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Codeine & CWE Megathread: Version II - [insert witty title]

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there's a few reasons i stopped using codeine with smack, the number one being my laziness. doing a cwe takes time, buying it, filtering somewhere, having to cart the equipment and the returns are limited. buying and using smack also takes times and i guess because i had money i just decided that i only had time for that. also i didnt have much spare time to use, i was working full time, starting at dawn and usually finishing pretty late, only had a small window to buy and use in. i didnt have any smack buddies other than the occasion friendly junkie but no one i really related to in terms of how much and how hard i was using, everyone was a either too hardcore or were a friend and didnt use and didnt like me using so i kept it hidden for the most part. not something im particularly proud of but thats drug addiction. also ive always viewed codeine as inferior, ive never really enjoyed the high and due to my sensitivity its never been something ive ever sought to use except as a means to stop or ease wd's when cleaning up or to cheaply increase the return from stronger opiates. i much much prefer heroin but its almost impossible to sustain an addiction unless you are making a good 4 figure weekly paycheck, thinking back i should have kept using codeine to potentiate but honestly i was obsessed with smack and only had time and energy for it, all other drugs apart from the big opiates were just crud in my eyes.

one thing i notice with codeine, pst and tramadol is that i prefer a low, subtle high with them. with codeine im happy on two 30mg pills, its very mellow but still has that nice tight chested, slightly dirty, kind of tactile euphoria to it, as well as a nice mood lift. pst even more so however the nausea and headaches i get are usually too much for me to handle after a day or two. with heroin i found i could never really enjoy it unless i was nodding to the verge of unconsciousness, anything less and i just wanted more and thats both dangerous and fucking expensive to do at least once everyday. also i totally agree with you about how on smack you sober up very quickly with almost no lingering buzz, all of a sudden the euphoria seems to wane and then you're left unsatisfied and wanting more immediately. thats something that i always found frustrating, if you have money and a nice stash then redosing to your hearts content is great but if you're a struggling addict its pretty fucking depressing. pst on the other hand lasts for a good 5-6 hours for me, its nowhere near as mind bendingly euphoric but at least it keeps you satisfied, i can see how it could mix very well.

you dont shoot either eh? any reason for that? i was constantly encouraged by other addicts to shoot up, both as a way to make the most out of your gear and because it brings the pleasure of smack into a whole new ball park. i shot up a few times but was always a bit iffy about it, i dont have a problem with needles at all, in fact i find there purposefulness fascinating, like machine guns or racing cars. i have a problem with dying, getting infections, embarrassing scars and going further down a road i was already way over my head on. also im inherently lazy and having to go through the whole rigmarole of buying gear, getting needles, finding somewhere to shoot and then fixing up, potentially missing shots and fucking around more than i already had to more work than it was probably worth to me. i got plenty from racking up, its fast, pretty stealthy and at least somewhat safe. and still hits you pretty hard, hard enough to fall off park benches or have a dog take a piss on you. i also liked smoking a small amount, just because it was fun and requires a bit of skill.

codeine is a godsend when you need it though, im using both 30mg pills and cwe's now to ease the PAWS im riding out after jumping off suboxone, without it work would be hell and sleeping worse than it already is. figuring out that cwe's were a massive help for smack withdrawals was also a great day for me, it made a shitty situation so much more bearable. when i got to new york in pretty bad wd's a couple of years ago i went to the pharmacy hoping to get a pack of generic ibu/codeine only to find its not OTC there, it was heartbreaking. luckily opiate pharms might as well be OTC there and before i knew it i had a handful of oxymorphone, mmm mmm.
 
A lot of people seem to rate prometh on here, for me the sedation from it is too heavy and lethargic, ive written off two days on 25 mg of it with 150mg of codeine, a pretty low dose by most peoples standards. I find 50mg of diphenhydramine more euphoric and less heavy when used as a potentiator.

What about mixing codeine with stronger opiates and kind of using the codeine as the potentiator? I used to really enjoy 200mg of cwe'd codeine with .1 - .2 heroin taken nasally (with tolerance), the codeine helped load me up and the combination was a lovely mix of a clean heroin high mixed with the rougher, less refined euphoria of codeine.


I always dose my codeine and dxm together before I have any opiates, I find that it really really potentiates the high. Without codeine I dont even like to take any hard opiates, it just lacks something that I cant quite put my finger on. Right after my usual cod/dxm dose Id have a small line of H (bout 20-30mg). The combination of that knocks me on my ass that's for sure. Geez my nose is so itchy :P Cant stop scratching it hahaha

cassandragemini: 700mg is a lot but when your tolerance rises so high thats what happens, same with everything else. Im happily doing 20mg lines of H where as I have mates that are IV-ing 400-500mg H in a single dose. I know thatd definitely kill me and many others. Tolerance is a bitch, my days are long gone where I used to nod off 700mg codeine which felt better than 20-30 of oxy with zero tolerance. Nowdays that 700mg bearly has any effects. As time goes by your natural toelrance increases as well so even though you take a big break the tolly will still be higher than for someone who just started. Alternatively you have the poor metabolizers who need a lot more than others to get a great buzz going.
 
But you cant squeeze out the remaining codeine from the pill mass using that method:S

codeine is highly water soluble; this pill mass you're left with is binders and fillers used in each separate preparatio, ie - apap, ibuprofen, etc.
 
