Anyone seen methamphetamine in the UK/Europe?

[rockstar 69]

It's all smokable. It's the residue is the give away.

 

[Tryptamite]

crystal meth is in south dublin and kildare for 25e a g

This poster has proved time and time again to know no facts and regurgitate misinformati0on as he or she pleases. I am not sure whether this is a deliberate troll or just somebody with very little cop on.

Eireann The Sun is not a valid source of fact. They print all the bullshit anyone could want and more. No need for you to repeat it.

 

[neilios]

Would have to disagree with some comments here - probably largely in part to tolerance but ask any regular meth smoker and they would likely say smoking is more 'mellow', certainly than any other method of ingestion.

Not sure how much meth you have done all up rockstar but 50mg dose is high for pure stuff. Less than 25mgs of good stuff will last in the pipe for a while...

I, and other people I have spoken with certainly find smoked meth is not a 'get up and do stuff' rush. Also it seems to give rise to more OCD tendencies than other stim's in my experience, this can be rather unsettling.

 

[rockstar 69]

My technique was shit with smoking it. I started about 20mg but by the last run I'd done 50mg. You could have gone further. A guy I know did .2 in a lightbulb.

It's less 'get up and do stuff' than normal speed is yeah, but there's more going on in the head rush wise.

 

[headfuck123]

I got some free 5mg dextroamphetamine from a friend on monday. Im not a huge fan of speed usually (well the street shite iv had before) but these seem nice. Anymore than 3 in a day seems to leave me with too much residual stim which i dont enjoy after iv finished all the tasks i can think of lol. They seem to give a nice soubtle mildly euphoric push to keep you busy but i think If i had more than a couple i would get more sketchy and not get things done. This is with no tolerance by the way.

 

[neilios]

^^^ @rockstar .2?? Sacrilege - a lot of it down to technique, an art form to get right... A lifetime to perfect...

Light bulb always going to be trickier than a glass pipe - even with glass pipe so many factors such as thickness of glass, length of stem, type of heat... Lol.

Yeah to me less of a 'body rush', mentally stimulating of course... Someone smoked with recently who was first timer likened it to coke (in terms of just sitting round smoking and having lots of chatter, less egotistical than coke though), pity about the duration eh

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

^^^ @rockstar .2?? Sacrilege - a lot of it down to technique, an art form to get right... A lifetime to perfect...

This.

You have no idea how long 50mg can last Mr Rockstar.

Crystal meth is all about ROA and technique. When you perfect this....that's when it gets dangerous/reliant on self-control.

 

[backroll]

i find running it on foil a la heroin is the best for me. And yes it does give you a rush. A bloody good one, although that rush changes with usage. No shit

 

[dee_dee]

I dont no how much it was but not alot.

I know the smallest and most common weight its sold in in London is 250mgs, and ive been told thats alot for recreational usage.

Something that friends would share over a whole weekend I would imagine.

We was sitting around and chatting when i tried it, it didnt make me feel as hot as coke would, it felt more cleaner and level headed than that.

Coke burning stinks, Tina burning on first instance to the untrained nose i would say doesnt smell at all, its virtually non existant and a good one to hide no doubt without anyone realising, there was definitley a smell there though, just came and went in a flash, slightly sweet, slightly metallic/solvent maybe. Hard to put my finger on how to describe it.

I still think its utter overhyped bollocks...

 

[neilios]

Running on foil???! Seriously sounds like would be impossible not to waste unless your using a fuck off big funnel. even then wasteful, generally continues to smoke even after heating before recrystalising - with good meth you blow clouds..... A glass pipe seems the only logical way.. You can also put a stopper over between puffs to keep that precious smoke in

And of course that rush fades with tolerance but I have never got a big rush with smoking; IV yes smoking no...

20mg smoked properly would give you a lot of puffs....

Sorry but the foil thing makes my skin crawl a bit with 'ice' mites, thinking about all that wastage (lol, rant over, sure you have your technique down )

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

I dont no how much it was but not alot.

I know the smallest and most common weight its sold in in London is 250mgs, and ive been told thats alot for recreational usage.

Something that friends would share over a whole weekend I would imagine.

