Opioids First time using Fentanyl- seeking safest ROA with low opiate tolerance

[DashPurple]

Hey Bluelight, this is my first ever post so please be patient with me !

I have just acquired a Fentanyl patch containing a total of 2.5 mgs of Fent released as 25 mcg per hour for 72 hours. I have done my research and understand that Fent is one of the most potent opioids one can acquire, and i understand that it is extremely dangerous and easy to OD on. Now, i unfortunately have a fairly low opiate tolerance. I do not wish to build a tolerance over time using Oxy or other opioids, but would rather discover a way to take small increments of the Fentanyl to safely achieve a euphoric high. Does it seem rational to cut open the patch, and apply very small amounts of the gel to my tongue, and wait 90 minutes between eating each small dose until i begin to feel the effects, and then stop stacking small doses so I could comfortably and safely ride out the rest of the high?

My friend I acquired the patch from strictly advised me NOT to take the Fent by any ROA until I build a high tolerance, but there must be a way to safely achieve a strong yet not overwhelming high without causing harm when the user has a low opioid tolerance. Any suggestions and insights would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks

 

[Tryptamino]

honestly, you should just build a tolerance. the only way to safely administer any substance that potent is to weigh it out. and that doesnt just apply to hyperpotent substances, i think everybody should know EXACTLY how much they are dosing of any given substance. have you ever mistaken 3 grams of shrooms for 7 grams of shrooms? i did, and i wont eyeball another substance like that ever again.

10mcgs of fentanyl = 10milligrams of morphine, and you can find out what your dose would be based on this.

having said that, you said your patches are in a gel, and you cant really weigh it out unless you get rid of the gel. im sure that somewhere on the internet there is a source on how to extract fentanyl from the patches, as complicated as it may be. My suggestion, since you seem quite adamant to ingest this substance, would be to build up a tolerance. it cant take that long to build a tolerance high enough to tolerate 25mcgs/hour transdermally as the patches are meant to be taken. i know someone who was fond of heroin until recently, and i remember the first time i ever heard of fentanyl, this guy told me that it was like "super dank dope" and then he pulled out a patch, opened it up and plopped the gel right into his mouth.

the problem is, that fentanyl causes unusually high respiratory depression, and one BLer i know used to smoke them, and even with a tolerance, he said he had to force himself to breathe for the entire duration of the high.

i once smoked what i was told was fentanyl, which i bought as heroin ("china white") and i remember that those bags were the ones that made me quit. i couldnt breathe to the point where i thought if i ever smoke heroin again, i will definitely die.
ironically, while weaning off, someone gave me a fentanyl patch to ease the dopesickness. of course it was so low a dose to such a high tolerance (at the timethat no significantly euphoric or recreational effects.

i actually gave a patch to a friend of mine very recently after i had the "fortune" of finding a box full of them, and after receiving advice from a fellow BLer, i told my friend not to take it. he said he gave it away, though... maybe you and i have a mutual friend? lol

anyway PLEASE JUST GET A TOLERANCE OR GET RID OF IT. nobody wants you to die, so why do something rash? you need to build your tolerance, otherwise just pick another opiate. you cant go skydiving without a parachute, and likewise, you CAN NOT (not should not, CANNOT)

and yes, im tweaking, sue me for drug abuse.

 

[Halif]

Just do lots and lots of research if you are intent on using it. There is heaps of information about how to use them on this site and others.

The main thing is to be extremely cautious. Be overly cautious. Be so cautious that it's ridiculous and you laugh at yourself for being so careful. Because it's better to be laughing and alive than hasty and dead.

Think of fentanyl as a weapon. Look up information about the 'Moscow theatre hostage crisis' in 2002. There is some speculation that the chemical agent used may have been a fentanyl compound. Whether or not it's true it's worth keeping in mind, because substances like fentanyl are about as dangerous as you can get - especially for someone without any tolerance.

Take care

 

[DashPurple]

Thank you both for the insight :D

Damn, the moscow theater crisis is really interesting, what a strange substance to use for gassing out gunman..it puts in good light how intense this stuff is though, thank you very much Halif!! I will go about this using extreme caution, the last thing I wanna do is die.

 

[cook]

I think smoking the gel is the safest way to do it (still not safe enough IMO). Starting with the smallest amount of gel possible and working your way up from there if you really want to do it.

All opioids are poisonous when used in excess and fentanyl is no different than the others. Only the potency changes.

 

[benzico]

do not go stking a lump of fent strait in ur mouth with hardly any tollarence that stuff is 100 times the strenth of morthine mg per mg.

 

[macd610]

as a chronic pain patients on 100 micrograms of fentanyl every 2 days, I strongly advise you not to purposely build up a tolerance. If you do this the days of hydrocodone and percocet are gone. it's not as though you have a steady income of patches and if you do manage to get enough drugs to build up a tolerance, this is something that you cannot get rid of easily. Please, be careful

 

[Supeudol]

Please do not fuck with Fentanyl if you have little to no opiate tolerance. It is a very potent opioid, and many people have died from it by having little to no tolerance and sticking patches/gel in their mouths.
Whatever you do, just be careful.

