Alcoholism discussion thread v. 5.0

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^^ me too, but i think 'functioning as a normal human being' probably doesn't include waking up at the community pool with socks on your hands ;) just my opinion haha. I've had my share of special moments like that. something is broken in me and what you've said, eotroll, resonates with me. i even went to a state funded genius kid school. didn't help one single bit. i remember wanting to do heroine by the time i was 8. something's just wrong in my head. i come from a loving, supportive family, am reasonably attractive and none of these things has served me one bit of good. it's like i HAVE to shit on and sabotage anything that might actually be good for me. BTW it shouldn't be funny, but that bit about the chair at the pool cracked me up. i had a friend who woke up sitting up in bed with food on her face not remembering we'd done the whole post-party denny's thing. that was funny too. but if booze was all full of humor and fun i wouldn't be on this thread... i feel like i'm in a speeding car headed for a brick wall.
 
^^ me too, but i think 'functioning as a normal human being' probably doesn't include waking up at the community pool with socks on your hands ;) just my opinion haha. I've had my share of special moments like that. something is broken in me and what you've said, eotroll, resonates with me. i even went to a state funded genius kid school. didn't help one single bit. i remember wanting to do heroine by the time i was 8. something's just wrong in my head. i come from a loving, supportive family, am reasonably attractive and none of these things has served me one bit of good. it's like i HAVE to shit on and sabotage anything that might actually be good for me. BTW it shouldn't be funny, but that bit about the chair at the pool cracked me up. i had a friend who woke up sitting up in bed with food on her face not remembering we'd done the whole post-party denny's thing. that was funny too. but if booze was all full of humor and fun i wouldn't be on this thread... i feel like i'm in a speeding car headed for a brick wall.

None taken. I found it hilarious too hahaha. First thing I thought when I woke up was "shit... I hope no1's seen me yet!" and I was laughing my ass off as I ran back to my apartment.
But it was 4th of July, so I went a bit overboard (as if everyday wasn't overboard). The last person that I was with said that when they asked me "why are you going to sleep out there?"
I replied with "It seems like a good idea."

Idk what the socks were for.. but I can imagine I thought I'd use them as mosquito protection. Especially since I had pants on and a long shirt on, in Florida, in the summer.
 
Fuck shits been hectic, everything in my life is changed, im doing ok.. not perfect but not out of contrlll, friday night without a kid to look after sems like the same thing gonna happen. Im in a shit spot thats the most i can say im tring to be well but still giving in within limits... dont expect anyone to care anyway after i boot from heere for a month or so. J us wanted to update.
 
Fuck shits been hectic, everything in my life is changed, im doing ok.. not perfect but not out of contrlll, friday night without a kid to look after sems like the same thing gonna happen. Im in a shit spot thats the most i can say im tring to be well but still giving in within limits... dont expect anyone to care anyway after i boot from heere for a month or so. J us wanted to update.

there's always someone that cares.
 
I've also been getting a little more fucked up than I'd like. Weekdays included. It hasn't been too awful I suppose, as I've been drinking smallish portions. But the craving's still there every day and it's getting a little fucking strong. And I can still drink enough to sedate a fat man, without getting sick, which isn't good because once I try and stop drinking for the night, the cravings just get so intense and that's when all the hell truly begins.

It's hard to fill that big hole where booze is supposed to go. Other substances just don't cut it, because thats just replacing one demon with another. Idk what we all need to do but I'd imagine loneliness and boredom are two of the keys to spurring a raging alcohol binge. Just need to find something new to occupy your time when youre not working or hanging out or whatever. It's completely easier said than done. But reading helps me get my mind off shit. And just lunchin to tv or movies can temporarily take up your time. Shit, when I can actually muster the focus to play a video game, they can help pass the time easily. Excercising and running is also great for channeling some of that excess rage. Shit lots of coffee and cigs can even help.

Everybody's different and it's difficult to say what will help you take up your own down time. But at least I think everyone needs to find a good friend or family, someone you can be frustrated and sober around when youre lonely and bored.
 
And once you get a case of the fuck its and start drinking heavily everyday, it's really difficult to stop those feelings until something bad happens to you. So when you're saying "fuck it I'm worthless and I'm just gonna die drunk" just remember that in a couple days or weeks or whatever, you most likely will get too drunk and make some kind of fool of yourself. Those horrible feelings of regret the next day just aren't worth it. So maybe we all just need to think of the regret we'll soon feel if we don't put the bottle down
 
Honestly man I just don't regret anything. I have no shame. I keep my composure very well though.
I think it's starting to become apparent that I've been drinking a lot. I've had a couple people say "have you been drinking? I smell alcohol."
When you drink 24/7 it becomes increasingly hard to hide. Not by actions, because I control mine very well.. but by the large amount of cans and empty bottles in the trash, and the smell.
 
