of course, but you know ), but it definitely freed some stuff for me.
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with no tolerance... how much insufflated takes you to a hole? or do you not hole with insufflation? i did 30 mgs sublingual then 30 mgs ingested orally at the 30 min mark. just had a good high and decided to clean my room... nothing close to a hole. was wondering if like 60 mg snorted would put me straight into a hole?
ive gone pretty deep with mxe. up to 70 sublingual with some of the very pure stuff and up to 100 with some less pure stuff. i did this with friends so i didnt really have the option of going into a hole with my eyes clothes because i felt the need to entertain because i introduced them to it so i wanted to be a good host. ive been doing mxe for over a year. i only do it at most once a week on rare occasions.
actually i holed once with my eyes open which was insane. it was pretty reckless but i shot up 30 mgs IV and had 10 mgs sublingual at the same time when i was pretty intoxicated on some alcohol. was sitting in the bathroom trying to shit and forgot how my bodily functions worked LOL. it was fun but id rather hole when im at baseline sober.
ive gone pretty deep with mxe. up to 70 sublingual with some of the very pure stuff and up to 100 with some less pure stuff. i did this with friends so i didnt really have the option of going into a hole with my eyes clothes because i felt the need to entertain because i introduced them to it so i wanted to be a good host. ive been doing mxe for over a year. i only do it at most once a week on rare occasions.
actually i holed once with my eyes open which was insane. it was pretty reckless but i shot up 30 mgs IV and had 10 mgs sublingual at the same time when i was pretty intoxicated on some alcohol. was sitting in the bathroom trying to shit and forgot how my bodily functions worked LOL. it was fun but id rather hole when im at baseline sober.
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@DMoTruth:
You should really take it alone if you want to experience your first hole.
You don't want to be disturbed by someone.
I also holed with friends but i've holed many times before on my own, they followed my advices during the sessions and i was sure that they are able to handle the experience.
I loved this community holing btw.
Usually i take a low (25mg) initial dose sublingually.
About an hour later i take 25-30mg plugged.
This already gives me a mild rush of cozyness and the awesome sensations of physical movement, body distortions, stretching, melting etc.
About 30-60 minutes later i plug another dose (25-45mg).
And this is usually the point when i turn the lights off, cover my eyes with a shirt, listen to music and lay still.
And after a while (it usully requires a few more redoses) i enter skynet ;-) /the journey through 3d hd imax space begins.
You should really take it alone if you want to experience your first hole.
You don't want to be disturbed by someone.
I also holed with friends but i've holed many times before on my own, they followed my advices during the sessions and i was sure that they are able to handle the experience.
I loved this community holing btw.
Usually i take a low (25mg) initial dose sublingually.
About an hour later i take 25-30mg plugged.
This already gives me a mild rush of cozyness and the awesome sensations of physical movement, body distortions, stretching, melting etc.
About 30-60 minutes later i plug another dose (25-45mg).
And this is usually the point when i turn the lights off, cover my eyes with a shirt, listen to music and lay still.
And after a while (it usully requires a few more redoses) i enter skynet ;-) /the journey through 3d hd imax space begins.
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Hi All, an update from my perspective. I had a 5 day break and then tried a completely different batch from a different supplier a couple days ago, and it threw me for a loop! I tripped very well on it all day and night. The day time was filled with exploring music, bike riding around town experiencing a series of synchronicities. By the night time I landed exactly where I felt I was supposed to be and proceeded to trip even harder (I probably took more than I thought because this new batch was very clumpy). I experienced incredible CEVs, really beautiful visions, sacred images like the 'eye in the top of the pyramid', materialized out of the noise floor, in addition to the open eye visuals that I am accustomed to, wavy distortions, 'alice in wonderland' type effects etc. I'm enjoying this 'Skynet' archetype that is being discussed here, and I resonate with the concept. I am also now a believer in the different types of MXE that are out there. The new batch is a qualitatively different experience that what I was previously used to. I'm not sure which I prefer, but the effects are different. Cheers guys, let the divine flow, follow that intuition and BE SAFE!
I really miss MXE, since it got banned in the UK. After having caned Ketamine a bit, and also trying DXM more thoroughly I've come to the conclusion that MXE is my favourite dissociative that I've tried thus far. Going to make it my mission to track some down as I do have one or two leads to follow.
So far, nothing has beaten my hole experience with this stuff, actually thinking I was on a pirate ship, complete sway from the tide, audio hallucinations and everything. I love Ketamine but it just doesn't last long enough and lacks some special character that Methoxetamine has.
So far, nothing has beaten my hole experience with this stuff, actually thinking I was on a pirate ship, complete sway from the tide, audio hallucinations and everything. I love Ketamine but it just doesn't last long enough and lacks some special character that Methoxetamine has.
