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Gibberings CXI: Faster flappin' robin

Mailmonkey - sounds like you're agonising over this already but FWIW your sense of perspective (and sensitivity) is admirable. Beyond admirable.

Hope you come out smelling of roses however it all pans out, I really do.

Amends are always possible but we keep going round the same issues again and again and I've had enough. Even if we make amends theres too much deep-seated resentment for stuff to keep coming out.
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It's a horrible realisation to arrive at isn't it? Especially when you love the person but try a you might you keep reaching this impasse.

Obviously you've got the added responsibility for the welfare of a kid it's clear you love loads, too, not to mention seventeen years' history.

All the best to you, man.
 
SamhainGrim said:
Mailmonkey - sounds like you're agonising over this already but FWIW your sense of perspective (and sensitivity) is admirable. Beyond admirable.

Hope you come out smelling of roses however it all pans out, I really do.




All the best to you, man.
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Thanks Sam..I don't want to come up smelling of Roses, this is the thing, there's nobody to blame.

I'm off work sick today, very fucking rare, but spent the whole night shivering, sweating, throwing up and doing brown wee out of my bum. Wife is on her way home from work to "talk".

I've just told her I don't want to "talk" any more. I told her I'm locking the door so she can't come in and "talk".

Sensitive? Smelling of roses?
 
Eh, been avoiding posting ... don't know what to say really, 'cept <3 n stuff MM. I don't like the thought of you in a rented room away from your boy or 'home' :(
 
Mailmonkey said:
Sensitive? Smelling of roses?
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Sounds more like something a gunnera would do.

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aww mm ( hugs) thats shite!

Perhaps if you remove yourself from the situation for a couple of days and take things a day at a time, you'll both find some other solutions/conclusions to this. I hope so.
 
Could you not discuss taking a break or moving out instead of the circular talk (I get the impression that's what she is coming back to talk to you about)? Practical steps rather than the stuff that's dragging you down? Not letting her in will just ramp up drama and anger on both sides and possibly increase the impact on your kid.

Good luck man.
 
I just stopped by for a quick lurk but had to log on to say I'm glad the suicidal thoughts have stopped Mugz but they'll be back unless you do something to deal with the situation. Suicidal thoughts + stim binges aren't a good combo in anyones book :(

And MM :( , sorry to use the phrase Mugz but its suicide Tuesday remember? Neither of you should act or talk in haste, you're still rebuilding from the weekend.

I've always had serial long term relationships so not really qualified to comment but wouldn't a mediator or counselling help? I've been in that impasse situation before and just walked away, but surely for your kids sake its worth a go. We draw up battle lines and get so firmly entrenched an independant 3rd party can sometimes help us get a new perspective on a stale situation. Temporary breaks have a bad habit of becoming permanent.

You don't sound bored of each other, or as though you've outgrown each other, it would be a shame for everyone to lose out unless you've tried absolutely everything.
 
Mailmonkey said:
I've just told her I don't want to "talk" any more. I told her I'm locking the door so she can't come in and "talk".

Sensitive? Smelling of roses?
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If "talk" means what I think it means (i.e. a shouting match conducted entirely on her terms) then best avoided till you feel you can actually 'talk' for real. If that's at all possible.

By 'smelling of roses' I didn't mean claiming any imaginary 'high ground' or apportioning blame; just that I hope you come out okay somehow. I can see my words are doing little to help matters so I'll take the hint, leave it there and wish you the best of luck.
 
SamhainGrim said:
If "talk" means what I think it means (i.e. a shouting match conducted entirely on her terms) then best avoided till you feel you can actually 'talk' for real. If that's at all possible.

By 'smelling of roses' I didn't mean claiming any imaginary 'high ground' or apportioning blame; just that I hope you come out okay. I can see my words are doing little to help matters, so I'll take the hint, leave it there and wish you the best of luck.
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No Sam, I didn't mean you to feel like that....

and i didn't really, nor would I ever, lock the door on her, I was just trying to convince her to stay at work
 
its probably not the best idea to make far reaching decisions while ill or generally feeling shit



not to sound like mugs or anything but often ive logically come to the decision to kill myself only for a friend to drop round with a spliff + some good music and things end up seeming not so bad



couldnt imagine the mind games after 17yrs though. ten was bad enough for me
 
Human rights. That was the only thing she could change it on.

No, I don't know the interpretation in this case either. I'm just happy for him under the sledgehammer/nut rule. If you'll excuse the pun.

BBC legal correspondent Clive Coleman said it was a dramatic decision - the first time a home secretary had stepped in to block an extradition under the current treaty with the US.

Mayor of London Boris Johnson said: "At last justice and the well-being of Mr McKinnon have prevailed. I have long supported Gary's right to be tried here in the UK.

"To extradite a man diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome to America for trial would have been extraordinarily cruel and inhumane. I applaud the government's stance. If they had approved extradition they'd have been saying that extradition on any grounds was OK. It's not."
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What's going on? I'm agreeing with Boris Johnson. :\
 
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