 

[Tryptamino]

I think smoking the gel is the safest way to do it (still not safe enough IMO). Starting with the smallest amount of gel possible and working your way up from there if you really want to do it.

All opioids are poisonous when used in excess and fentanyl is no different than the others. Only the potency changes.

i agree with this to an extent, but the patches do not have evenly distributed fentanyl, which means one tiny piece of gel could be useless, and another piece of the same size could be super packed with fentanyl alkaloids.

I think the only way to safely do it is to extract it, and then acquire a very precise scale that measures in micrograms to weigh it on, and then just use the fentanyl patch converter that you can find with a quick google search and figure out exactly how much you would be able to handle based on other opiates.

I heard that smoking it makes the respiratory depression worse, and from my experience with "china white" (fentanyl powder cut with barbituate sold as heroin) smoked fentanyl is very physically uncomfortable, and the inability to breathe will cause you to have a panic attack, which will in turn worsen your breathing.

start small, regardless of ROA, and titrate up in very small increments.
you can always take more drugs, but you cant un-take the drugs you've already taken.

 

[tricomb]

It's not safe to abuse fentanyl with a "low opiate tolerance." That's how people die.

Seriously, throw the patch in the trash, where no one will hurt themselves if they find it.

 

[diver]

I've taken those 25 fent patches orally numerous times. I have a somewhat high tolerance, and a couple times I was scared that I'd gotten myself into trouble.
Don't cut it!
If you wanted to experiment you might try putting it on your tongue for 30 sec or so, then remove it and wait about 1/2hr.
You'll probably feel something.
I'm not sure that a person with low tolerance should even use one as directed... even the small ones.
Be very careful.

 

[tricomb]

Taking fentanyl orally is extremely inefficient... so for the OPs purposes, maybe that's a good thing.

Honestly though, the intelligent thing to do would be to get rid of the patch and get your DOC instead.

 

[Jktm]

To the OP (that hasn't posted in a day), you say you're trying to not build a high opioid tolerance by using oxycodone or substances of the like, but using fentanyl is going to SKYROCKET your tolerance. Even with intermittent use, it's strong enough to do the trick. You have to think about how strongly your receptors are being agonized, despite the fact you're nowhere near fully saturating them. Just my $0.02.

 

[Coraline]

Don't mess with fentynl. This is one of the lazy resort drugs for pain relief.

It's super potent and deadly.

 

[Leaping Gnome]

I can't tell you anyway safe to use it, but I can tell you about my experience with the patch.

My Mom was on them for at least the last 8-10 years before she passed. Daily for at least 24 years I was taking Percocets, Percodan or Hydrocodone. There was a script left of the 50mg patches and when I ran out of my pills I tried a patch. (I know, stronger than what you have, but remember, I was on pain meds for many years!) It was an hour or two and it scared me because I started feeling it pretty hard. At that point I pulled it off. I did make use of the script over time when I ran out of my pills, but I never left it on more than a few hours at a time.

Anyway, you have been warned by many people here. You’re going to do what you’re going to do. But be warned again, you are playing with your life messing with it!!! Probably the safest way to kill yourself with it is to put it on like it's supposed to be used, but pull it off after 30 minutes.

Leaping Gnome

 

[Toz]

Just use the patch as it is intended to use, 25mcg/h is probably enough to get you high for 2+ days if you just put it on your skin. I usually place them on my upper-arm near my shoulder. I used one 50mcg/h patch this way when I had almost no tolerance at all and I got high as a kite, a bit too high in fact. 25 mcg/h is probably a good dose to start with (keep in mind that the effects takes about 12 hours to reach it's maximum potential).

 

[cook]

It is not safe to put it on without tolerance, not even the 25mcgh version.

 

[diver]

It is not safe to put it on without tolerance, not even the 25mcgh version.

Particularly if you do it before you go to bed for the night.

BTW - OP. It sounds like you're being sensible about this, thankfully... post something plz
Hope you don't give that patch to someone who'd be careless with it

 

[Jktm]

Transdermal BA is actually odd for fentanyl. Often times drugs have a transdermal BA of around 15%, with fentanyl, you get 92%. So figure you get about 23µg fentanyl/hr with a 25µg patch. Multiply that by 100, and you have an equianalgesic dose of oral morphine at 2.3mg, so over the course of 24 hours, that's about equal to 55mg of oral morphine daily.

 

[cook]

Ppl have OD'd on fentanyl even with proper use and tolerance because of faulty patches which release more than the stated dose. How common is that, go figure. I hope I never suffer that kind of pain that requires fentanyl treatment. Recreationally it is propable the worst opioid I can think of from many point of views.