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Sorry to be picky, but your example contains a craftily hidden reverse meaning. Note that you picked ducks. If you had used birds generally, rather than a specific exception, one is obliged to note that most birds do in fact learn to fly from very high places. From treetop nests to sheer cliff faces in the case of eagles. But yes, your exception to the general bird tradition, the duck, does in fact learn to fly from the ground. Or water. Your message has the implied fully revealed meaning, of "are you an eagle or a duck?" when it comes to learning to fly on psychedelics.
All in the name of harm reduction x
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Has anyone here combined K and MXE? I am thinking of trying the combo soon, possibly with some n2o.
Yes, I like to escape reality. I have quit smoking weed a month ago so what's a guy to do?
Yes, I like to escape reality. I have quit smoking weed a month ago so what's a guy to do?
Yes.
Personally, it's not as enjoyable or gratifying as you might imagine. Ketamine makes me feel dumb and sloppy, while MXE makes me feel smart and coordinated, if that makes sense to anybody here. The Ketamine high tends to not mix well with the MXE high, at least in my experience. The overly confusing high that MXE brings about, plus the "Dumbed down" feeling that Ketamine gives just makes me feel like a sloppy confused discoordinated man.
Perhaps I did too much of one or the other. Personally, I'd make my overall K intake to be less than my MXE intake. This way the K doesn't take over. I think just adchieving that stoned relaxed body high that Ketamine produces at low levels is a great addition to an MXE experience.
As for dosages, I don't know your tolerance but for me personally I'd probably do 100mg of MXE shortly followed by 25 maybe 40mg at most of Kitty. Spacing the two doses apart by 15 or 20 minutes. Keep in mind though, I have a high and natural tolerance to them nowadays. You should stagger your MXE doses regardless of tolerance, so just wait till you get to a level you feel comfortable at, then add the Ketamine.
Is this stuff like heroin to anyone else?
I seem to chip at it, had my addiction and beat it... kind of. But I feel better on it and I don't know how to describe it... its just an excellent (feeling) drug with some side effects that are almost minimal.
I seem to chip at it, had my addiction and beat it... kind of. But I feel better on it and I don't know how to describe it... its just an excellent (feeling) drug with some side effects that are almost minimal.
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Realisticly ketamine has been around for a while in medecine... its also on the WHO's list of essential medecines... and pretty uncommon on the street... even for people seeking it specificly and know the difference... why make ot more illegal...
Onandoff
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For me with this drug, the oral bioavailability is significantly wayyyy higher than intranasal. I think I have wasted enough of this mxe bothering with intranasal route. Also, my dissociative tolerance with ketamine is not so forgiving and it takes me quite a bit of amount to have some recreational effects from it. Anyways, is anyone finding that off-white powder is usually the better quality than pure white powder?
Just curious because I haven't had off-white powder type yet and I remember people saying white powder is inferior to off-white.
Just curious because I haven't had off-white powder type yet and I remember people saying white powder is inferior to off-white.
I've been sober for 3 weeks tomorrow night. As many of you know, I went through a lot since March, well over 25 grams just to myself. My question has to do with after effects. I've noticed nothing major, nothing that has affected me in really bad ways. I have however noticed a lot of eye wiggle, my vision wiggling for 2 or 3 seconds randomly at times, even flashes of colors. Sometimes my vision flashes hue's of purple, and other colors but purple sticks out the most.
Also, my perception seems to warp at times, more so than when I abused "Acid" which was more often than not an RC on some tabs or some shitty doses. Sometimes I look at something and it kind of elongates, like a corridor or hallway becoming longer and longer.
The biggest thing I've noticed is the eye wiggles. My vision sometimes wiggles on it's own, it's extremely weird. Anybody experience such strange after effects from such heavy usage?
Also, my perception seems to warp at times, more so than when I abused "Acid" which was more often than not an RC on some tabs or some shitty doses. Sometimes I look at something and it kind of elongates, like a corridor or hallway becoming longer and longer.
The biggest thing I've noticed is the eye wiggles. My vision sometimes wiggles on it's own, it's extremely weird. Anybody experience such strange after effects from such heavy usage?
Sweetshare
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You are not alone. I love MXE. But abuse played a cruel joke with me.
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not from heavy, but from mild, when i stupidly hoofed lines ontop of booze n meph awhile ago id get stuff moving days later, nothing major but it was odd
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The kind of abuse that this chemical has seen is ridiculous. I want to urge people to treat these molecules with respect and dignity. Bold claim #1: there is no place for the recreational use of dissociatives. Bold claim #2: For this reason, there's no excuse for becoming addicted to dissociative drugs. That's a choice you make. I know that statement will be controversial but it's true. By and large, and allowing for individuations of body chemistry, it takes a good deal of regular, habitual use for even the human body to get addicted to even the most physically addicting chemicals that are used as recreational drugs. If you find yourself addicted to dissociatives, I think you need to look at what your goals are with these chemicals. There is no positive, self-affirming goal that is reinforced with regular, recreational use of dissociative drugs. None. If your goal is to negate, then yes, recreational dissociative use is for you; to put it in Nietzsche's terms, those who are addicted to dissociatives will nothingness itself.
