Ok I'm new here but I was on opiates for five years total and stopped five weeks ago and to deal with the fatigue decided to try adderall ( a few months before this I tried it and was happy as hell off 30mg ) anyways I have tried every method there is to make it work better or whatever and have zero results , I don't take amps ever yet could take 100 mg and barely feel anything and for the life of me can't figure out why this is . If anyone knows or has knowledgable information that would be nice I have searched the web over and over with no results .
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Stimulants Adderall HELP
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rc_headache28
Bluelighter
Define how it feels at 100mg. Like no you get no euphoria Or do you get no stimulation or both? Tolerance always plays a role Opiates are stronger then Amphetamines and maybe the thrill is gone for the body and it wants more opiates. ( the body wants it not the head ) this is all theory But I do take 40 mgs of Addy everyday for over two years now. And 40mgs is not nearly helpful as it now when at one point it sparked my fuse and got me going. Just some thoughts Good luck though Keep clean my friend.
No I don't really feel any good affects from it , I actually feel more anti social and annoyed because I took so much . I feel like my dopamine is gone , I took vitamins in the beginning , all kinds of supplements , I was on Wellbutrin too and had some anxiety with the adderall so I stopped the Wellbutrin , my therapist told me to stop it anyways , but I have a friend that quit suboxone as well and he takes adderall everyday with no problem . It's just such a weird thing that I can't make sense of .
Epsilon Alpha
Bluelighter
Stim "enjoyment" is a vastly more complex result than "more dopamine". I've been working on this topic for a retardedly long time and the biggest factor I've found is 5HT mediation of responses.
rc_headache28
Bluelighter
Would 5 HTP help any. Maybe if you can get your body back on track with serotonin The addy will achieve the desired affects? Just a thought Again I am no chemist/doctor
jones-in_J
Bluelighter
I hear drinking baking soda water potentiates adderal greatly
Weird but true. Drink 30 mins before dosing i think right guys?
Weird but true. Drink 30 mins before dosing i think right guys?
chelated magnesium works well with all aspects of amphetamine use...baking soda does potentiate it (for most people) but it will also potentiate the LEVO amp in adderall which is very unpleasant and it will also prolong duration of adderall which can be annoying...
Do you maybe think you're just an opiate/downer guy and you don't like uppers?
Do you maybe think you're just an opiate/downer guy and you don't like uppers?
I just bought magnesium yesterday after all the reading , do you take it with it or after I find so many things that say different things so I'm not sure , oh I'm a girl 
and opiates gave me an upper affect , I HATE downers lol and the baking soda thing I keep trying thinking this time lol and it doesn't help . This is becoming a medical mystery to me and I have been reading everything I can about amps and serotonin and dopamine . I have learned a lot of stuff but nothing that has helped me lol
and opiates gave me an upper affect , I HATE downers lol and the baking soda thing I keep trying thinking this time lol and it doesn't help . This is becoming a medical mystery to me and I have been reading everything I can about amps and serotonin and dopamine . I have learned a lot of stuff but nothing that has helped me lolI take 300 mg with my vyvanse and then another 200 mg four hours in.
Even if opiates give you an upper effect they are still CNS depressants (downers). Opiates are by far the most euphoric downer in my opinion (above benzos alcohol and others) and they do give some people upper effects, but I still don't really like them and would take an upper any day of the week over an opiate/opiod (yes I know I am part of a very small percentage popluation...lol everybody loves opiates and benzos and hates stims)
Had you ever taken stims in your past before you were addicted to opiates? Did you enjoy them?
Even if opiates give you an upper effect they are still CNS depressants (downers). Opiates are by far the most euphoric downer in my opinion (above benzos alcohol and others) and they do give some people upper effects, but I still don't really like them and would take an upper any day of the week over an opiate/opiod (yes I know I am part of a very small percentage popluation...lol everybody loves opiates and benzos and hates stims)
Had you ever taken stims in your past before you were addicted to opiates? Did you enjoy them?
Znegative
Bluelight Crew
I find adderall and Dextroamphetamine enjoyable, but it's really what you do while you're on them that effects the outcome of your experience. For instance, you can't just sit around on your ass when you're on amphetamine's, you got to work. In fact, I'm on adderall right now, and I'm finding moderating bluelight highly enjoyable.
