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***Shaking a vial of LSD before dosing***

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thckaze

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ive searched high and low and cant find a direct answer so im asking here...
Does shaking a vial of Lsd/Distilled water mixer make a huge difference in potency of dosage? Due to the mixer and LSD being difference liquid density.
 
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It wont effect the potency or dosage but you will spend the whole trip shaking like a leaf, the virbratory fractal resonances will permeate the ether and you will be locked into that syncronas frequency with the LSD molecules.

I just made that up, Nothing will happen, shaking the bottle will have no effect whatsoever. :)
 
webbykevin said:
It wont effect the potency or dosage but you will spend the whole trip shaking like a leaf, the virbratory fractal resonances will permeate the ether and you will be locked into that syncronas frequency with the LSD molecules.

I just made that up, Nothing will happen, shaking the bottle will have no effect whatsoever. :)
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If the LSD is mixed with distilled water wouldn't the density of the water float to the top and lsd sit at the bottom?
 
thckaze said:
If the LSD is mixed with distilled water wouldn't the density of the water float to the top and lsd sit at the bottom?
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But you didn't ask that, you said "a vial of LSD", not "a vial of LSD diluted with distilled water"
 
yes sorry if i had a vial of pure LSD i wouldnt be asking silly questions... haha So yes a vial with lsd/distilled water.
 
Although I always shake it, it seems like it gets more potent over time if stored properly but that is probably because some of the liquid evaporates.
 
Out of curiosity to the people in this thread, are you getting legit vials of LSD-25, or is it just a home made vial taken with some kind of research chemical?

I'm only asking because in my area, I can't imagine having a vial of real LSD. Everything being sold is an RC liquid solution made into doses.

I've only had legit real LSD-25 one time, it was three liquid doses from a vial of needlepoint LSD. Went to the city with a friend and took her to the metropolitan museum, then we walked around Central Park till I brought her to her friend's party and I went home for the night. Most beautiful experience of my life, visuals were insane, and it had absolutely no body load what so ever. It felt like water flowing through my body cleansing my soul.
 
It's not that uncommon. I believe a lot of tabs are made from people who got vials. There's WoW blotters that taste like breath mints.
 
J.Wallace said:
Out of curiosity to the people in this thread, are you getting legit vials of LSD-25, or is it just a home made vial taken with some kind of research chemical?

I'm only asking because in my area, I can't imagine having a vial of real LSD. Everything being sold is an RC liquid solution made into doses.

I've only had legit real LSD-25 one time, it was three liquid doses from a vial of needlepoint LSD. Went to the city with a friend and took her to the metropolitan museum, then we walked around Central Park till I brought her to her friend's party and I went home for the night. Most beautiful experience of my life, visuals were insane, and it had absolutely no body load what so ever. It felt like water flowing through my body cleansing my soul.
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I find i often get more of a body load from LSD than the Potent RC Psyches myself. But a trip on LSD is completely fucking random anyway so you will get body loads in some trips and others you will feel as clean as clean could be!
 
PandaGun said:
I find i often get more of a body load from LSD than the Potent RC Psyches myself. But a trip on LSD is completely fucking random anyway so you will get body loads in some trips and others you will feel as clean as clean could be!
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Are you positive that is from legit LSD though? Because every single trip I've had has had a body load attached to it. Except for those 3 drops of needlepoint. Those 3 drops felt pure and clean as can be, like I said they felt like water. Every RC has felt weird and cracked out to some degree.

Even if you are continually taking pure LSD, would it really have body loads attached to it? I mean, it is just another chemical so at higher doses I'd imagine it can be overwhelming on the body as a whole, but I've never experienced anything near as a bad as RC's.
 
LSD definitely has a body load, albeit a quite pleasant one

When on high doses I feel like I'm melting into the couch and I don't want to move at all, feeling so lethargic - just want to bask in the glory.
 
champ said:
Although I always shake it, it seems like it gets more potent over time if stored properly but that is probably because some of the liquid evaporates.
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i don't know about that one champ...lsd degrades with direct light, air, and heat...so if the alcohol/water was evaporating your lsd crystal would be degrading...your liquid will over time change clear to a dirty brown / black colour...degredation...eat it all up before this happens

lsd does have a 'body load' but it should be pleasant...the above description of it felt like water flowing through my body is pretty good...did you get the fishes swimming through your fingers? :D
 
Once the LSD is mixed the first time, there should be no reason the water and LSD-25 should come undone again?
 
^^^the water molecules don't form bonds with the LSD molecules. it just dissolves it.

so in my opinion (i'm a biochemist and not an expert on LSD, i've never seen it in liquid form)...
the LSD could sink to the bottom, but i think that the solution is so dilute that it all stays pretty much suspended in solution.
i would think that it couldn't hurt to shake it up a tiny bit, so why not?

bottles of chemical reagent on my shelf in lab stay in suspension. that is, the powder that was dissolved STAYS dissolved. but i always give them a quick swirl to mix them up equally.

i bet it would be hard to notice a difference between shook and not shook doses :)
fun experiment though!
 
If anything, doing so is just an extra layer of comforting in knowing you did something that might make a slight difference in effects, even if it may as well just be placebo.
 
Yeah if the substance (LSD, a RC, or any other chemical) is indeed in solution (in contrast to supensions), it's going to be evenly distributed in the liquid. Unmixing is very unlikely for thermodynamic reasons (tremendous loss of entropy).
Substances "prefer" to be in states of low chemical potential and solutions have lower chemical potential than the seperate solute and solvent. Therefore soluble chemicals stay in solution, as long as ambient temperature, pressure, composition (ratio of solute to solvent) are constant.
Higher temperatures on one hand are advantageous because most substances have higher solubilities at higher temperatures. On the other hand high temperatures increase evaporation of solvent what in turn changes the composition. When enough solvent has evaporated (of course it happens at room temperature too) the solution becomes saturated and the solute starts to crystallize. At this point your vial does not contain a solution but a suspension of crystals in a saturated solution and dosing becomes totally incontrollable...

Anyways, when working with reagents I'm a shaker too :D It most likely doesn't do a thing but it won't hurt either. Just be sure the solution was prepared and stored in a reasonable fashion (dilute, appropriate solvent, tightly closed container).
 
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