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How High Are You? v. Not High Enough

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Cloudy said:
How is it irresponsible? Yeah one could consider it to be irresponsible to not take medications like benzos everday because of it's physical dependence. IMO, I know my body and how it response to drugs well enough that I can only take them for ~2 weeks, have a 2 week + and few days break, and be fine. No worries about any alteration to my life with this use (I don't consume all of my script in those two weeks, I 'get rid of' say maybe on average 18-23mg of clonazepam or now with alprazolam the same quantity. So I'm not taking ~3-5mg of a high potency benzo everyday in those ~two week (I'm taking pretty close to what is prescribed). I've been doing it every month for over a year, so I don't see this as a problem in any way.

I do take my methadone every day (besides on days where I have heroin, like today with the two dime bags worth, and only use the heroin) because of my dependency to it, and notably for the past few months having the script last the full 30 days. I'd start dealing with WD symptoms after 2 days with out any opioid taken, which do influence my life negatively in certain case. If I dealt with same trouble that I have with opioids/WD when it comes to benzos, I obviously wouldn't be doing this type of habit (or be able to do it). I wouldn't consider doing this if I didn't have the experience and knowledge of drugs, and have the understanding of my body + drugs that I do. I def wouldn't recommend it to most people (I always push people to go to therapy before trying benzos, unless its almost a purely physical problem [I consider my RLS and PLMS in this cat, as therapy couldn't significantly help with these issues]). Benzos should be avoided as much as possible for problems that have the potential to last 30+ days as to help prevent as many individuals from becoming dependent, and its quite silly to take a drug for mental problems that will have an elevated level of anxiety from where the level that caused them to start the benzos in the first place, once they discontinue their use (even with a well designed taper - not all tapers work quite the way they desired, and they sadly will have to deal with the negative modifcations of GABAa nerve transmission from daily benzodiazepine use.
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^I meant it's irresponsible on behalf of the doc. If he knows you should've run out by now it's irresponsible not helping you get your refill in time.
Don't know if he knows you're not physically dependant though, if he does it's not as bad.

Ofcourse it still sucks. :D

And yes, I agree that benzos should be avoided for obvious reasons. Good thing my friends all witnessed my downfall due to benzos. It made them alot more aware of the possible dangers so they hardly indulge, if at all. That's about the only good thing that came from my heavy benzo addiction.
 
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Ah, I see what you are saying. Well, I probably should have some clonazepam still left because I had half a month worth of alprazolam when I switched from clonazepam to alprazolam. However this is not the case. I would be refilling the clonazepam like today or yesterday if I continued using that as my drug of choice for PLMS. They probably are aware of that and did want to make sure I didn't have any refills on it, which is pretty responsible for a doc to do, even if the patient would love to use the refills every month along with the new scripts (I continued using gabapentin after my doc took me off it when I started a new drug. I had like 5 refills on it, and gabapentin is super handy for opioid WDs, social anxiety, mood stabilization, etc. I know its not scheduled so who cares that I keep using it (even if this is a silly way to look at this).

Benzos are way to addictive and have the super annoying receptor modification like I said earlier, that prescribing them to people who aren't aware of the potential downfalls of the drug, really need to be sat down to discuss the problems that benzos have to make sure this is a route even attempting to try. I do really like the minimal side-effects, or intensity of side-effects for daily dosing (both positive or negative), and hate that they are soiled by their well known dependency and addiction. If it wasn't for those problems and the cognitive impairment, they could be a pretty perfect drug.
 
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Cloudy said:
Ah, I see what you are saying. Well, I probably should have some clonazepam still left because I had half a month worth of alprazolam when I switched from clonazepam to alprazolam. However this is not the case. I would be refilling the clonazepam like today or yesterday if I continued using that as my drug of choice for PLMS. They probably are aware of that and did want to make sure I didn't have any refills on it, which is pretty responsible for a doc to do, even if the patient would love to use the refills every month along with the new scripts (I continued using gabapentin after my doc took me off it when I started a new drug. I had like 5 refills on it, and gabapentin is super handy for opioid WDs, social anxiety, mood stabilization, etc. I know its not scheduled so who cares that I keep using it (even if this is a silly way to look at this).