I would like to mention that if you have the IR's, plugging is by far the best way IMO to take D-amp/amphetamine salts. The BA is incredibly high, the onset is fast, and the duration is long. I also find the effects to just feel a lot smoother. Just be carefull as the absorption increases by about 25%, so keep that in mind if you decide to take it this way.
I would like to mention that if you have the IR's, plugging is by far the best way IMO to take D-amp/amphetamine salts. The BA is incredibly high, the onset is fast, and the duration is long. I also find the effects to just feel a lot smoother. Just be carefull as the absorption increases by about 25%, so keep that in mind if you decide to take it this way.
I have tried stims before the opiates and actually od on rids for a stupid reason lol but now I take rids and they put me to sleep . I hate benzos and I know opiates are a downer technically but they made me happy I guess ... I'm for sure an upper person because I'm naturally lazy idk ... Maybe I'm add lol
tricomb
Bluelight Crew
jones-in_J
Bluelighter
Even if you were ADD you would still feel the Adderall, at low therapeutic dosages you would feel "normal" and with more (depending on you tolerance) you would get the euphoria and the classic amph high. And when I say normal I mean no more noise in your head, no more leaving stuff around all the time, no forgetting what you wanted to get from the refrigerator because while walking to it you got distracted, etc. If you are ADD you feel the difference.
Also you talk about 100mg, I'm not sure if you mean all together or through the day, but it's still a pretty big dose, in particular of you don't have tolerance from daily (ab)use of amphetamines. I remember reading here on BL from some wise dude that amphetamine is good up to 40mg, more than that the side effects get too annoying and I agree.
If you tried the baking soda already there are two options:
- Adderall is not for you, so you should try Dexedrine, which IMHO is so much better
- amphetamine is not for you. It sucks but can happen. I can take codeine and hydrocodone and not feel jack shit, other people don't feel amphs. Or only feel effects randomly. Or they feel it at first and then they stop working overnight, sometimes after years.
The brain is weird, so don't get too obsessed with this Adderall not working, if you can try Dexedrine, otherwise you have to find something that is not amphetamine.
Hey.
Just wanted to throw my two cents in. If this doesn't help I apologize. I agree with the poster who said that amphetamines may just not be for you. As a teen I took adderall and felt amazing at small doses. Now, however I cant feel a thing. No euphoria.. Nothing. Just my heart beating faster than normal. Btw I wouldn't recommend taking a dose as high as 100 mg either. Heart going into overdrive isn't a pleasant thing.
Hope this helped a little.
Just wanted to throw my two cents in. If this doesn't help I apologize. I agree with the poster who said that amphetamines may just not be for you. As a teen I took adderall and felt amazing at small doses. Now, however I cant feel a thing. No euphoria.. Nothing. Just my heart beating faster than normal. Btw I wouldn't recommend taking a dose as high as 100 mg either. Heart going into overdrive isn't a pleasant thing.
Hope this helped a little.
Yes maybe it's time to throw in the towel on amps ... Sorry yes rids -ritalin lol ... The side affects do affect me like anxiety and irritability but I don't feel like I'm going to die or anything , it's just crazy . I think I'm expected so much more so keep uppin the dose or eat them like candy when it's not going to do any good but hey I was addicted to opiates so that's a natural thing for me to do. I'll probably try it one more time at a low dose , if it doesn't work I give up . My brain has been a disaster from all the supplements and crap idk whether I'm coming or going anymore and it's kind of scary. Sorry I'm rambling lol
Epsilon Alpha
Bluelighter
Rail some modafinil and get crazy!
But seriously... modafinil can and will kick your ass if you dose too high. All of the stim obsession/motivation/tweakyness but no subjective mood boost to report.
I found it to be really nice for helping me get off other stimulants during the summer (need to gain some muscle mass).
I have read stuff about that , it's used for narcolepsy and stuff but idk if it has much recreational value so I don't know how I would get it , dealing with the opiate withdrawal fatigue and motivation crap is hard I wish a dr would prescribe something like that ..