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RoyMunson

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I'm sitting here bored out of my mind, wife is out, friends are all pre-occupied with various family stuff, and I have some defqons sitting here. Part of my thinks why not it'll pass the time and the other half thinks that's pretty pathetic.

Do you guys ever do drugs on your own?
 
i love to smoke weed by myself, but i would rather wait till my s/o was home with me before i dropped a roll. what about something like shrooms or mxe?
 
Never tried those, I don't trust myself not to think of a massive scary monster if I tried something proper hallucenagenic.
 
RoyMunson said:
Never tried those, I don't trust myself not to think of a massive scary monster if I tried something proper hallucenagenic.
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I hate the stigma around bad trips. They are really almost non-existent... it's only going to happen if you will it to happen, and that's pretty damn fucking likely when all you know about psychedelics is that they can give you a bad trip.



In reality, you might think of a scary monster, then you come to terms with the unreality of the monster, and begin to dissect the evilness away until you are left with a lonely little kid inside that monster who just wants out.. then you realize the monster was you all along, and that the "scariness" was just the evil and misdirection that makes up your life...



um... that was a bit off topic. But no, you should NEVER EVER EVER roll or take drugs just for the hell of it (especially not psychedelics :\ that might be the only thing that's caused a bad trip for me. Taking them just for the fun of it)

Maybe get drunk and smoke some weed, but when you can only roll once every 3 months, you don't waste that shit.
 
Folley said:
I hate the stigma around bad trips. They are really almost non-existent... it's only going to happen if you will it to happen, and that's pretty damn fucking likely when all you know about psychedelics is that they can give you a bad trip.



In reality, you might think of a scary monster, then you come to terms with the unreality of the monster, and begin to dissect the evilness away until you are left with a lonely little kid inside that monster who just wants out.. then you realize the monster was you all along, and that the "scariness" was just the evil and misdirection that makes up your life...



um... that was a bit off topic. But no, you should NEVER EVER EVER roll or take drugs just for the hell of it (especially not psychedelics :\ that might be the only thing that's caused a bad trip for me. Taking them just for the fun of it)

Maybe get drunk and smoke some weed, but when you can only roll once every 3 months, you don't waste that shit.
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I get the impression that it would be best to do pyschs not on your own and with an emergency stash of downers to be honest.

Ok, saving these beans for another day. Sleepy now anyway :) Score 1 for bluelight good advice :)

Edit: By the way that was a really good piece of advice about the "monster". I'm totally ignorant about all that.
 
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My best trips have always been alone, other people can just distract you from what you're really supposed to be learning.. but I always take psychedelics to try and learn and grow in my spirituality. Your first trip should probably be with a close friend, but it's certainly not absolutely necessary

Benzos are good to keep on hand, they can give you a sense of security.. but I would have to implore that you don't take them even if you think you're going to have a bad trip. Any good trip should make you worry for about 5 minutes that you took too much lol... but it's the sense of relief that comes out of handling that and gaining control over the situation that makes psychedelics so perfect for self enlightenment and teachings.. taking benzos to counteract that will just leave you feeling weird, and you'll probably wish you never took them and just worked it out on your own... that's where the real breakthroughs come from!


Again.. this is pretty damn off topic lol :! but I'd recommend 2C-B for a start. It's a light, clear headed psych that almost no one can have a bad trip on. It's very similar to MDMA, and would be the perfect introduction to the world of colors and patterns
 
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(For Tambo) UTFSE already! OP there are several threads around the section about rolling / using MDMA alone. I personally love the experience and have used MDMA alone a number of times. Yes it is completely different to rolling /using in clubs with friends etc but it can be just as enjoyable! It really depends what you want from the experience! Set up a play list, get some paper and paints out, get some old photos out etc

Just be ready for your wifey returns and your laying on the carpet rubbing yourself to trance (floorgasm).
 
Folley said:
I hate the stigma around bad trips. They are really almost non-existent... it's only going to happen if you will it to happen, and that's pretty damn fucking likely when all you know about psychedelics is that they can give you a bad trip.