We was sitting around and chatting when i tried it, it didnt make me feel as hot as coke would, it felt more cleaner and level headed than that.

Coke burning stinks, Tina burning on first instance to the untrained nose i would say doesnt smell at all, its virtually non existant and a good one to hide no doubt without anyone realising, there was definitley a smell there though, just came and went in a flash, slightly sweet, slightly metallic/solvent maybe. Hard to put my finger on how to describe it.

I still think its utter overhyped bollocks...

Most addictive drugs are misleading in their shitness before you get a taste for them. Like smoking.

 

[neilios]

^^^ fairly valid point, meth isn't that great IMHO but fucking addictive. Paradoxical eh?

 

[dee_dee]

Very aware of that.

It really annoys me, the goverment is playing right into these peoples hands.

Ban the legal highs, people will still want to take something.

Alot of dealers in London imo dont want to fuck about with grams of k and pills anymore, i hate to say it and i dont like to sensationalise but watch this take off a bit more.

Its neither practical or anything special IMO but i reckon one thing the media is right about is we will see more people at least trying it, and finding it easier to get hold of.

I mean why not, no doubt in my mind it can be and is probally being made here, no smuggling, no expensive raw materials like cocaine or heroin or mdma travelling half way across the world, and by all accounts the price it costs to make compared to the very real outragous prices that im aware of that it sells for, the profit margin is probally laughable in comparrison to other drugs.

If it does get popular i can see there being very serious turf wars over who wants to control what in some areas.

 

[neilios]

I don't reckon will take off that much in the uk - had plenty of opportunity to (I.e. previous MDMA drought), has had a good chance.

Uk fairly ok for choices of substances and users know what they want - just not the right market conditions (although I know likely many other theories on why it has not made it big in uk / Europe, perhaps earlier in this thread).

Sure the sun will write many more informative pieces on it though

Edit- my 300th motherfuking post, bam.

 

[Cornishman]

If the drugs are being produced someone will buy them.

Just look at ketamine.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

It might be easy to make but I think you're underestimating how much more difficult it would be to make within the UK, and how unentrepeneurial our dealers are. It would definitely take off if it was there, but they are just way too lazy to go to the effort of procuring all those raw materials, then making and distributing it in a way that doesn't get them caught. Dealers in the UK will just about stretch to doing a grow op (badly), and that's pushing it. 99% of them want a product there that they can just sell.

 

[dee_dee]

There are dealers in london that are stocking this along with there other lines such as mdma and k though now, id say that probally wasnt so much the case in the past.

It may be due to localised trends and the type of clientele they have also, who knows.

When i ask around its become apprent to me more and more that more people have indeed tried it recentley than what i would personally of expected, with some people saying they may do it three or four times a year, some people claiming they love it, and quite alot like me saying its rubbish and never want to try it again.

Maybe ive just been walking around with my head buried in the MDMA and partyworld sand for along time and not realising what else goes on around me, its always a possibility lol.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

I heard it has always been there and expanding in the London scene, but not turning up in decent amounts around the country anywhere else. I think if the market was built, then people would start making it who wouldn't otherwise? But there will have to be a few people getting people on it for everyone to get off their arse.

 

[neilios]

Seems to have been bubbling away for a while but if anything more of a rarity than approaching common use or even an epidemic.

Probably because no one knows how to smoke it right or have better taste in drugs

 

[parttime crackhead]

Here you have one of the main reasons why it won't take off that much in the UK...

It might be easy to make but I think you're underestimating how much more difficult it would be to make within the UK, and how unentrepeneurial our dealers are. It would definitely take off if it was there, but they are just way too lazy to go to the effort of procuring all those raw materials, then making and distributing it in a way that doesn't get them caught. Dealers in the UK will just about stretch to doing a grow op (badly), and that's pushing it. 99% of them want a product there that they can just sell.

& here's basically the proof. If ever there was a time for crystal meth to take a hold in the UK market it was during the MD drought before mephedrone got popular. It didn't happen. There's absolutely no reason for it to take off more now than it has in the past under better market conditions.

I don't reckon will take off that much in the uk - had plenty of opportunity to (I.e. previous MDMA drought), has had a good chance.