All Things Fitness/Gym/Aesthetics 2012: So Homoerotic!

[Urbain]

I've pretty much lost most gains that I had previously, due to shortening my sessions, and lack of protein in my diet. Though I plan to get crazy on the protein powder when I get paid, and going to sort out my energy levels. I do too much cardio to have any noticeable gains, unless I eat like a horse. Insufficient funds have stopped me doing so lately.. Not too bothered, as I love love my running.

Started doing abs for every workout though, and despite them killing me most days, they are coming along well!

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

I've pretty much lost most gains that I had previously, due to shortening my sessions, and lack of protein in my diet. Though I plan to get crazy on the protein powder when I get paid, and going to sort out my energy levels. I do too much cardio to have any noticeable gains, unless I eat like a horse. Insufficient funds have stopped me doing so lately.. Not too bothered, as I love love my running.

Started doing abs for every workout though, and despite them killing me most days, they are coming along well!

Why don't you figure out how to add more weight to your abs workouts instead of over training them? Pr0s don't get good abs by doing a thousand crunches every day, they get them by going on a decline bench with a 25kg plate on their chest :D

 

[Urbain]

Why don't you figure out how to add more weight to your abs workouts instead of over training them? Pr0s don't get good abs by doing a thousand crunches every day, they get them by going on a decline bench with a 25kg plate on their chest :D

Pr0. Hahaha. Perfectly happy with what im doing at the moment

 

[effie]

Haha, the face and personality are what I used to snare my other half - now working on the body as my wedding gift to him. I call him my hubby but we're not actually getting married for another two years yet, so am trying to get thin and fit so that a) he's got something nice to look at and parade round on his arm and b) we can live long healthy lives together, hopefully. Think I'm doing pretty well so far, diet's going really well, it's just motivation to exercise that's a constant battle. One thing that does bother me though is my tits, I'm a 36E at the moment, and the more weight I lose, the worse they look, obviously. Don't wanna go down the implant route but I can't help worrying that they're going to need... rearranging... somehow. Working my chest seems to help but there's only so much it CAN help, surely.

(thinking I am now hijacking the wrong thread haha, but I only really bother reading EADD so you might have to put up with me a bit longer )

I was always hugely jealous of your tits you know I'm really not sure much can be done about volume loss when you lose weight.. decent bras/corsets are probably your best non-surgical option!

Glad the fitness ting's going well I've still really not started yet but intend to sign up to a gym class any day now. Eyeing them up to see which one looks best.. going to try to go swimming a couple of times a week too. My genius idea to walk a few miles to work and back every day has fallen through now work's less than 10 minutes away haha..

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Pr0. Hahaha. Perfectly happy with what im doing at the moment

Yeah but to me, this is like me watching you eat your chinese take away with a single chopstick, then offering you another one, and you turning it down Once you'd mastered eating with two chop sticks I could then even introduce you to a knife and fork and your mind would be blown

Joking aside, fair play if what you're going for is endurance abs. You never know when you're going to have to bring your head to your toes a couple of thousand times, and it's always best to be prepared

 

[rockstar 69]

Have to agree with MSB but Urbain never mentioned doing unweighted ones and based on the fact he knows his way around a gym I'm pretty sure he won't be just doing straight sit ups, which are a waste of time.

I got bored so I've been doing sets of 30 wioth 7.5kg weight. I usually do 100 with the 5kg ball every other day at gym, and 3 sets of 20 on the crunch machine with 10kg weight on it.

Gonna get back on the carribbean twists next abs work out in the gym.

 

[Urbain]

Joking aside, fair play if what you're going for is endurance abs. You never know when you're going to have to bring your head to your toes a couple of thousand times, and it's always best to be prepared

Joking aside, but sarcasm on the table. Gosh, you are a prick. Have you fucked Spade yet?

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Joking aside, but sarcasm on the table. Gosh, you are a prick. Have you fucked Spade yet?

