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after the thoughts time loop crash

Project Alice

Project Alice

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it can happen on few psychedelics..combos in my case
slowely growing into a rollercoaster...

How is your experience?

i keep it short..

that special feeling
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opposite thoughts
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strong opposites
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looping
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crashing

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crash
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re-confusion

means that letters of the sentences
are mixing up into new sentences..
hard to perceive and im
forgetting the half of it on the way and im not able writing it down...
 
Generally if you reach a point where it is hard to comprehend or collect your thoughts, you should reduce your dose next time.
Respect psychedelics and they'll respect you.
 
of course true.

and otherwise its a jump into wonderland head first without water. but..i comprehend a bit more after every crash. its also growing, but to what? both sides are possible.
 
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I personally don't feel that those sort of "universes-colide-with-bright-white-light" experiences are very healthy for the psyche.In the end you're just staring into superamplified neural noise. Staring at the sun, as it were, is not very good for your perceptual system. It's undue stress on a mind.

I know several people who have taken large peak doses a few times, and yet prefer smaller portions.
But on the other hand I know some people do find chaotic trips more fulfilling than controlled ones. Maybe we are opposites here?
 
opposites. :D

coming from nice trips to more and more chaos..into needing chaos what makes future unpredictable but thats also strong opposite situation for me.

at least i can still write in a way people understand.

..yeah, long gone everyone could.
 
It's happened to me before on a low dose of LSD.

I was with some friends and didn't plan on tripping that night, ate three blotters at my friends house and some people got into a fight. It really freaked me out and I was watching the new Alice in Wonderland and some deep scary voice came on (havent watched it since so I don't know which part) and that made it worse I remember. I couldn't understand anything my friends were saying and eventually I was just in my own little world not freaking out on the outside or anything but just spaced out for 4+ hours at the end of my trip. Everything was good until the start of the fight. I came down, had a weird day the next day but I was fully recovered in a week.

I was also eating it too much, almost every other weekend for a few months. I never had a bad trip until then, but after that experience I've only tripped once and haven't done anymore psychedelics for a year+. It's not that I don't like it and don't enjoy it anymore I just feel like a long break is good for me. I'm also not suffering from any long term side effects.
 
yeah like..

psycho-a-trize world.

didnt want to say it at first..
it all started with already having a latent psychosis and
the first (horror) time loop, 10 years ago was on weed+alc looking out of the window of a subway.
looking for ever at that slowely moving wall...and visions of the matrix including both worlds.

that was a total freak out for a long time, sent me to the mental institution...
paranoid schizophrenia and derealisation syndrome.

BUT

after years of horror all negativ symptoms faded out and today i only have positive symptoms that let me enjoy the damage, more and more exploring my innerworld and my derealisation syndrome makes that even easier.
 
that is the problem...and one of the reasons i joined her.
a good friend with hppd says it happens partly before his lucid dreams start.
but i sometimes have totally different loop experiences when im sober, what also means no meds..they grow much much slower and towards the end its such a mess that i couldnt continue.

some doses of drugs and relating accidents can change people so radically they are living in their own world, while still being able to talk about it and receiving answers is a nice world.
 
Never Knows Best said:
Can you please rephrase the topic of discussion more clearly?
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he's talking about thought loops and the 'phases' or patterns that send him into a fully blown one.

I can totally relate to the 'opposite thoughts' and 'strong opposites' almost every time I've had a detrimental thought loop it has been preceded by a feeling that something was about to happen, a strong feeling of foreboding that really shakes me and gets me a little spun out at the events unfolding.

and yes afterwards there is a crash of wow, I really need to watch out for the comedown of 'x'
 
This is EXACTLY what happened to me 2 years ago from mushrooms.

Impossible to explain, it's just like you've become infinity. Seen, done, heard, smelled, tasted, lived everything already and it's all flying past again to show you, but then it happens again, but faster and faster and faster. the bouncing between of thoughts that represent the opposites of each other, and sort of neutralize each other, while becoming looped quicker and quicker.

then crash.

Been two years, and finally got the guts to take mushrooms again, and nothing even remotely as insane/horrific as what occurred that night alone in my room happened. Just a pretty average trip with the usual mushroom not quute bad trip, but just difficult/frustrating/negative/depressing thoughts.
 
I understand what you are all saying about the thought loops, happens to me on more lsd than with tryptamines.

Could you clarify what you mean by the "crash" ?

Also tho OP mentioned it happens more to them on combos, what combos are you taking and in what doses ?

Been two years, and finally got the guts to take mushrooms again
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I hear ya, I was reluctant to do them again for quite a long time after a similar experience, I eased myself back into mushrooms with some low (1 to 2 gram) doses and it was good, don't think I'm up to a 5 gram experience again yet, (it was 8 grams that kicked my ass) I have planned a few higher dose trips since and chickened out every time.
 
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