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[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

we all have natural subconscious defenses built up over time as our personalities develop as a reaction to upbringing and social interaction, no?

Pretty sure most people have. I know I have. Lately i've been making a very conscious effort to let go the need to judge myself or other people. I've found it runs so deep. Its our key defence..'what are they doing? Why are they doing it? What are they like? etc.
You mentioned comparing yourself to other people earlier. I think theres a judgement and a measuring up there too if we feel we fall short in some way.

Re rambling. Thats ok chuck. Its a rambling thread isnt it? :D

I've got no real memory of where my head was at at 5 to 8. My mum was on her own and there was no Dad around which was unusual but I cant remember feeling disturbed in anyway by it. I think my Mums always been good at abundance... Shes the kind of woman that even when shes been poor she seemed rich if you know what I mean?
My Dad came into our lives when I was about 12 or 13. That completely shook up our lives. He'd spent 7 years in prison fighting everyone. He was terrifying when he lost it actually.. absolutely thunderous... ramble ramble

 

[ColtDan]

I had a vision of God once that completely blew me away. Have you ever seen something so beautiful you cant look? It literally takes your breath away Spade. I saw God as a man and woman I couldn't bare to look at thier faces they were so exquisite. On subsequent trips over the years i've seen how the whole universe is about them... the interplay of male and female. Their love affair in all its manifold variations.

Ive had this before. like mother nature and a budda. what substances did you experience this on?

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Marmz, without trying to be annoying or anything, I genuinely would like to know how you can be certain that whilst you are under the influence of these drugs you are truly getting to grips with your motivations, rather than say imagined drug induced motivations? Placing you and myself side by side with other people who haven't used psychs doesn't really show me that either of us has gained anything over the non-drug user by using really.

 

[Marmalade]

Pretty sure most people have. I know I have. Lately i've been making a very conscious effort to let go the need to judge myself or other people. I've found it runs so deep. Its our key defence..'what are they doing? Why are they doing it? What are they like? etc.
You mentioned comparing yourself to other people earlier. I think theres a judgement and a measuring up there too if we feel we fall short in some way.

Re rambling. Thats ok chuck. Its a rambling thread isnt it? :D

I've got no real memory of where my head was at at 5 to 8. My mum was on her own and there was no Dad around which was unusual but I cant remember feeling disturbed in anyway by it. I think my Mums always been good at abundance... Shes the kind of woman that even when shes been poor she seemed rich if you know what I mean?
My Dad came into our lives when I was about 12 or 13. That completely shook up our lives. He'd spent 7 years in prison fighting everyone. He was terrifying when he lost it actually.. absolutely thunderous... ramble ramble

We all compare ourselves to each other. it's how we interact mainly. I think it's a natural response to needing to understand our place within our chosen 'groups'. We judge others when we need to compensate our egos when we feel inadequate, and we judge ourselves when we allow our self doubt to dominate how 'valuable' we feel within that group. And everyone else within the group does the same.

I think as we become more introspective we tend to develop better abilities to contextualise those comparisons, and instead of judge when we make them, we just want to understand more about why, which neutralises their predominance as a 'right' or wrong'

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saw your edit later.

We have similar beginings and a lot of my issues centre around similar to yours. same as the attitude towards your mother too

 

[ColtDan]

Hip-hop manager Chris Lighty dead after shooting himself outside his Bronx apartment: cops
Lighty, 44, a longtime manager of 50 Cent, Diddy, Ja Rule and Mariah Carey, was arguing with his estranged wife

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...uicide-bronx-apartment-cops-article-1.1148073

crazy

 

[Marmalade]

Marmz, without trying to be annoying or anything, I genuinely would like to know how you can be certain that whilst you are under the influence of these drugs you are truly getting to grips with your motivations, rather than say imagined drug induced motivations? Placing you and myself side by side with other people who haven't used psychs doesn't really show me that either of us has gained anything over the non-drug user by using really.

