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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V1

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hello all hope you all doing well . ok i know this a bit of a daft and lazy question but whats the difference if any between the powder and crystals if any ? thinking of getting a gram for this weekend as its a bank holiday and i can just go daft :)
 
hello all hope you all doing well . ok i know this a bit of a daft and lazy question but whats the difference if any between the powder and crystals if any ? thinking of getting a gram for this weekend as its a bank holiday and i can just go daft :)

I got powder coming this time, last time I ordered crystals. I am assuming they do the crushing for you, I'll give you an update when it arrives.
 
well im most likely going to get 500mg of each if i do just to see but i guess your right with the crushing them for you part :)

well iv just found this and i guess the answer is not a great deal

Any prospective Ethylphenidate researcher must think carefully about which EP they want to experiment with as there are various fundamental differences between powder & crystal Ethylphenidate. The first difference all scientists should be aware of is that powder is a lot less dense than crystal EP. 2 grams of powder Ethylphenidate can often look like 3 or 4 grams whereas 2 grams of crystal EP looks more like 1 gram. You may ask why this is important however this can play a crucial part in your experiments and can often lead to inacurate measurements. The powder Ethylphenidate also mixes a lot better with other compounds due to the fact it has already been broken down. Crystal EP is very difficult to mix with other compounds due to it’s unique consistency – large glass-like shards. Many Research Chemical experts tend to prefer crystal Ethylphenidate due to the fact that it is very difficult for untrustworthy online suppliers to cut EP with any other substances. If you are going to purchase powder Ethylphenidate always ensure the vendor you are ordering through is one you can trust.

Both Ethylphenidate powder & crystals are understood to be soluble in water although the dissolving timescale appears to be longer with the crystals. Anyone conducting any form of bespoke experimentation with EPH must ensure that they are wearing a protective mask to avoid insufflation during testing. This is particularly important for the powder as it can easily disperse with a slight increase in wind or exhalation.
 
I got powder coming this time, last time I ordered crystals. I am assuming they do the crushing for you, I'll give you an update when it arrives.

They do not crush the crystals for you, assuming you are ordering from a reputable vendor.
The powder and crystal are formed during the synthesis process.
Do you think the vendor has the time or would bother smashing kilo bags of crystals into the very fine formulation the powder consists of?

Even if you spent all day crushing an amount of crystal it wouldn't be even possible to produce anything near the flour-like powder.
 
Hey,

Whenever I ordered EPH before I always ordered the crystal version however for some unknown reason I decided to go with the powdered version this time and when I opened my package this morning the powder was incredibly fine it doesn't look like the powder I got from crushing the crystals myself, is this normal? My vendor has never let me down and I have complete trust that what they sent me is exactly what I asked for.

I can't think of anything to relate how fine the powder is. At best I would say its finer then normal table salt.

Im not a huge fan of EPH because everytime ive taken it it has bought on mad panic attacks (40-50mgs, single dose) so I mixed this with my MPA at 10mg MPA and 10mg EPH and I have to say it works amazing, not heavy on the heart at all. I wouldn't normally recommend mixing stims with stims but at these low dosages it seems to have worked great.
 
I've tried this compound extensively at different dosages/roa's. I find snorting it to be my least favored roa. Oral is good, it comes on smoother and of course its far easier than membrane administration, but by far plugged takes them all.

I have to agree with daytryptr, plugging for me (once I got past the mental objections I had to sticking anything there) has been an excellent ROA. No bloody nose and no irritation anywhere else. The stim is clean and you need less than oral because you bypass first pass metabolism. To me it's a great functional stimulant with mild, manageable euphoria. My usual dose plugged is 40 - 80 mg dissolved in 2-3 cc H2O. I love this stuff.
 
Hey,

Whenever I ordered EPH before I always ordered the crystal version however for some unknown reason I decided to go with the powdered version this time and when I opened my package this morning the powder was incredibly fine it doesn't look like the powder I got from crushing the crystals myself, is this normal? My vendor has never let me down and I have complete trust that what they sent me is exactly what I asked for.

I can't think of anything to relate how fine the powder is. At best I would say its finer then normal table salt.

Im not a huge fan of EPH because everytime ive taken it it has bought on mad panic attacks (40-50mgs, single dose) so I mixed this with my MPA at 10mg MPA and 10mg EPH and I have to say it works amazing, not heavy on the heart at all. I wouldn't normally recommend mixing stims with stims but at these low dosages it seems to have worked great.

Is it as fine as powdered sugar? Cause tbh that's what I was getting when I crushed my crystals with a credit card and rubbed back and forth.
 
They do not crush the crystals for you, assuming you are ordering from a reputable vendor.
The powder and crystal are formed during the synthesis process.
Do you think the vendor has the time or would bother smashing kilo bags of crystals into the very fine formulation the powder consists of?

Even if you spent all day crushing an amount of crystal it wouldn't be even possible to produce anything near the flour-like powder.

Well thanks for enlightening me.