And once you get a case of the fuck its and start drinking heavily everyday, it's really difficult to stop those feelings until something bad happens to you. So when you're saying "fuck it I'm worthless and I'm just gonna die drunk" just remember that in a couple days or weeks or whatever, you most likely will get too drunk and make some kind of fool of yourself. Those horrible feelings of regret the next day just aren't worth it. So maybe we all just need to think of the regret we'll soon feel if we don't put the bottle down

I've run into these kinds of consequences before, and the rational decision to make would be to quit drinking. Unfortunately, for me and for a great many alcoholics, it also reinforces the behavior as a need for escape. I made a fool of myself when drunk, I drink more to cope with the resulting shame. As I do this, I know for damn sure what I'm doing is foolish and irrational. But it's the almighty "FUCK IT" that has learned to take charge above all, especially after so many times, because the buildup becomes tremendous.

It's only after about 48 hours of sobriety, though, that I find the cycle is much easier to stop, and easier to understand from an objective point of view. Drinking then begins to feel more like a choice than a need. Then, it isn't the cravings that lure me back in so much as the constant overflow of negative thinking and melancholy, and just the conditioned response of seeking comfort in substances. Alcohol still appears to be the remedy, some kind of cure-all that nothing else has really competed with. And when in a drinking bout, any supply of alcohol always seems far too limited. No matter how much I drink, I'm never quite "there" yet. I'm always taking intent notice on how much alcohol I have left, how long it will last me, if I can remain inebriated until I fall asleep on the amount that I have, etc. It's as if my existence is as long as my last few waking hours before I pass out. Then the next day always comes and I have nothing. Right now it's morning, I drank last night, and I have nothing to drink and nothing, absolutely nothing to relieve this feeling, like there's a hole in my entire being. I cannot enjoy anything, I cannot fully exist, I can't quite feel like I'm alive, when that hole is empty. With sobriety, the reality of my life and who I am, who I've been, is clear as day. I don't drink for alcohol's sake. I drink to fill that hole, to get it out of the way, and to then exist as it seems like most everybody else manages to naturally. Leaving the house suddenly seems worthwhile, reading a book seems worthwhile, listening to music seems worthwhile, watching a movie or television show seems worthwhile. With enough alcohol in my body, it even seems like a good idea to apply for jobs and enroll back in school. My thoughts are not so rapid, and I can express them. I feel capable of being myself. Conversations are interesting and worth participating in. I can express what I really feel and think without fears and doubts piling up, and I can even make people laugh. I don't feel like a pathetic mental cripple. I don't feel like a stone, unwilling to speak or even move, and I don't have that constant nagging of wishing to be alone and/or asleep at all times.

And I'm sitting here, sober with nothing to drink and not a penny in my name, and I cannot sleep at all, and even if I could I'll just end up waking up and facing it again, sober. And I think about sleep, and how the only downside is that I still always end up waking up. And I know there's a way to never wake up again. I realize that the whole problem is being awake. And when I am awake, my goal is to cope with being awake, like it's some undesired condition. When I'm drunk, I don't feel like I'm coping with life one second at a time. It feels more like I'm enabled to live. I drink to resume living.

I don't know if this is just plain addiction, or if I'm also going crazy. I don't care if I'm going crazy. I want to get drunk so I can enjoy a book. Not so I can be overjoyed with a big group of friends at a bar. I want to get drunk so I can have a conversation, instead of being sober and a conversation is all about me trying to find a way out of it. I want to enjoy talking to someone, instead of just throwing out responses just to get through it, with each response, each spoken word, feeling like a challenge, a weight that I'm lifting off by forming the words and getting it over with, just to satisfy the other person until the next point I have to respond. I want to drink right now so I can walk down the stairs and coexist in the same room as a member of my family without feeling like I'm being crushed by thousands of pounds of pressure, that pressure being their mere presence, being in someone's company, but having to hide that anxiety so that they don't feel bad and/or mock me for it, like I'm doing something terribly wrong when I just really really want to be as alone and as unconscious as possible. I want to get drunk so I can resume feeling somewhat alive, and not existing as a fucking corpse.
 
blahman - That feeling your looking for can be found when your sober. I mean if you have been drinking as much as you say, you will be able to tap into that.

Look for a taper of benzos - maybe add a natural anti-anxiety supplement. Then don't put of drinking for the rest of your life, know it's your medicine and you can come back to it but your life is in danger.

Remember this feeling you enjoy, and it will come back to you. There is only so much in life you can go through before anxiety is never a problem again. You just don't care, even when your sober. You are who you are. Be proud.

Think like this enough and a drink may look tempting, but it will be a poison you can avoid for a long time.
 
Thanks :D
Tonight is my 2nd night home. I'm not even playing around anymore. I have too much to do in this life to waste any nights out, "relaxing".

Gotta have goals.
 