Because the results can be directly applied in terms of actual everyday behaviours and words and conversations via changes in specific interactions, and those changes inevitably lead to positive improvements between two people. It can be directly measured. The knowledge stays with you and can be (is) excercised regularly. It leads to improved skillsets in interpersonal relations which can be measured by feedback from others .. over a long or short period of time. That's just off the top of my head. It was a good question and there's a lot more to it which can also be articulated and measured. I'll give it more thought over the next few days

 

[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

They had crowns Dan I forgot to mention that.. and stood shoulder to shoulder with loads of flowing locks that were beaded and plaited somehow.
It was about my 3rd DXM trip. Strong enough to lay me out for a few hours..

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I imagine shes a hard act to follow Marmz??? :D

 

[brimz]

Hi Guys n Galls , how goes it ?

I am in possesion of some really nice Tackle & just knowing i have it is enough to make me feel high . Placebos really can work .

 

[SpecialK_]

Psychedelics and their 'revelations' are a weird one for me. I would say they have made me much more open minded and more willing to consider other views and to try and enjoy the simple things such as enjoying the company of others more. But when I think about it in all my times of tripping I've never had a thought that really changed my way of thinking or my lifestyle. It's helped to put things into perspective a little easier, but then again I've no idea if the perception a trip has gave me is true or if it's just being tripped out. They are good for that whole restart feeling though, almost as if you want to begin a new chapter a strong trip can help you do that.

Anyone ever used fish oil? Seems to be able to fix a lot of things but no real proof. So any experiences or is it all nonsense? Does it improve sense of well being or anything? Sounds like a lot for something so simple to do.

 

[monstanoodle]

Easy now brimzy

Doing alright cheers man. Sounds like you're going to be having a lush eve
Got some stuff myself which is nice but, because of the itch, I keep accidently scratching my bandaged shoulder (which is itchy as it is) and it fookin hurts! 8(

 

[Mugz]

cant seem to be able to type as my head is twisted in ways that make typing such a fucking nightmare, I've definitely done too much mxe, it's lingeringing too long

 

[TheSpade]

I had a vision of God once that completely blew me away. Have you ever seen something so beautiful you cant look? It literally takes your breath away Spade. I saw God as a man and woman I couldn't bare to look at thier faces they were so exquisite. On subsequent trips over the years i've seen how the whole universe is about them... the interplay of male and female. Their love affair in all its manifold variations.

But it's all just a load of bollocks though isn't it? None of it is real, looks nice and seems amazing at the time right enough. I can't do trippy drugs anymore, freaks me out every time.

We all compare ourselves to each other. it's how we interact mainly. I think it's a natural response to needing to understand our place within our chosen 'groups'. We judge others when we need to compensate our egos when we feel inadequate, and we judge ourselves when we allow our self doubt to dominate how 'valuable' we feel within that group. And everyone else within the group does the same.

I think as we become more introspective we tend to develop better abilities to contextualise those comparisons, and instead of judge when we make them, we just want to understand more about why, which neutralises their predominance as a 'right' or wrong'

You better keep boshing those psychedelic drugs Marmz because you're judgemental and impose your own morals on to others fairly regularly on here so they obviously aren't working very well.

cant seem to be able to type as my head is twisted in ways that make typing such a fucking nightmare, I've definitely done too much mxe, it's lingeringing too long

When did you last take it Mugz? I was under the impression you stopped this afternoon when you had the pizza episode.

 

[brimz]

My typing skills are impaired but my head is more nice & relaxed in an Opiate stylee. How long do you rekon b4 you will be able to get some kip Mugz ?

 

[parttime crackhead]

What was the pizza episode? I must have missed this, sounds amusing.

 

[TheSpade]

It was a cracker, he made a pizza he found in his wardrobe but he had no idea why it was in there. Then once he cooked it and ate half he freaked out as he couldn't remember buying it (he's been on MXE for days I think) so put it half eaten back in the fridge and sat in his room freaking out in case it belonged to this flat mate. Then he decided it must be his as he had a 1.5 litre bottle of coke in his room too so we convinced him to go eat it anyway and just replace it later if not. He went and ate the rest and then once eaten decided he was only 40% sure the pizza was ever in his wardrobe and probably belonged to someone else.