Also, I had no problem getting a flour like powder from the crystals by simply pressing a credit card over the shards and rubbing it back and forth.
 
Powder form came today, was the icing sugar consistency I expected as this is the same looking/textured powder I got when I chopped the crystals down myself.

Edit: Although I do believe the guy who says this occurs during synthesis, how can they stop the drug from crystallizing during synthesis? I'm actually intrigued.

t minus 5 minutes since 30mg line.

and I gotta take a dump, yes this is a stim.
 
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Is it as fine as powdered sugar? Cause tbh that's what I was getting when I crushed my crystals with a credit card and rubbed back and forth.

Yeah, I guess I could say the two look alike however when I crushed the crystals myself the end product looked thicker, prehaps I didnt crush properly.

As to your latest post, don't you think its a little late to be taking a stim?
 
Yeah, I guess I could say the two look alike however when I crushed the crystals myself the end product looked thicker, prehaps I didnt crush properly.

As to your latest post, don't you think its a little late to be taking a stim?

Where I live it's only 4:09pm atm, and i took it at around what 2:30pm o;clock? a bit earlier i think.
 
Ah sorry I assumed you was from the UK, never mind :)

Have you previously made a TR on EPH?
 
The more I use this stuff the more I notice how extremely important it is for me to always have enough beer with me. It really does wonders for the anxiety and jitteriness, and it reduces the comedown to almost zero. You really have to drink quite a lot though. But unlike on e.g. speed and coke, when I can drink insane amounts of alcohol and it never overpowers the stimulant, alcohol does quite a good job at dampening the effects of ethylphenidate.
 
Ah sorry I assumed you was from the UK, never mind :)

Have you previously made a TR on EPH?

nah, but I have to say I think i liked the crystals more. Even though they hurt more when snorted even after i made into a nice powder, my current high is quite jittery and anxious. However, I haven't combined with any alcohol, and last time I found a few beers before snorting a line of this stuff made for a much more euphoric pleasurable experience.

A couple of etizolams with it hasn't done much, maybe cut the corners to some of the anxiety.

Not sure why their would be any difference in the high between crystals and powder, all I can guess is maybe a racemic mixture this time that tilts toward the more jittery isomer a bit more.
 
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nah, but I have to say I think i liked the crystals more. Even though they hurt more when snorted even after i made into a nice powder, my current his is quite jittery and anxious. However, I haven't combined with any alcohol, and last time I found a few beers before snorting a line of this stuff made for a much more euphoric pleasurable experience.

I don't know why, but the crystals (from different vendors) have a considerable slower onset, although being even more effective than the powder. Even snorted it takes 10-20 minutes to really feel the crystals (crushed, of course), whereas the powder can be felt in a few minutes strongly. No idea why this is the case.

Alcohol really is good with this stuff, the anxiety would be too much without it.
 
I don't know why, but the crystals (from different vendors) have a considerable slower onset, although being even more effective than the powder. Even snorted it takes 10-20 minutes to really feel the crystals (crushed, of course), whereas the powder can be felt in a few minutes strongly. No idea why this is the case.

Alcohol really is good with this stuff, the anxiety would be too much without it.

Agreed, unless I can get myself to swing by the store to grabs some alcohol I won't be doing anymore today.

EDIT: got a six Pack of 6% tall cans, drank two , then did a 50mg line. Buzz is totally different when mixed with alcohol, creepy as heck how close the high is so similar to alcohol + coke accept 30 mins later I still feel pretty great with no desire to redose, the high maybe slightly less as great as cocaethlyene but considering the no desire to redose and from my last experience a comedown that is virtually unnoticble compared to my coke+alcohol comedowns at the end of a night once u run out of coke and alcohol, this substance definetly likely has quite some potential for addiction as I'm assuming after over a month clean from coke I'm experiencing a slight honey moon period with this drug and that eventually the negative side effects will rear its ugly head like all stims. This was my last order for a while though, and I'm sure that Eph will get scheduled soon enough:p

Hopefully, the last thing I need is a legal alternative to blow that my mailman delivers lol. I quit coke cold turkey by deleting all my dealers, 5 weeks clean from coke when I had a 1-2-3 times a week habit, my final straw to quit being the comedowns after spending 500$+ dollars in a week. Not worth ittt.

Edit2: an hour and a half later after that 50 mg line while sipping my third beer I feel like I'm peaking again haha, decent waves of euphoria throughout my body, if this was coke I'd be coming down hard ATM and feel terriblee. Almost like MDMA in the sense that I'm getting a second wave of euphoria an hour later. After I thought I had peaked. Although don't be mislead by me thinking the euphoria from this can compare to MDMA, just has the same Odd second peak effect.

Edit3: God damn... I'm would honestly go as far as to say this sh*t is better, even though I'm using much smaller amounts each line, then the street coke I was doing when I quit. That was one of the reasons I quit, my solid dealer who always had nice rock, beautiful coke stopped dealing and I was grabbing from a guy whos coke was all powder already pretty much. In 5 hours I've done about a 120mg of this stuff with some beer and I feel f*cking great, a lot better than after a half gram of my previous dealers sh*t clearly cut powder blow. That smelt like laundry detergent...

