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Anyone seen methamphetamine in the UK/Europe?

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Hmm.

I was getting so p*ssed off hearing about this, being aware of people trying it, that when confronted with the situation where it was offered to me this weekend I decided to give it a try, just to get it out of my system, put it down to experience and move the hell on.

Its is such a weird one...

I cant quite put my finger on it, but I have never tried such a contradictory drug.

You could split it directly down the middle as polar opposites when describing it.

It is highly overated and is nothing/yet I can see that it could have the potential to be everything...

Unlike classic amphetamine, there was no in your face/extreme irritating stimulation, it felt much more mellow, calm (yet exilierating and elevated at the same time - more contradictions), and seductive than that.

I experienced a warm flush feeling, a nice glow, not hot or uncomfortable, sweaty, greasey or dirty. It felt very clean and smooth - it was nothing - yet nice. I did feel quite horny.

Even just after 2 deep long inhalations of this drug, it leaves me with very mixed feeling about it, the only dead cert being is I wont be trying it again.
 
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Reckon you got some good points there dee dee (no pun intended)

It's almost like a nothing (but everything) drug as its affects can be so subtle (but paradoxically all encompassing and powerful, therein lies the difficulty)

If not overdone (and too much will be over stimulating and potentially very sketchy / physically uncomfortable) meth is not a massively in your face high. If anything it can be subtle, also it lasts a fucking long time, so you are still feeling good the next day, however that is purely your dopamine and the drug at work...

In this sense it can be a sneaky one I reckon, the subtlety and silly duration combine to make it easy to use and go back to, the drawn out crash can leave you wanting more...

Almost like it does nothing yet it does everything, quietly it will make you a god for a slice of your soul.

Anyhow, am very much over what meth has to offer, if anything, but no doubt will be back to try it again at some time in the not so distant future and be cursing myself after ;)

A fucker of a drug :p if the duration could be cut by half / three quarters would be worthwhile imho
 
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there is some good stuff available in Germany
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From what I've read meth sounds borderline useless.

No real rush. Too long a duration.

Dextroamphetamine sounds like the best phet going imo.

No rush? I thought meth was all about the rush that's why it takes over so easily along with the duration. Sounds scary as fuck tbh definitely not one i'll be risking seeing as I find mephedrone a bit too moreish and this is supposed to feel even better and be more addictive. They have meth towns in the US lol
 
Friend of mine claimed to have had some down here in the South West UK, but then he was dicksizing and i was jokingly going along with it spurring him on so no idea if it really is true... We have to brew our own alcoholic beverages down here (but they are the best ;) )
 
No rush? I thought meth was all about the rush that's why it takes over so easily along with the duration. Sounds scary as fuck tbh definitely not one i'll be risking seeing as I find mephedrone a bit too moreish and this is supposed to feel even better and be more addictive. They have meth towns in the US lol

Carry on believing the hype.

How is methamphetamine any worse than mephedrone?
 
In this sense it can be a sneaky one I reckon,

Id be inclined to agree with you.

From what I've read meth sounds borderline useless.

Ive pretty much come to that conclusion to


I experienced a warm flush feeling

No doubt in my mind that thats what becomes the major attraction if you dare to experiment with it some more, which is just not going to happen.

Interesting to note that I had these two tokes of a pipe of ice on the early hours of Saturday afternoon. Now I have slept fine pretty much all day Sunday and all Sunday night, I also slept on and off yesterday day for some part and again last night.

Now I woke up on the early hours of this morning after some pretty horrific dreams, and the first thought that came into my head was, if I dont go back to sleep, I shant be experiencing that again. And we all no what would prevent me from sleeping again dont we?..

Id be very interested to no whats at play there, is there a psycological or scientific explanation of what exactly is happening?

Maybe its just sheer coincidence, but my opinion is whatever the drug is doing or has done, it definitley has some kind of pull, it has to have, otherwise it wouldnt have such a reputation.
 
Your dreams/nightmares were a coincidence. You are projecting meaning on to them.

All else is dopamine. Crystal meth is a brilliant amphetamine*. Borderline useless is laughable.


* legal disclaimer, stay away from meth if you give in easily to addiction and paranoid fantasies
 
Thats always a possibility.

I guess its horses for courses really.

Ive never really been the biggest thrillseeker in the pack, but now ive tried it I can wholeheartedly say IMO its higly overated and not to my personal taste.
 
SHM! My old nemesis on this thread has returned... ;)

This time with some fantastic bio psychological reductionist points (might have just made phrase up)

There is a rush with meth but not massively in your face. Smoked I would say less than crack, slammed is a lot more there.

In a way I reckon plain old amph sulphate is more 'rushy'...

Meth just has a ridiculous duration and I find fucks with your dopamine for too long...

Wouldn't term it useless as that is very subjective, it worked well for hitler.

I would say the lack of massive rush and silly duration mean it isn't really a thrill seekers drug anyhow, better suited to a long term campaign not immediately rewarded (I.e invading Poland)

Good for sex though. Very good indeed.
 
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Originally Posted by dee_dee
I experienced a warm flush feeling
No doubt in my mind that thats what becomes the major attraction if you dare to experiment with it some more,

Kind of sounds like a threshold dose. 50-100mg+ is rushy territory.

Your dreams/nightmares were a coincidence. You are projecting meaning on to them.

and this ^
 
It's on the high side, like say 250mg of MDMA would be on the high side. Alot of people dose around that though.

50mg+ basically is rush territory. Saying that meth isn't rushy or euphoric is nonsense though.

There's also a fair difference between 'meth' like the guy from Finland above posted. And d-methamphetamine (crystal meth). You've also got 'crank' aswell, dirty synth'd stuff that can be very strong some say because of the byproducts.

Depending on purity 50mg should have you rushing pretty hard for a good few hours. The description of "mellow" doesn't fit the bill at all from my experiance.
 
Does meth really give a proper rush?

From any amphetamine I ever did, I never got a rush. Even when IV'd.
I was under the impression that amphetamine gave a stable, monotonous (but nice), relentless buzz. Especially methamphetamine.

It keeps you on a level for hours/days.

A rush, being just that. Is 'rushed'

Like a rollercoaster, or a base jump.
It's all about the short sharp burst of speed/adrenaline. Hence why crack/cocaine is just as addictive as base jumping (well, maybe).

As for meth being useless. I mean, it seems to have no particular place in my psyche.

Dextroamphetamine is arguably the best phet going. And we all know base jumping, fast cars or cocaine are more than adequate when it comes to providing a rush?
 
I reckon if your IV'ing quality coke would be a better hit. But the first couple of hours of smoking meth are certainly rushy and euphoric, then it kind of evens out to a clean feeling speed buzz. There is definately a rush though.

D-methamphetamine surely pisses on dextroamphetamine, I'm pretty certain, in terms of euphoria and the 'rush'.
 
Yeah, ive read those prices on the front cover of the Sun etc.

Thats doesnt ring true to me, not for proper smokeable Tina, thats just to cheap.

I dont no what the prices of the shoddier stuff goes for, but the smokeable stuff thats clear or white crystal is very expensive.
 
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