Iv never really stood a chance as I come from a long line alcoholics in my family, not that's it's an excuse, I'm really struggling at the minute, back to drinking 5 70cl bottles of vodka a week agen :( I'm horrible and depressed wen I haven't got or had a drink, I'm on the brink on fucking everything up, I have responsible job, and relationship but I kno if I keep drinking sooner or later someone's going to spot how bad it's become. I'm constantly tired, constantly look like shit, hate having the shakes. Jus I feel so much more alive wen under the influence, :(. Jus wish I cud feel like me without having to have a drink
 
give it a couple years. you'll be full of shame and regret. do the work now and fix yourself, it will save you a shitload of time and effort later.
I wish I could go back to my younger self and kept my wariness of alcohol. I never dreamed I'd quit speed just to be held under alcohol's thumb for years and years. Alcohol is an evil master and, ya, a few years in is when I started to have the shame and regret that only intensified and compounded upon itself until living seems(ed) [in my 2nd go after 5 yrs blissful sobriety] not an option anymore.

By blahman: And I'm sitting here, sober with nothing to drink and not a penny in my name, and I cannot sleep at all, and even if I could I'll just end up waking up and facing it again, sober. And I think about sleep, and how the only downside is that I still always end up waking up. And I know there's a way to never wake up again. I realize that the whole problem is being awake. And when I am awake, my goal is to cope with being awake, like it's some undesired condition. When I'm drunk, I don't feel like I'm coping with life one second at a time. It feels more like I'm enabled to live. I drink to resume living.

I FEEL YOU. Fuck - that's exactly how I am too. If I could just sleep forever then I'd be ok. I don't feel alive when I'm awake (unless I'm actively in recovery, which I'm not). But sleep is soooo fucking elusive these days. When I go to sleep I feel like I'm still awake and it sucks - I know that sounds weird and crazy, but it's how i feel. I haven't had a drink since Friday and I'm proud of myself for not stealing booze from my mom's yesterday. I almost did it. But I'm still thinking about when I can drink again. I have literally zero money (actually thousands in the neg!) which is why I haven't had alcohol recently. I'm 34 and have to ask for money from my mom for fucking food and cigarettes. i hate everything
 
I am done with this shit. I am seriously fucking done. I cannot exist as a drunk anymore. The sadness, the disgust, the pain, it's all overwhelming. With what I've done to my liver, I don't even know if I'm already dying. This shit is awful. Not one single drop of booze was worth this struggle. I have to stop this now. I can't live like this.

To anyone who is worried about their drinking and suffering from it, please stop now. Please do not end up where I am now. I've had seizures, I've been in hospitals, I've nearly died. It is a sick, fucked up drug. If I could go back in time to years ago, I would change fucking everything.
 
i never realized before pretty recently how much of my drinking was an escape mechanism for loneliness. i don't mean that it led to going out and hanging out with people, which it did, but that's not what eased the despair of being alone. the booze did. now i am lonely as fuck again and can't go back to drinking.
 
i never realized before pretty recently how much of my drinking was an escape mechanism for loneliness. i don't mean that it led to going out and hanging out with people, which it did, but that's not what eased the despair of being alone. the booze did. now i am lonely as fuck again and can't go back to drinking.

It works quite well at blocking out emotions such as these. That's why it worked for you. I know this is the dark side and everything, but as I said, a switch up to natural substances or a little herb, may do your body some good.

*snip*stop the triggering posts! ~ Vaya. In my mind, it's about making sure you don't die. I'm not a abstinence kind of person and truly believe nobody should be.
 
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Iv never really stood a chance as I come from a long line alcoholics in my family, not that's it's an excuse, I'm really struggling at the minute, back to drinking 5 70cl bottles of vodka a week agen :( I'm horrible and depressed wen I haven't got or had a drink, I'm on the brink on fucking everything up, I have responsible job, and relationship but I kno if I keep drinking sooner or later someone's going to spot how bad it's become. I'm constantly tired, constantly look like shit, hate having the shakes. Jus I feel so much more alive wen under the influence, :(. Jus wish I cud feel like me without having to have a drink

Coming from an alcoholic family is an excuse. Maybe not a great one. But it literally runs in your blood. It's so hard to control it but you have to rise up if drinkings causing you problems. You're stronger than the alcohol. Just try and consume less for now, or keep it to the weekends. It's horrible at first but after a while it does get better. You can feel like yourself when your not drunk. The key is to just not drink so much.

And of course there will be slipups and moments where you fuck up, but just don't regret it and start over fresh. You can handle it! And you'll feel better if you put your mind to it!
 
I'm not exactly sober anymore. Trying to drink only on weekends, with some weekday fuckups of course. Had a good 4-5 day binge and that really fucked with me. Still can't make it through the week without a ton of benzos. The sleep deprivation is really what fucks with you seriously. No way to have a positive attitude about anything when you've slept maybe 10-12 hours in 3 days
 
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