This drug should not be under-estimated, it is a whole new experience combined with alcohol. Sober, it's an anxiety jittery ridden caffeine like overdose mess, with alcohol I feel fantastic.

Even though ethylphenidate is supposed to be the metabolite of methylphenidate with alcohol, still ethylphenidates overall recreational value greatly benefits
By drinking alcohol before dosing, and then again between dosing. I'm sure this is more toxic overall however regardless, because alcohol alone is such a killer itself.

Not to mention, it's far cheaper, reliable and IMO far more potent per milligram. Compared to street coke atleast, when mixed with our ever so infamous alcohol-stim combo, known as the
Specifically toxic metabolite cocaethlyene, with EPH + alcohol tread carefully my friends .

I'm still interested in trying my own
Cocaine extraction from coca tea bags however, and trying to see if I can get a pure cocaine product to try if I ever do coke again, but other than that I sure as hell have no desire (and since I deleted every dealer and anyone who knew them from my phone and life) to ever try street cocaine again . What a filthy drug that coca is.

edit4lol: sorry for all the updates, just weighed my EPH and in total in the past about 11 hours I've done 180mg's. The whole time I've felt pretty dang great, had this been a coke binge I'd be feeling terrible by now no matter what and I'd likely have done well over a gram in 11 hours. By the 8 hour-ish mark in a coke binge I almost even lose the fiend re-dose urge because my comedown is already starting quickly after each line and is so terrible that my brain zaps and just accepts that even if I do another line now I'm just making the comedown worse in 5 minutes.

I'm officially stopping for the night as I just opened my last beer and crushed down a zopiclone i've had stashed for a while and half a etizolam i also crushed, combining both into a parachute I'ma take in the next 30 minutes or less to go to sleep. Really impressed by the lack of urge to redose with this drug, as 180mg's of coke might have lasted me 1 hour at most, but 11 hours later with EPH i'm still feeling pretty great and am completely content with coming down and going to sleep at 10:49pm.

Best described the alcohol + then EPH high is a content, happy, uninhibited, glad to speak your heart out high, with euphoria that is similar to cocaine + alcohol high, but with less bumps in the road (really high, then suddenly crashing, hated this with coke) and an overall maybe a bit less euphoric high, but FAR LESS OF A HARSH NOTICEABLE CRASH, but rather a nice slow comedown to baseline, without really crashing hard and going into a insta-hell kind of a crash. (You know the crash where you actually go far below your sober baseline, and just feel f*cking totally terrible?) 1 hour since I last dosed and I still feel great, still have over half my last beer left and my 7.5mg zopiclone-0.5mg etizolam parachute to take so I can easily go to sleep.

Generally once i'm even just 5 hours into a cocaine binge (with alcohol 5 hours in, and much quicker anxiety-jittery side effects if doing coke sober, even a single 50mg line providing a bit of a comedown for 20+ minutes, with the actually high having only had mediocre euphoria) the comedowns (from street coke) hit you prominently and instantly make you feel like fucking shit and so down, that on many nights, at least with me personally, I had a bag still nearly full of cocaine and decided not to re-dose because I know taking more just slightly prolongs the comedown and inevitably makes it worse, and last longer.

Although that mindset didn't last long lol, and I began redosing when the comedown down hit.

PS: sorry for the length of this post lol, I've been editing and adding to it for 6 solid hours lol.
 
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Well', I've been doing this stuff for too long myself, I'm trying to drink enough to kill the high now.

But, with regards to cocaine. I'll always differ when it comes to coke, as it is the best stimulant on this planet IMO. It beats the living sh!t out of all other stimulants. The feeling of self-confidence, that everything is in control, the huge ego-boost, the insane euphoria after a few lines of coke, EPH just never comes close to it. Strangely enough I usually don't get any bad comedowns from coke, whereas EPH really is extremely nasty when it comes to the crash/comedown. I get so extremely irritated I just want to smash and break things.

The thing that makes coke unique for me is that although it's a stimulant, it's so mellow. I can just sit back and relax with coke, there's no urge to move or do anything special. Everything just feels so damn good. EPH is not nearly as mellow, and I have to drink a lot to keep it from becoming too jittery. Both have the very negative effect of being the most moreish stimulants I've ever touched, probably due to their short duration and the need/urge to redose very often. In this regard good ol' speed is superior, it's much more manageable.

But, alcohol definitely is needed for ethylphenidate to be enjoyable. I'd never manage to enjoy this stuff without massive amounts of beer. With speed/coke, it doesn't matter how much I drink, alcohol never overpowers them.
 
Well thanks for enlightening me.

Also, I had no problem getting a flour like powder from the crystals by simply pressing a credit card over the shards and rubbing it back and forth.

That's ok, no problem at all.
Thanks for sharing your credit card crushing technique.
 
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