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"I'm afraid you didn't get 15pts" - EADD Benefits Thread

My doc signed me off again today.

He was proper outraged @ the girocunts for dismissing his last sick note.
He told me that a sick note is a legally binding document. "I WONT STAND FOR THIS" his voice bellowed.

So great was my doctors rage, he asked multiple times for the name & number of the girocunt who dismissed his last legally binding document.
 
"We’re highlighting the hypocrisy of Atos, a company that soon may be taking disability benefits from the people winning medals for Team GB."

If you're fit and able enough to be in the paraolympics I suspect there is probably some form of work you could do? They seem to be inferring that disability living allowance is meant to be a life long form of compensation for getting a disability, rather than an increased amount of money for people who are unable to do any work for whatever reason.
 
Just 9% of your tax money goes to fund benefits and the welfare system. A fair amount of the other 91% finds its way into the pockets of the private plane set. Yet I never hear a saloon bar pundit or read a newspaper columnist bitching about scrounging defence contractors. Funny that. In North Korea, it is said, the masses are conditioned into approved thinking, makes you glad you're lucky enough to live here.
 
Just 9% of your tax money goes to fund benefits and the welfare system. A fair amount of the other 91% finds its way into the pockets of the private plane set. Yet I never hear a saloon bar pundit or read a newspaper columnist bitching about scrounging defence contractors. Funny that. In North Korea, it is said, the masses are conditioned into approved thinking, makes you glad you're lucky enough to live here.

17%... more than on education, and an identical amount to the NHS.

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/year_spending_2012UKbt_12bc1n#ukgs302
 
Ironically it was the introduction of the minimum wage which saw more manufacturing in this country close down and move to China under Labour than it did under Thatcher.

Although employment went up after it was introduced blunts.

The 1% you speak of was fully opposed to this measure.

But it was introduced at such a low level it didn't really make any difference - they were paying £3 an hour instead of £2.00. That's not going to bankrupt many buisneses.

During the boom we had to ship in millions of Polish people to plug the gap in the supply of workers...

Not quite, I can't remember anyone saying before the 2003 EU law that "What this country needs is millions of polish workers". It simply wasn't an issue. The government thought 13,000 would come.

But when you see people coming thousands of miles for work, sometimes tens of thousands of miles to work, it is quite easy to see that it is the benefit's systems fault that so many people have languished on benefits for so long.

Depends what you call "work" tho doesn't it. Sure, if you're willing to share a single room with 13 other flatulent east europeans and move to a new town every month to follow the work then yeah, perhaps you'll be able to cope. Try paying a mortgage and supporting your kids (never mind actually being able to see them) on fruit-picking work and you'll have problems.

Remember, before 2003 somehow all the work that needed doing in the UK got done. In fact the UK was doing quite nicely back then. Lets not rewrite history as if we were all sat round on the dole saying "Lets ship over 3 or 4 million immigrants".
 
"We’re highlighting the hypocrisy of Atos, a company that soon may be taking disability benefits from the people winning medals for Team GB."

If you're fit and able enough to be in the paraolympics I suspect there is probably some form of work you could do? They seem to be inferring that disability living allowance is meant to be a life long form of compensation for getting a disability, rather than an increased amount of money for people who are unable to do any work for whatever reason.

They probably are working. DLA is not an employment related benefit.
 
17%... more than on education, and an identical amount to the NHS.

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/year_spending_2012UKbt_12bc1n#ukgs302

I want to know where Charlie got his 9% because your 17% comes from a right wing fundamentalist loon.

Despite 35 years living in Seattle, I instinctively revolted against the suffocating left-coast culture of the Soviet of Washington, and came to revere the four great Germans who helped inspire the Reagan revolution: Ludwig von Mises, F.A. Hayek, Leo Strauss, and Eric Voegelin.
 
Does anyone know where I should go from here?

I got turned down for ESA because I'd been on ESA within the last 6 months.
They told me because of this I need to claim another benefit (they recommended JSA).

But I can't claim JSA because the doc has signed me off work for 3 months.
Does this mean I should apply for DLA?
 
I want to know where Charlie got his 9% because your 17% comes from a right wing fundamentalist loon.

Where did you get fundamentalist from? Or is that just a label you give people who hold opposing views to you? Look at how he has crunched the numbers and find criticism there, rather than expecting people to just accept a criticism of the person to nulify the figures. The figures on there are pretty much identical to the ones on the all hailed Guardian, which is full of left wing 'fundamentalist' loons, so you should be happy ;)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/apr/25/uk-public-spending-1963

[edit] I should probably add that if you look around for info on public spending the link I posted is the easiest to find by miles, it wasn't chosen because it's right wing or anything.

They probably are working. DLA is not an employment related benefit.

So if Richard Branson gets hit by a bus tomorrow he should get benefits?
 
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Cornish, need more details. Why was your ESA stopped? What exactly did they say about not being able to claim for six months?

I doubt you will be eligible for DLA. It's not an out-of-work benefit, it's to provide support and equipment for people with significant mobility or care needs. You need to be pretty ill to get it.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/apr/25/uk-public-spending-1963

So if Richard Branson gets hit by a bus tomorrow he should get benefits?

Sorry, I'm not really interested in talking about who should or should not be entitled to things. I'm posting in this thread because I happen to be familiar with (at least some of) the current law around welfare benefits, and I have a pedantic interest in trying to ensure there's not too much misinformation.

The presumption that because someone is claiming DLA they are therefore unemployed is simply wrong. If Richard Branson was disabled or chronically ill, he would be entitled to DLA. If he began to claim DLA, it would not mean that he was no longer working.
 
Sorry, I'm not really interested in talking about who should or should not be entitled to things. I'm posting in this thread because I happen to be familiar with (at least some of) the current law around welfare benefits, and I have a pedantic interest in trying to ensure there's not too much misinformation.

The presumption that because someone is claiming DLA they are therefore unemployed is simply wrong. If Richard Branson was disabled or chronically ill, he would be entitled to DLA. If he began to claim DLA, it would not mean that he was no longer working.

Ok, fair enough. I did make the incorrect assumption that it would be means tested in some way like pretty much everything else.
 
^ I'm not going to argue about the individual circumstances of people I don't know. Doubtless there are people out there claiming DLA fraudulently (although the DWP reckons it's less than 0.5% of claimants).

My advice to Cornishman was that the eligibility criteria for DLA are much, much more stringent than for out-of-work benefits and it's probably not worth applying for unless he is extremely unwell. Quite a lot of people are probably entitled to ESA but unaware of this and continue to claim JSA. I think most people who are ill enough to claim DLA know about it - you really have to have serious mobility issues, require a significant amount of care or be terminally ill. Possibly Cornish could claim DLA fraudulently - I wouldn't recommend trying.

Also, just seen this:

I would like to thank you & Marmz for your input in this thread. Your links & up to date knowledge has been very useful . I was very well versed in the old system & need to get this knowledge , i hate it as it makes me very anxious but it's real this time so it can't be ignored.

It makes me very anxious, too. Anyway, thanks, brimz, appreciate your input and experience a lot as well.
 
I would like to thank you & Marmz for your input in this thread. Your links & up to date knowledge has been very useful . I was very well versed in the old system & need to get this knowledge , i hate it as it makes me very anxious but it's real this time so it can't be ignored.

Brimz if its making you anxious get down the doctors. Tell him you need to see a psychiatrist if you're not under one at the moment.Ask to see a consultant. Ask for cbt and all that malarky.Get it all written down. The pills work to a degree but you need more help. The more records they've got of you seeing someone for your condition the better. Its not as if you're lying is it.
 
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