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Molly: Trial #2 Oct 12 9:00pm - Oct 13 12:21 am

Background:
I met the dealer a rather sketchy way and met up with him after school one day and expected to get 3 grams worth of tablets because we had never done molly ourselves, we never knew there was anything other than tablets. But when he handed me the bag it was rocks. Being like 10 years younger than this guy and not wanting to seem like amateurs and lose a connection so me and my friends didnt say anything about wanting tablets. That night we went and did research and found out they were called "moonrocks". We bought capsules and put all 3 grams in capsules at around 100 mg each.

Lasts Nights Story:
Took the molly around 9 pm. Started feeling mild effects almost immediately. Did not notice much change until about 15 minutes later. I sat up because i was sitting and i find that no matter what im on it doesnt usually hit me until I stand. Stood up and noticed the same head high that I felt the first time around peak. Sat back down and turned up some music. A few minutes after the "peak" feeling was gone. I chilled sitting up instead of laying down for a few minutes. When i did not feel the high coming back i got very mad and texted my friend who I bought the "molly" with. He told me to chill and that maybe i just needed a higher dosage especially since i did the same dosage the day before. My brother then came into the room so i started to talk to him about it. Almost immediately i felt the euphoric feeling (but not the head high) coming back. About 2 hours later i am still feeling the euphoric high and the head high is somewhat here again. I got a sudden burst of energy and decided to work out at midnight. None of this sounds normal when i compare it to the things people write on the forums. Is this a sign of being cut with something else? Has anybody else had a similar experience? Can somebody please help?
 
Bro, you took molly 2 days in a row and expected it to work just as good the second day? It's not weed... tolerance builds insanely fast to MDMA, and doesn't even START to drop until a few months later. You're only supposed to roll once every 3 months, although most people say it's OK to roll once a month.

You can't just roll 2 days in a row and expect to get good effects... MDMA releases serotonin in MASSIVE amounts. After you roll, you're serotonin levels are at very diminished amounts and need time to recover. If you take more, you're just releasing even more serotonin and getting to even lower levels of the neurochemical. Diminished serotonin levels are directly linked to depression, anxiety, personalization and bi-polar tendencies. Don't abuse MDMA.


As for what you took, it could be MDMA... or it could be meth, or methylone, MDPV, mephedrone.. basically, anything that's in bath salts could also be in your "rocks". Look into a Marquis Reagent, it will tell you if your ecstasy is real or fake shit you don't want. They're only $25 from dancesafe.org
 
Folley said:
As for what you took, it could be MDMA... or it could be meth, or methylone, MDPV, mephedrone.. basically, anything that's in bath salts could also be in your "rocks". Look into a Marquis Reagent, it will tell you if your ecstasy is real or fake shit you don't want. They're only $25 from dancesafe.org
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^ What he said. The only thing I can think to add is that dancesafe.org doesn't ship outside of the US anymore so if you are in Canada or Europe try eztest.com.
 
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Oh also i was wondering if its normal for molly in capsules to take about an hour to kick in
 
The only way you'll know is by testing it with a marquis and is well worth the investment for a first timer, especially because it sounds like you're from the states where the quality of MDMA greatly varies. There's no point saying if it is/isn't MDMA because you've already made your mind up about it, and none of us have the same stuff you do.

Other things to note:

Dosage - 100mg may not be enough for you depending on your weight/height/body build/metabolism and experience with the drug. I would take 150mg but not any higher than that considering you appear less experienced with the drug.

Dosing - You should be waiting a minimum of a month between using MDMA. The temptation can be too much sometimes but you are going to end up dissapointed. You're increasing your risk of permenant damage. At the minimum you're gonna feel less satisfied with your nights out on it and are gonna feel like shit for days after using. It IS possible to use MDMA two days in a row and be 'fucked up' but you're increasing the neurotoxic effects by hundreds of percent, not just a little bit. Your brain on serotonin is like your car, you might wana go to the beach but you won't be able to without petrol (serotonin) no matter how much you want the car to get there ;) Your car's engine will fuckup without proper care given to it, much like your brain :)

Working out while on MDMA - Dangerous thing to do IMO. Your body is already losing it's capability to control body temperature whilst on it, so you're increasing the risk of dehydration alot. Alot of people will never find out about an underlying heart condition until they die of it anyway, so I would advise you to not combine two already inherently heart onerous tasks together. More than this, imagine if you're on a treadmill/lifting weights and you rush hard, and fall off/drop the weights?

Capsuled MDMA - The only problem with consuming MDMA this way, although my preferred, is that it's quite unpredictable if you've had a heavy meal beforehand. I've waited an hour and a half and 3 bombs to properly come up at a rave because I had a 3 course steak meal before I went with my family. I stopped at that point (I know my limits) because I just figured they'll digest when they digest, and it's just gonna put me on my arse when they all hit, which they did, at the same time.

The "second come up" - This isn't uncommon; interaction with other people is very important on MDMA. If you're chilling by yourself on MDMA and after an hour or so your mate comes round/you go out/dance or whatever, you'll start feeling the effects more.

I'm not going to present the next bit as fact, just my opinion because I am not a neuroscientist but I'm sure a lot of people will agree. The brain craves communication when you're on MDMA and having somebody to bounce back at you makes you more receptive to the drug. Something as trivial as talking to somebody will also take your mind off the fact you're not as high as you want to be, removing the "barrier" that alot of people have with drugs, which often prolongs the come up or dulls the effects. The "barrier" is literally your mind not allowing the drug to do it's work by making you anxious or whatever. My mates have this problem with acid.

Lastly - MDMA often acts in "waves", especially when the effects begin to tail off. I've felt like I'm coming down only to get slapped in the face by a second wave of rushes, it is common IMO. You need to ensure your crystals are properly crushed before putting them into the capsules too, eating a big crystal means it'll digest slower. I'm interested myself to know the degree that this occurs though.

Combine all of the above and you have your answer, hopefully. Take our advice and above all else don't get on MD again for a while, minimum a month but preferably two or more. It really does make a difference and you'll be thankful for it when you're 35/40 and can still get 'dem eye wigglez'. Don't wait until you're another "I fucked up and now my brain feels like wet cake" poster ;)

Have fun, stay safe !
 
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