Nicotine gum for fat loss

Genetic Freak

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Hey wanted to ask if anyone knows anything about nicotine gum as a cutting drug? Lot of young guys doing it, and a bit of good research behind it. Specially for a natty (kills the aromatase enzyme).....

Any input.. Thanks..!!!
 
I once tried nicotine patches because Im not a smoker but heard nicotine by itself has some properties however I got severe migranes and felt dizzy nauseated and hated the shit immediately.

I heard that nicotine reduces appetite? Unsure. If so wouldnt not eating have the same effect here?
 
nolys said:
Genetic freak is this a troll? Seriously?
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No... We're struggling with cutting compounds here in NZ, as our government is such an arse regards banning anything that actually works...
I've heard a lot mentioned recently regarding nicotine gum as a stimulant.... I was asked by a mate to post it up, wondered what others thought.... Serious..!!
 
Nicotine reduces appetite and slightly increases metabolism. I think you would get better results with the patch though for bodybuilding purposes. Just don't wear the patch to bed or else you will have horrid fucking dreams and don't smoke cigarettes or use any kind of legal or illegal stimulant or preworkout stimulant in conjunction with the patch unless you want to have heart failure. Also rotate the areas daily where you apply the patch.

Try a lower dose patch if you feel shitty on it, if you still do cut the patch down to a smaller size.
 
-Guido- said:
Nicotine reduces appetite and slightly increases metabolism. I think you would get better results with the patch though for bodybuilding purposes. Just don't wear the patch to bed or else you will have horrid fucking dreams and don't smoke cigarettes or use any kind of legal or illegal stimulant or preworkout stimulant in conjunction with the patch unless you want to have heart failure. Also rotate the areas daily where you apply the patch.

Try a lower dose patch if you feel shitty on it, if you still do cut the patch down to a smaller size.
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Thanks for that Guido... I'll pass it on...
 
Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances on this planet. The risks of developing a dependency far outweighs the benefits imo to a degree where I thought this was a troll
 
nolys said:
Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances on this planet. The risks of developing a dependency far outweighs the benefits imo to a degree where I thought this was a troll
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Got this from Wiki:
Technically, nicotine is not significantly addictive, as nicotine administered alone does not produce significant reinforcing properties. However, after coadministration with an MAOI, such as those found in tobacco, nicotine produces significant behavioral sensitization, a measure of addiction potential. This is similar in effect to amphetamine.....
 
-Guido- said:
don't smoke cigarettes or use any kind of legal or illegal stimulant or preworkout stimulant in conjunction with the patch unless you want to have heart failure. Also rotate the areas daily where you apply the patch.

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this is just ridiculous. do you know how many people use drugs or drink coffee whilst either smoking or whilst wearing a nicotine patch. it is not going to cause heart failure.

I think wearing a patch for appetite suppression is one of the dumbest things you can do. As a smoker who has tried to quit for years, nicotine is incredibly addictive. maybe not as some of the harder drugs, but due to it being legal and socially acceptable it is made doubly hard to give up. I fear that by using a patch regularly you may become addicted and then start smoking, which has all the health risks that I are well known by everyone.
 
psytaco said:
I think wearing a patch for appetite suppression is one of the dumbest things you can do. As a smoker who has tried to quit for years, nicotine is incredibly addictive. maybe not as some of the harder drugs, but due to it being legal and socially acceptable it is made doubly hard to give up. I fear that by using a patch regularly you may become addicted and then start smoking, which has all the health risks that I are well known by everyone.
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I agree with this. Most people on this part of the forum are going to say - I control my own body, if you don't have will power you should stay away from aas and all this bullshit.
Nicotine is addictive, its readily available, socially accecptable which is why its so hard to stop and IMO has no place in body building or and other part of physical activity.
 
nolys said:
I agree with this. Most people on this part of the forum are going to say - I control my own body, if you don't have will power you should stay away from aas and all this bullshit.
Nicotine is addictive, its readily available, socially accecptable which is why its so hard to stop and IMO has no place in body building or and other part of physical activity.
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Technically, nicotine is not significantly addictive, as nicotine administered alone does not produce significant reinforcing properties. However, after coadministration with an MAOI, such as those found in tobacco, nicotine produces significant behavioral sensitization, a measure of addiction potential. This is similar in effect to amphetamine.....

Nicotine only becomes addictive when combined with the Monoamine oxidase inhibitor found in Tobacco smoke......

I'll spell it out for you......!!!
 
I never bought a pack of cigs for myself in my life. I made a vow to myself after my grandfather died at 60 from a major heart attack. I now see most people who smoke cigarettes as careless after doing research at what it does to the heart and arteries.

However for a little while I was alternating between using dip or caffeine to help suppress appetite and as a stimulant. I no longer recommend it, because it's a nasty habit, the cancer risk and dip can really raise the blood pressure. (Mostly because it was a nasty habit and I didn't want any girls to know I did it.)

Personally, I think the negativity behind using nicotine as a stimulant is overrated so long as it's not in the form of smoke.
 
Would this imply that nicotine patches and the like are bunk and do not work because they don't contain an maoi?
Its a mixture of chemicals in the tobacco smoke that causes addiction so why would patches work for an addict? Unless the patches also contain an maoi?
 
Only exposure to nicotine is needed to alleviate withdrawal. The MAOI just promotes the reinforcing effects of cigarettes. MAOIs on their own produce, to my knowledge, no withdrawal syndrome. However, nicotine is bad for the heart, regardless of the way it is administered.

If you want an appetite suppressant, I recommend pinolenic acid from pine nuts, i.e. just eat friggin' pine nuts. I figure this is safer than taking drugs.
 
nolys said:
Would this imply that nicotine patches and the like are bunk and do not work because they don't contain an maoi?
Its a mixture of chemicals in the tobacco smoke that causes addiction so why would patches work for an addict? Unless the patches also contain an maoi?
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No. You get your nicotine but you don't get the buzz. Think of patches, gum, and E-Cigs like Suboxone or Methadone; It inhibits withdrawal but you get no buzz or rush.
 
I think you still get a buzz off e-cigs. They don't contain an MAOI but they still deliver the substance to your brain within seconds. Comparable to IVing your suboxone.

Did anyone actually try nicotine for cutting? Maybe in combination with caffeine? In my country caffeine and nicotine are pretty much the only legal cutting aids. Ephedrine is as hard to get as the "real" cutting drugs, e.g. clen, t3/, yohimbine or even AAS.
 
Yeah I was going to mention ephedrine but I don't know where your located. But an Ephedrine, caffeine,and nicotine, stack would work nicely.
 
Does nicótine actually reduce appetite or do smokers gain weight when they stop smoking because their dopamine levels are fucked and they try to replace nicotine with food?

Why not use clen, tren or winny or just a a cutting cycle of test?
 
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