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Television Breaking Bad

rules said:
torrents?
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Google is your friend. There are a million different ways to watch the show online, all you have to do is look. This isn't the place for this type of discussion.





Does anyone know if they ever actually showed Gale giving Walt the book?

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^ I read on another blog that they don't actually show Gale giving Walt the book. Apparently Gale is telling Walter about his love for Walt Whitman and later decides to give Walt the book, off screen.

I need to go back and re-watch all the episodes, there are so many nuances you miss. I watched the finale twice today and every time I feel like you pick up something new.

For a while I was thinking Skyler was going to kill herself, but she seemed to be higher spirits once she thought Walt quit the business. I'll be interested to see what comes of that because there's no way he just called up the cartel and said "I'm out, tough shit".
 
queenbee1127 said:
^ I read on another blog that they don't actually show Gale giving Walt the book. Apparently Gale is telling Walter about his love for Walt Whitman and later decides to give Walt the book, off screen.

I need to go back and re-watch all the episodes, there are so many nuances you miss. I watched the finale twice today and every time I feel like you pick up something new.

For a while I was thinking Skyler was going to kill herself, but she seemed to be higher spirits once she thought Walt quit the business. I'll be interested to see what comes of that because there's no way he just called up the cartel and said "I'm out, tough shit".
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He was reading Walt Whitman's Leave's of Grass in the season 3 episode Sunset, some time after he had a conversation with Gale about "The Learn'd Astronomer," and he was reading it right before Hank called him up to ask if he had ever seen an RV at Jesse's house.

I have a feeling Walt really is all the way out. For now, at least. I imagine getting out of his contract with those guys wasn't too difficult (they were just some Arizona distributors, not cartel), once the main guy (Declan, i believe?) knew who he was ("Say my name"), he quit being aggressive with him and backed down. Heisenberg is the boss, he can quit whenever he wants. He may also have taught Todd his cook, it had been 3 months and Todd seemed to fill in pretty well. Walt sort of did a 180 at the end of the episode, I was glad to see him quit being such a prick because in the second to last episode I really began to hate him for the first time.

I think the cancer is back, he's been ready to die for a long time, and he is probably content with all he has accomplished for his family. It's time for him to live a normal life, except for Hank discovering that damn book. It seems odd that Walt would miss a major detail like that, but when you think of all he has to cover up it's very minor, he might not have read the cover page since season 3 (before there was any connection between him and Gale from a police perspective) and it would be very easy to forget about when you are worried about being killed by a Gus Fring or having to shank 9 dudes in prison just to stay out yourself. It is exactly the type of small detail that brings down perfectly run criminal empires.
 
Man that huge pile of money reminded me of the $201 million cash seizure in mexico city a bunch of years ago. looked like its little brother lol...funny enough the indian guy whos money it was owned a chem supply company and was a major supplier of meth precursors to the cartel. namely psuedo/epehed.

so it looks like this final half season next summer will be all about walt and the dea. i mean walter does have some leverage in the siutation, being that he paid for hanks PT, and also pretty much saved his life by having gus or maybe mike call him with a voice disguise saying he was about to be attacked, giving him the upper hand. and cant forget what happened to the former dea SAC, got fired bc fring was right under his nose the entire time. if it comes out that walt is really heisenberg hank would be humiliated as well as lose his job.

I liked hanks memory about his college job and how its better than chasing monsters, and that monster is sitting right in front of him having a drink. one thing i found interesting was hanks description of his former college job, I thought he was going to compare it to his current case, its like hank goes in and talks to all these suspects and the next day someone comes in and kills everyone. like he was marking them for later removal.

Does everyone think hank put together that walt is heisenberg? or was it more hank finding out that walt def knows gale, and somehow might be invovled? i think back to when they were sending that fake heisnberg back to jail and walt just happened to be there while hank and the other agents are about to close the noose on the sting operation, giving just enough time to tell badger he was on the wrong bench.
 
This might be a good time to mention the film Leaves of Grass staring Edward Norton & Edward Norton:

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Not the most amazing film ever, but it's solid and definitely a film BLers would enjoy considering the drug references.
 
'medicine cabinet' said:
Does everyone think hank put together that walt is heisenberg? or was it more hank finding out that walt def knows gale, and somehow might be invovled? i think back to when they were sending that fake heisnberg back to jail and walt just happened to be there while hank and the other agents are about to close the noose on the sting operation, giving just enough time to tell badger he was on the wrong bench.
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Oh he definitely knows. Hank knows that items were stolen from Walt's lab back from season 1, he knows that Walt knows Jesse and that Jesse is involved in the meth business, he knows of at least a million dollars of Walt's (from "gambling"), and he knows that Walt is a chemist. Although if Walt is truly 100% out. I'm not sure how Hank will be able to prove it and if he even wants to. He will probably realize that the drug money is being laundered through the car wash and that if he takes down Walt, Skylar will be arrested too. I think Hank will be hesitant on deciding whether to take him down, but something will happen that forces Hank to take action.
 
For what it's worth Gilligan said on the insider podcast that he really wants to direct the final 2 episodes.
 
I think they should have ended the show last Sunday, as in, it should have been the Series Finale. I think it would have been a perfect way to end it.

