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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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Does anyone else find that Kratom makes them lay turds the size of a baby's arm, once a day? You know,so big you have to poke it with a stick to get it round the u-bend?
 
^its an opiate.. So naturally it's Gona stop u up more. But it's also a plant.. So it's gotta b rich in fiber. Interesting lol. I was wondering tho, is there anything u can take w/ kratom to make it smell more like hyrdrocodone? Don't get me wrong i love & respect this plant. But the subtleness bothers me. It's missing something..
 
I used to think kratom was too subtle myself, I just needed to find to right vendor with the right strain. For me its Green Malay, then Maeng da (would be #1, but its expensive) I like the stimulating strains better. And although most vendors have green malay, MD, bali, indo, ect. They are rarely the same alkaloid profile (from the same tree/batch) so your effects differ between vendors in potency and alkaloid profile. Once you find your sweet spot and a routine to get the most out of it, you might prefer it to hydro, like I do now. Now kratom has a much cleaner and more natural feel to it (less groggy then traditional opiates). Dont get me wrong I would still love to take a moderate dose of hydro, but as a maintenance drug for mood, work, sleep, energy, social anxiety, and general opiate cravings - its a much better substance IMO but to each their own.
 
Man I'm jealous. I am Gona continue my 'research' tho. Hopefully I can find a good enough vendor. I always had the sneaking suspcion that my current vendor fills it w/ dirt or something. But then i switched to a diff one that a lot of bluelighters & opiophiles recommended. Got this huge sample pack w/ a lot of diff strains including maeng da (which honest to god doesn't seem to work as well for me then others, almost little to no effect compared to Bali, weird huh) but I found none of them had as good of an aroma as the original vendor. I will say that I feel as if anyone who drinks coffee in the morning before work as opposed to kratom is seriously misinformed. W/ kratom, im the best worker in the building & won't get tired for my entire 8 hr shift! I love it.
 
silentcowboy said:
I used to think kratom was too subtle myself, I just needed to find to right vendor with the right strain. For me its Green Malay, then Maeng da (would be #1, but its expensive) I like the stimulating strains better. And although most vendors have green malay, MD, bali, indo, ect. They are rarely the same alkaloid profile (from the same tree/batch) so your effects differ between vendors in potency and alkaloid profile. Once you find your sweet spot and a routine to get the most out of it, you might prefer it to hydro, like I do now. Now kratom has a much cleaner and more natural feel to it (less groggy then traditional opiates). Dont get me wrong I would still love to take a moderate dose of hydro, but as a maintenance drug for mood, work, sleep, energy, social anxiety, and general opiate cravings - its a much better substance IMO but to each their own.
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Couldn't agree more tho silentcowboy. Kratom if anything is a major life enhancer.
 
:) Yeah, for me its a miracle plant, I dont fein for it like I did opiates, which in reality, makes a HUGE difference. Before I couldnt sleep if I had a stash of OC, I was too excited to get up in the morning and do them. With kratom I take the same amount everyday, and never run out.
 
Haha that's do weird dude me too.. If I got hydro I can't wait to wake up to it w/ an empty stomach & then as soon as that great feeling goes away I just end up takin more even tho I try to control myself. & I take so much when I initially get my script that I dont have enough to last me until my next one. Needless to say I end up feeling like a fiend. But like u said w/ kratom I never feel that. I never skip meals cause I want my stomach to b completely empty when I take my dose like i do w/ hydro. Question tho, do u ever redose yr kratom?
 
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Haha that's do weird dude me too.. If I got hydro I can't wait to wake up to it w/ an empty stomach & then as soon as that great feeling goes away I just end up takin more even tho I try to control myself. & I take so much when I initially get my script that I dont have enough to last me until my next one. Needless to say I end up feeling like a fiend. But like u said w/ kratom I never feel that. I never skip meals cause I want my stomach to b completely empty when I take my dose like i do w/ hydro. Question tho, do u ever redose yr kratom?
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I do redose my kratom, I know that I shouldnt, but I am in the process of tapering. I normally take 4g of Green malay 4-5 a day, although I did buy some stem and vein powder recently so my alkaloid intake has gone down but my leaf intake has stayed about the same ~5g. I took a dose this morning of 4g of Green Malay (not stem and vein) and it hit pretty hard. When I get my next order of GM on tuesday im going to try 2.5g doses and see how that goes.