Hahaha, to be fair to you it is my own fault. I always assume that satirically reflecting people's misguided behaviour back at them is the best way to show them how stupid they're being, but I should know better. I really do lose a little more hope in humanity when hubris stops people from adopting new ways of doing things that are proven to be more effective and easy. It's your loss either way, and if it's a choice between being a prick for trying to teach a moron, or being a moron, i'll choose being a prick every day of the week and you can carry on being a moron

 

[swedger77]

moron v prick........tough one.

not sure what id rather be, probably neither.


Your all wrong anyway...................everyone who knows anything about the gym knows that yon need a gut buster for a perfect 6 pack

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Have to agree with MSB but Urbain never mentioned doing unweighted ones and based on the fact he knows his way around a gym I'm pretty sure he won't be just doing straight sit ups, which are a waste of time.

I got bored so I've been doing sets of 30 wioth 7.5kg weight. I usually do 100 with the 5kg ball every other day at gym, and 3 sets of 20 on the crunch machine with 10kg weight on it.

Gonna get back on the carribbean twists next abs work out in the gym.

If he's doing proper weighted ab exercises every day then that would be even stupider. It's a typical over zealous beginner thing to do either way. I see (or saw before I got my own gym) these people in the gym every day, getting no where slowly. I even was one for about a month when I started before I began to do some actual research into what I was doing.

 

[swedger77]

^ the fucking oracle

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

No, I just wanted to help. But it's clearly not wanted!

 

[rockstar 69]

He is right though. I never saw the every day bit. You will get a little progress doing that cos I used to do 100 sit ups every morning, but it's not as good as 2 sets of weighted sit ups, 4 sets weighted stomach crunches say twice a week.

 

[Treacle]

What if you've gained four stone, then you do sit ups? I would say that's just as good as doing weighted ones.

Also, I know only a rough answer can be given on this - but, how much muscle can a person, doing two decent workouts a week, gain? I'm definitely looking musclier, but the scales say the same as when I started, 3-4 months back. Is it possible to gain muscle/lose fat at the same rate? I know muscle weighs more, so if I'm seeing gains, I must be losing body fat - no? Could someone training hard even gain weight, via muscle, whilst losing fat? As an aside, the BMI chart is a bag of shit. It doesn't take any muscle into account. I look fucking ill, when I'm in my target BMI. I reckon it gives people complexes.

 

[ColtDan]

found situps so boring, i managed to get a 6 pack just doing cardio, pull ups and chin ups, kept my legs raised a bit, could never be assed with situps

 

[rockstar 69]

You won't get a decent 6 pack without working out your abs. But it's cardio in the end that will reveal it.

 

[Furious George]

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[rockstar 69]

Yawn can we not just leave all the arguing of one thread. The rest of BL is cluttered enough with it.

I'm just tweaking my programme a bit. Had a really good back and biceps work out this morning. I'm thinking they go pretty well together.

Does anyone know, like if I did chest/biceps monday, legs/calves tuesday, back biceps wednesday, day off thurs, shoulders/triceps friday is that 3 days of mon, tues and wed on the trot ok seen as I'm doing my lower body between them will that be enough rest? Or would it be better taking the wednesday off?

I've decided I'm definately going down to 4 days a week. Think I've been overdoing it tbh.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

MSB, why do you always have to be a prick about things?

Urb just said he’s “doing abs for every workout” and “they’re coming along well!”. And that he’s “Perfectly happy with what I’m doing at the moment”. He said no more about it. But you just can’t resist slapping on your smug tosser hat and typing away: “Why don't you figure out how to add more weight to your abs workouts instead of over training them?” “this is like me watching you eat your chinese take away with a single chopstick” Let’s all learn from you eh? The forums resident Wise Man ready with his pearls, you just know so much more than the rest of us don’t you fella? How do you even know what he’s doing? He never detailed his routine.

As for your advice, how is training abs with additional weight going to prevent the imagined overtraining? You either overload the muscle group or you don’t, regardless of whether that’s volume (and it’s not like ab work is wearing on joints) or intensity. You either allow a sufficient recovery period or you don’t. He might only be training twice a week. He might be training with weights already. He might be looking for sport specific improvements rather than just bodybuilding. You really didn’t have much to go on, but you’ve written your insulting, snide posts regardless. He’s a Moron because he doesn’t want to engage with a guy like you on an internet forum? I think he’s pretty smart.

