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Dosing two first time rollers...

^ I know but chesh the higher the dose the more neurotoxicity, = more at risk for negative mdma effects. You can't see inside her brain.
 
Yeah but the main concern here is having a good first time. I'm not saying he should give them .25 each, but I'm saying that giving them between 100mg and 150mg isn't going to give them a bad time.
 
i would stick with the 100 mg mark....it seems to be great for most ppl so why not some hot girls??
 
Hmm... I think I'll give them just 100mg, maybe slightly less.

I wouldn't even be hesitating on letting them decide if this were just like, hanging out or something. But this is somewhere, in which if it appears you CANNOT hold your shit, you're gonna get in some trouble.
 
This thread has actually been very helpful to me. Two friends and I are planning on rolling in just over a month, one is a first timer and the other has done it twice with me. Thinking about giving my first time friend around 100mg and I'm going to let my other friend decide on her own dose as long as it doesn't seem too high. And yes it's reagent tested MDxx and I even did an acetone wash to make sure I got as many adulterants out of it as I could.

Happy and safe rolling. :)
 
I still think 120mg would be fine to give to a first timer, and probably give them a slightly better time than 100mg.
 
Chesh said:
I still think 120mg would be fine to give to a first timer, and probably give them a slightly better time than 100mg.
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You don't think it would be too much? I just don't want to overwhelm him seeing how he rarely smokes marijuana and he drinks fairly regularly. My main concern is that he is allergic to pot, so I don't want him diving into a new drug with a decent sized dose, I know it's extremely unlikely that he would have a reaction to MDxx I'm more concerned about anxiety. Anyways, let me know what you think, all opinions are welcome! :)
 
Darksidesam said:
Not if they are an anxious person or maybe a heavy weed smoker though.
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As long as you explain that the comeup may be unpleasant, and keep them company if they have any anxiety during the comeup they're going to be fine when they're up.

With a low dose, an anxious person might end up having a worse time because they'll start coming up, and they'll feel a bit different or odd, but they won't have enough serotonin flooding their system to completely override all anxiety like you get with a proper dose of MDMA. That's basically what happened to me when I got underdosed for my first time a couple of years ago (don't count it as my first time because it was shit).
 
Chesh said:
As long as you explain that the comeup may be unpleasant, and keep them company if they have any anxiety during the comeup they're going to be fine when they're up.

With a low dose, an anxious person might end up having a worse time because they'll start coming up, and they'll feel a bit different or odd, but they won't have enough serotonin flooding their system to completely override all anxiety like you get with a proper dose of MDMA.
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That is a valid point, I think what I might do is let him decide then. If he is willing to try the full 120mg I'll let him and just explain to him that the come up might be more intense than if he were to just stick with 100mg.

And my other friend.. well she really wants to try re-dosing so I told her to stay below 150mg total dose for the night, would 100mg followed with another 50mg roughly 60 minutes in be good? I normally don't re-dose because I want to avoid as much neurotoxicity as possible, but the last time I did about 70-90 mg initially followed but another 50-70mg 30 minutes later and that treated me fine. (wish I knew the exact doses, was at a festival and my scale was in the tent 20 minutes away)
 
Try not to scare him off it, a comeup from 120mg isn't going to be too bad. First time I did MD I did 120mg and on the comeup I was worried because I started rushing and I was really warm, so I went outside for some fresh air looked at the street lights and felt amazing. If someone had told me "mate you might feel a bit weird, overwhelmed, warm, anxious and/or unpleasant on the comeup but it'll be fine after that" then I would have had literally no problems.

As long as you're a good mate and you're there for them it will be fine I guarantee you. When my mate was coming up for the first time ever on Friday he said to me "I feel a bit weird" and I just said "Yeah happens to me when I come up but as soon as you're up mate you'll feel fucking amazing so just be patient and don't worry". Needless to say he had a sick night 10 minutes later.
 
Sounds good, I'll let him decide and just explain to him the potential differences for the come up and over-all high. Thanks for the recommendations for dosing!

Happy and safe rolling!
 
110-125mg

You want their first roll to be a great fucking roll. Not a half assed experienced.
 
i had a lady friend whom i gave VERY pure mdma to for the first time, shes about 5 7", 120 pounds...i dosed her at 120 mgs. she was so high to the point of rolling on the floor taking off her clothes. not energy dancey, but very floored cuddley happy europhia. she told me it was the best feeling she ever experienced in her life. that dose was very strong and overwhelming, but in the BEST of ways. but this was in the comfort of my house. if your going to a rave you do not want to be that type of high there. they will feel floored and want to sit down on the speaker all night with jello legs. for a first timer at a rave a dose of 75-90 would be best, they will get high but not too high to the point off rolling on the floor cuddling the chairr. if you were in your home with them a 120 dose would be an experience and a half. but for a rave , 90 would be best. cheers.
 
and keep them company if they have any anxiety during the comeup they're going to be fine when they're up.
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Most important thing to note there , coming up hard alone is scary as fuck lol
 
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