In reality, you might think of a scary monster, then you come to terms with the unreality of the monster, and begin to dissect the evilness away until you are left with a lonely little kid inside that monster who just wants out.. then you realize the monster was you all along, and that the "scariness" was just the evil and misdirection that makes up your life...



um... that was a bit off topic. But no, you should NEVER EVER EVER roll or take drugs just for the hell of it (especially not psychedelics :\ that might be the only thing that's caused a bad trip for me. Taking them just for the fun of it)

Maybe get drunk and smoke some weed, but when you can only roll once every 3 months, you don't waste that shit.
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+1 about the stigma of bad trips and your explaination.

+1 for suggesting he doesn't take drugs for the hell of it, and especially not psychedelics. So many uncomfortable nights because I was convinced acid would always make things funner... Ahhh memories.

And yeah man MDMA is best done with your best friends, or a significant other in my opinion. Save that shiiiyit.
 
I should have said in the right set and setting, but still.

I think if you'll look back, all your bad trips were your own fault. At least that's how it is with me... Taking drugs in places you shouldn't be, or taking too much... psychedelics have a way of fucking you over if you have an inflated ego, but when you treat them with respect that kind of thing never happens... in my experience at least.


and I've had some horrible trips.. one requiring hospitalization. But it was my own damn fault every time, I knew I shouldn't have taken it, but I did it anyways.
 
The point being - bad trips are a very real risk, and should be considered in the decision making process. I would not go so far as to call them 'nearly non-existent'.
 
Yeah, I guess I can't deny that. I mean, I wouldn't take a huge dose of LSD on Halloween and go roaming the streets... I would take in account the night that it is and take a lower dose than usual most likely


But in the right set and setting... the chances of a bad trip are (usually) very low. I mean, do you think anyone ever had a bad trip chilling with Shulgin? Hell no!

and just BTW... my best trip EVER started out as an extremely discomforting and scary one... but working through the fear is what made it such an amazing trip! What started out as 3 hours of extreme body load and me *almost* getting my parents to take me to the ER for benzos led to a ++++ that changed my life.... that's why I don't recommend you take benzos, unless you start seeing seizure like symptoms
 
Actually id say my quality of life / social life deteriorated when i started doing drugs alone.

Getting high on weed/ codeine/ ketamine/ valium became like a second option to me. It werent good.

It still is sadly enough but i do socialise more, i find it difficult to though because i dont drink and cant really smoke anything now only vaporize it.

I'd say try and stick with your crowd but then again, then you could end up going the other end of the spectrum and only drug socializing.
 
Folley said:
In reality, you might think of a scary monster, then you come to terms with the unreality of the monster, and begin to dissect the evilness away until you are left with a lonely little kid inside that monster who just wants out.. then you realize the monster was you all along, and that the "scariness" was just the evil and misdirection that makes up your life...
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haha reading this when high was brilliant, and pretty true.

when i did 2c-b the ceiling fan was bending towards me in an evil way, and at first i was scared but then i realised that's what the evil bendy ceiling fan wants and now that i knew that i had nothing to be scared of.
 
ive done all the drugs ive done-alone at somepoint or another. i abused mdma-2cb in my room alone for a couple months.
ive never had a scary trip alone. or felt evil in my drugs, i felt that 2c-b led me to reading/understanding aztek writing

but having a supply of drugs and having the free time to do them alone is something i cant really promote. i learned a hell of alot about myself though
 
Doing drugs on your own can be great for insight, for MDMA I would think you could come with some fun or therapeutic things to do on your own but most people prefer other people to be around as well, for me I almost would insist making it a perfect setting as waiting 3 months can be excruciating in my opinion and not doing it just because I'm bored. As far as psychedelics go I thought I was above bad trips but after a series of poor choices I had a very bad trip on LSD at one point and realized psychedelics really are not something to be taken lightly but it has a lot to do with frame of mind, what you are doing, where you are and although this wouldn't apply in this case who you are with.
 
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