Benzos are way to addictive and have the super annoying receptor modification like I said earlier, that prescribing them to people who aren't aware of the potential downfalls of the drug, really need to be sat down to discuss the problems that benzos have to make sure this is a route even attempting to try. I do really like the minimal side-effects, or intensity of side-effects for daily dosing (both positive or negative), and hate that they are soiled by their well known dependency and addiction. If it wasn't for those problems and the cognitive impairment, they could be a pretty perfect drug.
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I have not noticed any cognitive impairment from the 6 years or so of daily benzo use Ive had going now. I have been on a pretty high dose of clonazepam as well as i have been prescribed 6mg`s since 2007 though i usually only take 4mg`s of clonazepam. I only take 6mg`s if i really need it because I'm having alot of anxiety, am manic or am in opiate withdrawal.

I just had a 18mg shot of dilaudid so i am feeling rather good right now =D . Too bad that rush will last only as long as it takes me to smoke a cigarette :|
 
i have a ton of material to study for my exam tomorrow, and i really shouldn't be getting high, but i'm doing so anyway because emotionally i feel like shit.

spliffs away!
 
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I have not noticed any cognitive impairment from the 6 years or so of daily benzo use Ive had going now. I have been on a pretty high dose of clonazepam as well as i have been prescribed 6mg`s since 2007 though i usually only take 4mg`s of clonazepam. I only take 6mg`s if i really need it because I'm having alot of anxiety, am manic or am in opiate withdrawal.|
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how old are you? Just wondering because benzos are usually prescribed to older people.
 
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240mg dxm (delsym)
about to smoke some bowls of good weed

watching football
 
i'm farked.

had a further 200mg morphine a little while back with a top up of diazepam just before i smashed down beef stroganoff for lunch.

i'll be jumpin into bed for a nap pretty soon i think.

looks like i'll be spending the next few days on codeine to let my tolerance drop down a little.
 
Passed out from nodding so hard a few hours back after doing a bunch of dope. It's been several days and I still have half of my .7 left...pretty strong shit.
 
ive done a few bumps/mini lines of ice over the past 5 hours, and im not sure if i should just keep redosing until sometime tomorrow or to save it for another time. theres a lot of ice, so redosing is tempting because i wouldnt run out until saturday afternoon, but i know that i dont enjoy tweaking when i havent slept. i shouldve saved some, or even all of the oxy from last night for this... well, whatever. i guess melatonin and dramamine (and a zillion other herbs and supplements) will just have to work tonight.
 
Hi BigFan,
What do you mean you don't like tweaking when you haven't slept? Do you do bumps during the day and sleep every night?
just wonderin...
You don't enjoy the binge experience? Many people don't, I'm sure. (not one of them.)
 
ugly said:
Hi BigFan,
What do you mean you don't like tweaking when you haven't slept? Do you do bumps during the day and sleep every night?
just wonderin...
You don't enjoy the binge experience? Many people don't, I'm sure. (not one of them.)
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i dont do meth everyday, and i do enjoy the binge experience, but with meth, i seem to get really antisocial and introverted, especially if i'm alone in the dark all night (which i almost always am when i crash from meth), and rigt now im wishing i could eat, but thats not currently possible, and i know that if i redose and keep binging, tomorrow when i do crash, ill be ten times hungrier and ten times more anxious, and ill lose even more sleep and then just feel more shit than i wouldve.

i took small doses today, initially intending to just do one line, but it never stops there, as i shouldve anticipated, so i did more throughout the night, and here i am, exactly were i tried not to be. after downing a cocktail of supplements and weak otc downers, im starting to feel tired, and im hoping that it leads to sleep. knowing how i get with stimulants, its very possible that i will give in to the insomnia and redose, and then tomorrow will be much less fun than i had planned, especially since i have to speak to family members.

to redose or not to redose, that is the question
 
Ok i did a small amount of this here firesmack and i'm crazy euphoriated.

That's on top of 25mg hydroxyzine and a half pill of chlorprothixene, forgot which dosage. :-)
 
Opiates, wow, I'm new to hydroxyzine. How do you feel about it?

Big Fan I hope you get some sleep. I'm doing three or four hours tonight, but I want to sleep soundly and long Friday night, because I'm staying up all night Saturday night.

I'm going to be down by the harbor in San Pedro. I'm going to have a blast.
 
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