This isn't Spiderman; I don't need to see a showdown between Hank and Walt. All the loose ends were tied - Walt became king, got his pride back, provided enough income for his family, Fring and the operation had been eliminated. So, why not leave the series with people wondering what happened to Walt and Hank later in their lives? Why must everything be so tightly and neatly woven for the mass audience?

That final scene where Hank realizes what WW stands for and they play the flashback conversation between him and Walt. That was brilliant. No show could ever top that ending and the series would be critically and universally acclaimed (as it should be) as one of the best series ever.

I'll eat crow if the last season ties up MORE loose ends but I just think its silly to keep going at this point. 99/100 times the Series Finale of any great show is vilified by the masses, i.e Sopranos obviously comes to mind. Thoughts?

Cheers

Tomer
 
Again, if you listen to the podcast, they are really vigilant about not leaving anything unanswered.
The next 8 episodes are going to just as "polished", if not more, than the previous 4½ seasons.
It was also said that there is no "holding back" now, everything is "out in the open" and the next 8 are going to be supercharged episodes, and I kinda believe them.
 
shreddedlettuce said:
Again, if you listen to the podcast, they are really vigilant about not leaving anything unanswered.
The next 8 episodes are going to just as "polished", if not more, than the previous 4½ seasons.
It was also said that there is no "holding back" now, everything is "out in the open" and the next 8 are going to be supercharged episodes, and I kinda believe them.
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It's all about making money; sorry to ruin your fantasy world.

Are the last 8 episodes going to be great? Most likely. Will the Series Finale be great? Highly debatable. Do we need another 8 episodes? Absolutely not.
 
Max Power said:
The same could be said about the end of season 4, no?
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Yes. I was actually going to mention that, as well. The reason season 4 felt like a Series Finale was because it actually was. Gilligan and the writers did so because they were unsure their contracts would be renewed.

I enjoy the show but I lose interest when shows drag out too long. I fear that has already happened with BB.
 
Tomer said:
It's all about making money; sorry to ruin your fantasy world.

Are the last 8 episodes going to be great? Most likely. Will the Series Finale be great? Highly debatable. Do we need another 8 episodes? Absolutely not.
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I totally disagree especially the money making statement.
Breaking Bad means so much to the creator, writers etc, and if it was just about the money then it wouldn't have grown into such a great series.
You have no idea how many hours those guys put into every episode.
I don't know why you are so cynical about it.

Tomer said:
sorry to ruin your fantasy world.
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Seriously??
Lmao
 
Tomer said:
I think they should have ended the show last Sunday, as in, it should have been the Series Finale. I think it would have been a perfect way to end it.

This isn't Spiderman; I don't need to see a showdown between Hank and Walt. All the loose ends were tied - Walt became king, got his pride back, provided enough income for his family, Fring and the operation had been eliminated. So, why not leave the series with people wondering what happened to Walt and Hank later in their lives? Why must everything be so tightly and neatly woven for the mass audience?

That final scene where Hank realizes what WW stands for and they play the flashback conversation between him and Walt. That was brilliant. No show could ever top that ending and the series would be critically and universally acclaimed (as it should be) as one of the best series ever.

I'll eat crow if the last season ties up MORE loose ends but I just think its silly to keep going at this point. 99/100 times the Series Finale of any great show is vilified by the masses, i.e Sopranos obviously comes to mind. Thoughts?

Cheers

Tomer
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Thoughts are you couldn't be more wrong, and I don't even believe this is really how you want it to end. Hank sitting on the shitter with a shocked look on his face. Really!? We've already seen Walt with a full head of hair and a new name on his 52nd birthday. Do you really just want to leave all that up to the imagination as to how he got there?
We're all anxious to see the remainder of the series, but you don't have to be a crybaby about it. ;)
 
shreddedlettuce said:
I totally disagree especially the money making statement.
Breaking Bad means so much to the creator, writers etc, and if it was just about the money then it wouldn't have grown into such a great series.
You have no idea how many hours those guys put into every episode.
I don't know why you are so cynical about it
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Forget about the money, then. I know Gilligan is passionate about this. This is his baby. That doesn't change the fact that the network made them add an additional season. There will be a Season 6. Its not the second half of season 5. It will be season 6.

Call me a cynic. Maybe I am? But don't any of you grow weary of shows dragging out for so long? You're going to wait an ENTIRE year to see how this all ends? Who cares, anymore? I loved this show and the acting was top rate. I don't need a pretty bow tie on top to make me feel content. I'm OK with cliffhangers...
 
Tomer said:
There will be a Season 6. Its not the second half of season 5. It will be season 6.
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huh?

Anyway, I don't want to get into a whole debate, I agree with some of your points above, and don't with some of the others.
Let's leave it at that.
;)
 
queenbee1127 said:
^ I read on another blog that they don't actually show Gale giving Walt the book. Apparently Gale is telling Walter about his love for Walt Whitman and later decides to give Walt the book, off screen
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This is nonsense. Now people are making up story lines that aren't even included anywhere in the script? Ha, come on. People are really reaching here for it to be Gale. I am in the minority that it is Gretchen because Gilligan is all about irony. What is more ironic than Walt's house of cards falling than an innocent message from someone he use to care deeply about? That, and the fact that this company once again screws him over. All of this points to Gretchen. But, I'm running off on a tangent here. I don't believe the blog you read for one second.
 
But Gretchen's last name is Schwartz.

and please don't say it's German for black. Who is reaching then?
 
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