Yeah I see what you mean, if i really tried im sure i could get up there, its just not something that im naturally inclined towards i think. Ive heard people say that nodding on codeine is their favourite of all opiate nods. Interesting that both you guys like to mix codeine in, it seems to be one of those aquired tastes people develop when really getting into the nitty gritty of a drug. I can't do speed or meth now without benzo's to counter balance the high, the right mix of the two is great and now that I've had it I can't go back. I cant believe you get anything out of so little h with such a solid codeine habit. I don't doubt you do, its actually pretty god damned sweet seeing how much the stuff can cost. I have to say though how good is getting a nice hit of h when your sick as hell, nothing compares to heroin when your addicted as fuck and hanging out. When something becomes your number one priority and you get it its satisfying on a whole other level. The transition between sick and then on top of the world is something I can't explain to people when they ask.
 
with the more recent research thyat shows 80% of codeine is conjugated with glucuronic acid to Codeine-6-glucuronide (C6G), which is the metabolite that is most responsible for codeine's analgesia (source) is a possibility of why people like the combination (synergism) of heroin and codeine; especially those who are extensive metabolizes of codeine.
 
codeine is highly water soluble; this pill mass you're left with is binders and fillers used in each separate preparatio, ie - apap, ibuprofen, etc.

Yeah we all figured that but a lot of the times the actives get trapped in the filter or the pill mass absorbs it. Not every single mg of codeine will be sitting in ur water that's for sure. I get way better results squeezing out every last drop from the filter, and its also a very wise idea to do a 2nd wash to get the remaining codeine out of the junk.
 
Will have to set aside some extra time for a second wash, its preety annoying when 6 - 700mg+ does barely anything for an hour tops even mixed with DPH/prometh/benzos ect too bad oxys r so hard to come by *sigh*

Is a third wash really worth the effort/extra APAP?

Oh well Lucy never lets me down, I think a visit to her is in order ;)
 
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I wouldnt bother too much with a 3rd wash, the returns arnt really worth the effort as the first and second wash extracts everything out pretty much, the downside with a 3rd wash is that ur using more water which increases the para/ibu content a little bit.
 
I've tried CWE plenty of times on 40+ pills and it's never worked (shirts, coffee filters, double filtration, freezer etc.) and it just doesn't get me high. I take 6 Panadeine Extra's and I'm high as fuck. Don't know what I'm doing wrong.
 
even performing a 2nd wash doesn't result in much of a difference from my experiences.

if you really do think you are losing that much through your extractions then splitting them into smaller portions to extract will save some piece of mind.
 
I'm using cheap Ibuprofren/Codeine brands, I dissolve them in water, filter through a shirt, squeeze, then put that solution through a coffee filter and it comes out looking like milk. Even if I filter again, it will still look like milk. Is this safe?
 
I'm using cheap Ibuprofren/Codeine brands, I dissolve them in water, filter through a shirt, squeeze, then put that solution through a coffee filter and it comes out looking like milk. Even if I filter again, it will still look like milk. Is this safe?

Yeah mate... As long as the water is cold, your tek sounds just like mine, except that i use para brands.

The white shit is just the fillers... I have tried all of the ibu brands and have never been able to get the water anywhere near clear.

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Yeah I drank it anyway and I'm still alive! Just downed a bottle of Riko and damn what a cheap and easy way to get fucked up!
 
I'm using cheap Ibuprofren/Codeine brands, I dissolve them in water, filter through a shirt, squeeze, then put that solution through a coffee filter and it comes out looking like milk. Even if I filter again, it will still look like milk. Is this safe?

check the ingredients on the box. some ibuprofen containing items have titanium dioxide which is responsible for that milky colour left over after extraction.
 
I have had bad experiences with sorbitol but I've figured if you eat beforehand, drink it and then eat again, you'll be fine. I had a great sleep last night which is pretty rare for me.

CWE still didn't do that much for me, oh well.
 
I have had bad experiences with sorbitol but I've figured if you eat beforehand, drink it and then eat again, you'll be fine. I had a great sleep last night which is pretty rare for me.

CWE still didn't do that much for me, oh well.

If you take Codeine on an empty stomach then it wont kick in at all, u need to wait at least 4-6 hours after eating something to take it to be the most beneficial. That could be a possibility why u didnt feel it. PS: I wouldnt even consider drinking rikodeine or anything similar unless u wanna feel shit. If u felt the rikodeine or w/e then ud feel the CWE if done correctly. Took me a handful of times for it to work on me properly. Ive had the best highs from codeine pure bliss:)
 
Do you mean if you take codeine on a full stomach Sustanon? A cwe will be absorbed better on an empty stomach, though if using ibu/codeine pills I'll always eat a small bite of something to stimulate gastric acid production and mitigate the risk of the ibu causing an ulcer.
 
Do you mean if you take codeine on a full stomach Sustanon? A cwe will be absorbed better on an empty stomach, though if using ibu/codeine pills I'll always eat a small bite of something to stimulate gastric acid production and mitigate the risk of the ibu causing an ulcer.

Opps yeah I meant if u take it on a full stomach it wont kick in at all (I really have to stop posting when Im intoxicated lol)
 
it does kick in, it's just not absorbed as efficiently. your enzymes simply don't go on strike and say "nope, not processing this codeine, i'm too packed full of the lamb mum served up for lunch"

as footscrazy said, the effects will be dimished in comparison to that os dosing on an empty stomach.
 
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