 

[knock]

But it's all just a load of bollocks though isn't it? None of it is real, looks nice and seems amazing at the time right enough. I can't do trippy drugs anymore, freaks me out every time.

Any perception is real. It was really perceived. Maybe the perception didn't correlate closely to "objective reality", but it happened, and so is real. That much is not really arguable. Whether it's "bollocks" or not is a different matter.

Usually, when I've been tripping, I've just had a really good time. That fits in with intentions, as I've most often taken psychedelics because I enjoy what they do to my mind. I like the fractal, three-dimensional animations, enhanced imagination (with acid, making my own music in my head that sounds like I've got it on CD) and heightened emotions (on LSD, again, euphoria/excitement that MDMA has never even approached). So on that level it's definitely not bollocks.

That's not what you're talking about though; you're on about whether or not psychedelics can give us some sort of insight into reality that we wouldn't otherwise get. From my own experience, they can certainly change what we focus on, or perhaps bring subconscious thoughts into the conscious mind. On an aMT trip I saw the cycle of life, generation giving way to generation, visually before me. It made me think about my own mortality, and it made me consider my priorities. I realised, consciously, that I had a responsibility to look after my parents in their old age. It occurred to me that part of the reason people have children is to buy themselves security for their old age. I hadn't really thought about this before, and I haven't fully come to terms with it, as I think it's pretty fucking selfish, and as I don't yet have children, I feel a bit worried about my own situation. Who'll look after me? I don't know. The point is, it's a fairly serious subject which I hadn't considered until aMT brought it into my mind, visually. It felt a bit like I was being forced to grow up.

 

[TheSpade]

Usually, when I've been tripping, I've just had a really good time.

Same...or a really horrible time if it's a bad trip which I think the last 3 or 4 of my trips were. Been a long time since I've touched anything but I don't think I will again, psychs scare me too much now.

I wish I could still enjoy 2CB, that stuff is amazing when it's going good.

 

[ColtDan]

Anyone ever used fish oil? Seems to be able to fix a lot of things but no real proof. So any experiences or is it all nonsense? Does it improve sense of well being or anything? Sounds like a lot for something so simple to do.

makes me feel kinda sharper and feel good, deff worth taking, probably one of the best supplements ive taken n i used to take quite a lot (plus i eat quite a lot of oily fish)

Any perception is real. It was really perceived. Maybe the perception didn't correlate closely to "objective reality", but it happened, and so is real. That much is not really arguable.

Exactly

 

[Myshkin]

I also believe psychedelics can be of immense therapeutic benefit. A few trips have been real 'cleansing' affairs; with the help of mushrooms and LSD I managed to change the way I relate to other people completely, as well as begin to deal with a lot of the fallout from a pretty rocky childhood (get your sob stories out, etc.). I also fell in love completely for the first time, due in part to the way my defences were well and truly shattered for long enough for me to let somebody in.

Conversely, I've also managed to take some of the 'revelations' I've experienced far too seriously and suffered the consequences. I seriously believed to be on some 'spiritual mission' at one really kooky time, even going as far as to flirt with various religions, even including X-tianity, which I'm glad I snapped out of.

The aforementioned girl I fell in love with also dumped me because I was becoming a pseudo-Jim Morrison 'mystical' bore. Which in part was due to psychedelics.

It's what you make of it, and it's important not to interpret every experience as a glimpse of some profound objective 'truth', as it usually results in nothing but self-serving delusion.

Any perception is real. It was really perceived. Maybe the perception didn't correlate closely to "objective reality", but it happened, and so is real. That much is not really arguable. Whether it's "bollocks" or not is a different matter.

Exactamundo.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Do you know the reasons why you find it harder drop defences and recognise where you're at fault without psychedelics Marmz?

Because psyches help break down the barriers of ego-consciousness. Our egos tell us we are seperate, different. Higher (altered) consciousness puts us back in touch with 'oneness', seeing ourselves (literally) as part of the whole.