But kratom always hits best first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, I always eat about 15 minutes after my dose as it seems to help with consistent results.
 
FadedZombie said:
Haha that's do weird dude me too.. If I got hydro I can't wait to wake up to it w/ an empty stomach & then as soon as that great feeling goes away I just end up takin more even tho I try to control myself. & I take so much when I initially get my script that I dont have enough to last me until my next one. Needless to say I end up feeling like a fiend. But like u said w/ kratom I never feel that. I never skip meals cause I want my stomach to b completely empty when I take my dose like i do w/ hydro. Question tho, do u ever redose yr kratom?
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It depends... when all i did was kratom i only dosed once for a whole dayy, tried redosing a couple times but didnt like the results and found it more pleasurable mot to do so

However now i have a iv heroin habit amd use ot for withdrawals which its a life saver for... usimg it for that i have to redpse though and eculause it only lasts 4-10 hours before im starting to withdraw pretty bad again
 
I agree, the Green Malay is the best of them. When 5-8 gr of this hits it's swimmy, dizzy and really quite disorienting. Had some while I was watching Jezza. Thought I must have slipped sideways into a parallel universe for a while there.
 
I'd just like to add my experience so far. I have just recieved 4 grams of a 15x labeled extract that has produced excellent effects. I won't bother mentioning anything else in detail about it other than it is supposedly not the generic, typical 15x that is commonplace. But, what do I know, I am new to the Kratom scene so take that info with a boulder sized grain of salt. Anyway, I dumped in a gram of extract into my espresso cup, added hot but not boiling water and 2 small scoops full of DaVinci Hazelnut syrup. The tea has a very familiar taste to it that I can't put my finger on. I actually like the taste where others say they don't care for it. After maybe 45 minutes I start feeling a very familiar opioid-like feeling. It's been 3 hours and I still feel very good with an added pep like taking around 5mg of Ritalin orally. I'm very pleased with this stuff. I'm curious about something though. I am also on Methadone (20mg daily MMT) and wonder if it potentiates the effect. I am usually starting to feel a total drag about 8 hours after I dose but the Kratom has totally curbed that feeling. I am really surprised with this stuff. The only thing I am kinda not so happy about is I am feeling a somewhat intense desire to go and make another cup of tea. :-/ I have pretty stron self control issues as I have ADHD and am prone to addictive activities like gambling as well as doing drugs.
 
^ Ill try to help you out the best I cant... First of all I strongly recommend staying away from the extracts, especially because you talk about being prone to addictive things, powdered leaf works great for a lot of people here, and its becoming a general consensus that extracts lead to trouble. I am interested to hear about your experience with Methadone, I always wondered if it would have a blockade effect on kratom, so Im not sure if it potentates it or not, but kratom has a few different active alkaloids, which btw, different strains have different alkaloid profiles, and each strain feels different. Some are just slightly different in effects but some strains can be primarily sedative, while others very stimulating, and some a mix of both... You've just got to find your preference in effects. If I were you I would try some Red Veins, as IME, are normally more sedative and last longer (less redosing). I prefer Green Veins myself, their mostly stimulating and come on fast, and strong, but dont last very long.
 
I am wondering if anyone knows if there are harmful toxins in gold reserve kratom extract? Is it safer to use crushed leaf or powder? I've never really tried any other except Bali which did absolutely nothing for me. I'm asking because I have been experiencing symptoms that mimic autoimmune disorder /nerve damage. I pray it is not from kratom use but starting to get anxious about it. Any thoughts?
 
ive noticed adding too much heat to the tea reduces effects significantly. boiling tea cut the effects down by a magnitude of about 4 to 8, for myself.

i really want to find a way to bring the intake mass down...

perhaps an extraction, but it would take lots of work...
 
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