Dissociatives should never be used at dissociative dosages outside of the home and these dosages should be administered ONLY in extremely controlled conditions. Disorientation can quickly elevate to such levels that it is impossible to determine, for example, whether it is safe to cross the street, or whether someone has slipped something into one's drink. Perceptions may become too chaotic to differentiate fantasy from reality. This sounds like fun but it's very serious and can become utterly confusing to the subject of the experience, so much so that he may lose all grip on his kinesthesia and inner awareness of his body; messages from the nerves to the brain may lose their boundaries between self and other.
Those well-versed in the Language have always taught us never to use psychedelic chemicals more than 3-4x a year and only in extremely controlled conditions, or under the guidance of a trained shaman. I recall Bob Dylan's lyrics: "Don't say I never warned you / when your train gets lost." Those who know what it means for the train to get lost know that this is nothing to play around with. The knowledge is there, and those of us who believe that there is something positive in these chemicals have to walk the noble path of restraint and moderation. I tell you, it's not worth the risk; treat these with respect and you can do them the rest of your life and get something positive out of them. Treat them as your plaything, and you'll have to carry the burden of regret the rest of your life.
I repeat, there is no excuse for the recreational use of dissociative drugs. Certainly any insights into neurology, consciousness, philosophy, evolutionary biology, or anthropology that can be gained from the exploration, both scientific and psychonautical, of these chemicals is hampered by recreational use -- both because such abuse is what keeps feeding the law-machine, giving it power to deflect motions toward sensible education as the reigning drug policy; and because the rote, mechanic repetition of dosages trivializes their ability to invoke organic becomings. Everyone here knows that education is what we need, not laws, but if you use these chemicals recreationally then frankly you are a part of the problem. Drug users bitch and complain about oppressive laws against them, but then play into the very behavior that these laws promote (i.e., uneducated usage and black market impurities/misrepresentation of the product being sold.)
Dissociatives should never be used at dissociative dosages outside of the home and these dosages should be administered ONLY in extremely controlled conditions. Disorientation can quickly elevate to such levels that it is impossible to determine, for example, whether it is safe to cross the street, or whether someone has slipped something into one's drink. Perceptions may become too chaotic to differentiate fantasy from reality. This sounds like fun but it's very serious and can become utterly confusing to the subject of the experience, so much so that he may lose all grip on his kinesthesia and inner awareness of his body; messages from the nerves to the brain may lose their boundaries between self and other.
Those well-versed in the Language have always taught us never to use psychedelic chemicals more than 3-4x a year and only in extremely controlled conditions, or under the guidance of a trained shaman. I recall Bob Dylan's lyrics: "Don't say I never warned you / when your train gets lost." Those who know what it means for the train to get lost know that this is nothing to play around with. The knowledge is there, and those of us who believe that there is something positive in these chemicals have to walk the noble path of restraint and moderation. I tell you, it's not worth the risk; treat these with respect and you can do them the rest of your life and get something positive out of them. Treat them as your plaything, and you'll have to carry the burden of regret the rest of your life.
I repeat, there is no excuse for the recreational use of dissociative drugs. Certainly any insights into neurology, consciousness, philosophy, evolutionary biology, or anthropology that can be gained from the exploration, both scientific and psychonautical, of these chemicals is hampered by recreational use -- both because such abuse is what keeps feeding the law-machine, giving it power to deflect motions toward sensible education as the reigning drug policy; and because the rote, mechanic repetition of dosages trivializes their ability to invoke organic becomings. Everyone here knows that education is what we need, not laws, but if you use these chemicals recreationally then frankly you are a part of the problem. Drug users bitch and complain about oppressive laws against them, but then play into the very behavior that these laws promote (i.e., uneducated usage and black market impurities/misrepresentation of the product being sold.)
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^ coming onto bluelight and stating that dissociatives are not to be used recreationally is a bold thing to do indeed. I type this as I come down from a cloud of nitrous and MXE, pondering the ketamine in my drawer...
It's not recreational, really, I swear..
I'm like...'evolving' here..
Really though, addiction doesn't automatically go away once one is 'educated'. I consider myself very educated, especially on the topic of psychoactives, yet I still struggle with drug addiction. I have quit a 4 year cannabis habit (hooray!). Just, perhaps, try not to be so condescending
It's not recreational, really, I swear..
I'm like...'evolving' here..
Really though, addiction doesn't automatically go away once one is 'educated'. I consider myself very educated, especially on the topic of psychoactives, yet I still struggle with drug addiction. I have quit a 4 year cannabis habit (hooray!). Just, perhaps, try not to be so condescending
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