I wasn't a tosser at first, I was just offering advice on the basic fundamentals of bodybuilding/workingout/sport. Then he got shirty with me, so I got sarcastic. I've seen his previous workout regimes, which have involved working and running at least 4 days a week. I didn't give out this advice to start an argument, I just thought i'd point out some very very basic fundamentals. If you don't know that your muscles grow during recovery, and not during working out, then yes I do know more than you. We aren't arguing over opinion here, we're arguing over fact. But then, so will most children above the age of 5 on any topic. I can just imagine how smug you will think your children are when they come home and show you their times tables. If he is training with weights already then he really is over training if he's doing his abs that much. I will admit that I did make a few assumptions based on people like him at the gym, who generally go in - do a few bicep curls then proceed to do a thousand crunches, then maybe have a little jog, then go in the sauna. I also happen to know with 90% certainty that he works out so he can lift his shirt half way up his chest in a club, with a wkd in his hand, as a siren call to every munting orange slapper within spitting distance.

But I agree with RS. I would rather keep this bullshit out of this thread. If you can't handle being given sound advice, suck it up and fuck off. Don't take it personally that you're doing something that could be improved. If you think only morons engage with me, then both of you are more than welcome to not engage me, lest you realise that the statement you just made makes you a moron...

 

[rockstar 69]

I have to agree that the recovery is very important. I dare say it's what's been holding me back here. The orginal reply from MSB didn't really seem that prickish to me, the smiley at the end aswell. Was just constructive criticism with a bit of sarcasm, nothing wrong with it really. That's my opinion anyway.

Here's my new gym programme. I've cut back a lot on what I'm doing because it was simply too much and not enough recovery. I was inconsistent too, the programme was 5-6 days a week, one week I'd make 6 the next just 2-3, too all over the place really.

Monday: Chest/Biceps

3 sets of Flat Bench Press 8-10 reps
3 sets of Stomach Crunches 20 reps
3 sets of Incline DB Press 8-10 reps
3 sets of Incline Flies 8-10 reps
3 sets of Cable Cross 8-10 reps
21 Bicep Curls with EZ bar
3 sets of Leg Raises 20 reps
3 sets of Preacher Curls 8-10 reps

Tuesday: Legs/Calves

10 mins of Treadmill
3 sets of Squats 8-10 reps
3 sets of Romanian Deadlifts 8-10 reps
3 sets of Leg Press 8-10 reps
3 sets of Leg Extentions til failure
3 sets of Leg Curls 8-10 reps
3 sets of Calf Stands 8-10 reps


Thursday: Back/Biceps

3 sets of Deadlifts 8-10 reps
3 sets of Lat Pulldowns 8-10 reps
3 sets of Bent Over Rows 8-10 reps
3 sets of Dumbell Rows 8-10 reps
3 sets of Pull Ups 8-10 reps
21’s Bicep Curls with EZ bar
3 sets of Cable Curls 8-10 reps
3 sets of Barbell Curls 6-8 reps

Friday: Shoulders/Triceps

3 sets of Close Grip Bench Press 8-10 reps
3 sets of Shoulder Press 8-10 reps
3 sets of Upright Rows 8-10 reps
3 sets of Leg Raises 20 reps
3 sets of Skullcrushers 8-10 reps
3 sets of Pull downs 8-10 reps
3 sets of Weighted Stomach Crunches 20 reps
3 sets of Kickbacks 8-10 reps
3 sets of Dips 8-10 reps



I've been pondering drawing up a diet but I'm not that keen on calorie counting (takes the fun out of eating), plus I'm pretty sure my diet is good anyway.

Sups: Omega 3 fish oil, ginko, vitimin C, milk thistle, zinc. Impact whey protein, creatine, powdered oats, dextrose, l-glutamine, nuts.

Reckon I will get better results now I've calmed down the work out a bit. I'm just going sheerly for bulking til I feel fat becoming an issue.