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[Semi HippyFlip Question] Safe to combine MDAI and 4HOMET ?

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Achten

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Hi,

well, title says it all actually.

I was planning on a little trip to Heaven, and instead of using MDMA and mushrooms, I was thinking MDAI and 4HOMET.

Plan would be:

T-4h: Last meal
T0h: 125mg MDAI
T+0h30: 10-15mg 4HOMET

If all goes well I would add

T+1h30: 40mg MDAI
T+2h: 2-5mg 4HOMET

Any reason why I should not do this ?

Erowid doesn't have a report of these two combined, even not MDMA and 4HOMET or MDAI and mushrooms, so that's why I ask here.

Please help me fly through space ! ;)
 
I imagine it would be less profound than an actual hippy flip. I doubt this combo has been explored too often so I would tread lightly.
 
Yeah that's why I ask. The plan is not conversation with entities but "just" a euphoric, colorful night with 2 close friends, watching the city's fireworks from my balcony, listening to Paul Kalkbrenner !

edit: for the record I will say that I have "extensive" experience with both substances seperately, 150+50mg being my fav MDAI dose and 20 + 5mg being my fav 4HOMET dose.
 
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Havenn't tried 6apb, is it also a monoamine/serotonin releaser ?
 
Thanks all ! I will report back about this in a month and a half or so.
 
Achten said:
Havenn't tried 6apb, is it also a monoamine/serotonin releaser ?
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6-APB is an analogue of MDA and acts similarly to it. Whereas MDAI is pretty much purely serotonin release. 6-APB + 4-HO-MET is going to probably be more similar to a standard hippyflip with MDMA + Mushrooms than MDAI + 4-HO-MET would be - but I could see a good dose of MDAI potentially being better in certain environments since it would be more serene and lovey, and less energetic and jittery - which would combine great with any 4-substituted tryptamine :D

loremipsum said:
i'd honestly try to hippyflip with methylone instead of MDAI. but maybe thats personal because in my experience MDAI was just complete dirty bunk.
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I'd say it depends on the individual's experience with each drug. For me I wouldn't really want to use Methylone in combinations with psychedelics any more. It's a great high, but much more ego-boosting like cocaine than MDMA, 6-APB, etc - and the comedown is quite a rough one that doesn't combine well with a still tripping/afterglow state.
 
loremipsum said:
i'd honestly try to hippyflip with methylone instead of MDAI. but maybe thats personal because in my experience MDAI was just complete dirty bunk.
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Dirty? Are you sure you've had pure MDAI? It's just straight up serotonin release, it's mild and pleasant but given that it doesn't have any of the dopamine or noripinephrine action of triple releasers it seems odd that one would describe MDAI as "dirty" - there's almost no edge to it.
 
I've had an intensely terrible heart-rate issue when i combined 16 mgs. 4-aco-dipt with 80 mgs. MDAI. the most my heart-rate has ever gone up until that point was 120 BPM. for 2 solid hours my heart-rate went to 160-165 BPM. while not exactly a fatal reaction, it still scared the absolute shit out of me and was the only time i actually called paramedics for help.
I may be sensitive, but you might be too.
After my experience I would never try anything like it again, but if you do, just start very low and watch how you react to it your first time.

oh, and for the record, neither aco-dipt or MDAI makes my heart-rate go past 90 on their own, so it was definitely an issue of synergy.
 
Not that it's safe, but I've combined low doses of 4-FA with 4-HO-MET and everything turned out fine 'n dandy. The key is keeping everything in the "low" range. Might want to have a sedative on hand in case it gets ugly.
 
Oh man, this is a devine combination my man! Here is what you do:

Orally ingest 150mg of MDAI, be sure ofcourse not having benzo or so in your system which will kill the serotonin.

1.5 - 2 hours later, do the 4-HO-MET...

ENJOY MY MAN - ENJOY!

I call this bubble, "Angel eyes!"
 
I promised to report back on this combo, and here it is.

T0h: 130mg MDMA
T+1h: 8mg 4HOMET
T+1h30: 40mg MDMA
T+2h: 4mg 4HOMET
T+2h30: 3mg 4HOMET
T+6h: 0.5gr dried mushrooms
T+7h: 0.5gr dried mushrooms.

Wonderful travels to the soul. Five of us participated, no one had any bodily issues, except for one member throwing up at T+8h, which was probably not due to substances, but due to inner physical stress manifestating psychologically, and the body being not fed/hydrated enough. We had fruit salad for power food but this member didn't eat from it.

Watched fire works from our balcony, listened to Gesaffelstein, Gui Borrato, Jefferson Airplane and watched nature documentaries.

I feel good ! Like a Christmas tree, all lit up inside !
 
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