So i've been smoking the weed around here for a while. Only the dank, and so one day i notice that getting high seems really really weird and strangely intense. It always has so i was just curious. I put some small flakes into a marquis test, i understand it should turn purple/black? Well it turned black where the weed was alright, and the rest of it turned orange! I tested it with mecke, again, black where the weed was, yellow on the rest of the test! Then in the mandelin and it turned blackish brown. These results corresponded with synthetic cannabinoids here, http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...-for-stim-empathogen-2C-X-RC-s-amp-more/page4 These results are very unsettling, because i went through 3 different batches of dank and they all had the same results and felt strangely spicy! Like an older chemical like jwh-018 or something. Has anyone else ever tested their weed? Please don't close this thread, because i saw that happen to a similar one, i thought laced weed was just a myth too.... But surely these results aren't normal are they?!
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Laced Weed! Marquis/Mecke/Mandelin test
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Chainer
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Synthetic cannabinoids are now being used to lace shitty weed, yes. It is becoming more common. Lacing bud with other drugs is still almost non-existent, as it is not price efficient.
I'm not entirely sure what you hope to gain from this thread, though. Can you post pictures of your results? This mostly belongs in synthetic discussion, as we've mentioned this possibility in the past a lot. I'm not sure what you want us to do about it.
I'm not entirely sure what you hope to gain from this thread, though. Can you post pictures of your results? This mostly belongs in synthetic discussion, as we've mentioned this possibility in the past a lot. I'm not sure what you want us to do about it.
PriestTheyCalledHim
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Are the effects any different when you smoke the herb? I have never used any RCs let alone the synthetic cannabinoids; but friends of mine who have said how they're sort of like herb but not exactly like it and you can tell that it's different. If you think your herb is laced with an RC/synthetic cannabinoid I personally wouldn't use it or smoke it at all.
If you had PCP on your herb you would know it since you'd be able to smell it on the plant material and it would taste different when you smoked it or vaporized it. They don't put it on very good herb like dank/kind bud; but you'll find it on schwag or stuff that's worse than schwag.
Since people are now apparently lacing herb with the cannabinoid RC-which I have no desire to use at all and never have used-I'll just vape or smoke herb that I know doesn't have any of the synthetic cannabinoid RCs on it at all. I hope we eventually get medical herb in my state here on the east coast, or herb is decriminalized like it is in Spain where you can smoke at home or private places, and grow a few plants for personal use.
If you had PCP on your herb you would know it since you'd be able to smell it on the plant material and it would taste different when you smoked it or vaporized it. They don't put it on very good herb like dank/kind bud; but you'll find it on schwag or stuff that's worse than schwag.
Since people are now apparently lacing herb with the cannabinoid RC-which I have no desire to use at all and never have used-I'll just vape or smoke herb that I know doesn't have any of the synthetic cannabinoid RCs on it at all. I hope we eventually get medical herb in my state here on the east coast, or herb is decriminalized like it is in Spain where you can smoke at home or private places, and grow a few plants for personal use.
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Chainer
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If it is actually synthetic cannabinoids on the bud, the effects would be very different. Usually duration is much shorter, peak is much more intense, and come down is very pronounced.
Artificial Emotion
Bluelighter
I don't have much experience with synthetic cannabinoids but I would have thought an experienced smoker would be able to tell whether their weed had been sprayed with that shit. Who knows though?
nekointheclouds
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Im curious to hear the details of how that specific test works that the OP used. If dude did the test right and it is laced with synthetic canabinoids than i think it noted and put in the synth thread, having that info here in the interest of HR is important. But as Chainer said, there sint really anything we can do. It its street bud theres nothing you can do either, unless you want to confront your seller, and that's not on us.
And AE i agree, and seasoned pot smoker can tell the difference between a cannabinoid high and a real weed high.
And AE i agree, and seasoned pot smoker can tell the difference between a cannabinoid high and a real weed high.
Folley
Bluelighter
He used an ecstasy testing kit, but they can be used to test for any drug with the right ones.
From dancesafe.org:
Check here for a list of reactions for all kinds of chemicals, including synth. cannabinoids. It has pictures too :D
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...esults-for-stim-empathogen-2C-X-RC-s-amp-more
From dancesafe.org:
Check here for a list of reactions for all kinds of chemicals, including synth. cannabinoids. It has pictures too :D
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...esults-for-stim-empathogen-2C-X-RC-s-amp-more
Chainer
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ace thread, thanks folley
Artificial Emotion
Bluelighter
I never knew the Marquis reagent was simply conc. sulphuric acid and formadelhyde!
nekointheclouds
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This was actually something i wondered about myself...like...theoretically this is meant to test for chemicals. Well the test could simply be reacting to the THC on the bud....not a cannabinoid. I'm not very familar with how these tests work, and reading over that thread with the many examples is very helpful, but i somehow dont think these tests were meant to test actual cannabis...
Which is why i would really like the original poster to post pictures of the test and the bud used.
Well here are the pictures:
Decent looking nugs here
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/1030887.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/p0rn.png/
This was the result of a Marquis test, notice the weed turns black but everything else turns bright ass orange.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/1030877.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/1030878.jpg/
I also did a test with Mecke that i filmed.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/1030888.jpg/
Though i'd rather not share that unless its really necessary. This is the 4th different batch i've tested with the same results every time. I bought my tests from EZTest. Really curious if anyone has ever tested their weed for the hell of it. The results should apparently be purple to black from what i've read. And the fact that the weed turns black like its supposed to and the rest of the test turns orange... It just doesn't add up. Mecke came up yellow again, and mandelin brownish black, consistent with some synthetic cannabinoids. While the weed just turns black where its made contact for a sustained amount of time. And yes folley that is the very same link i used to compare my results to the synthetic cannabinoid's results. I can't seem to find where i read the marquis test is supposed to turn purple to black... But i know it seemed legitimate, i'll keep looking, should have saved it. The fact that the test turns a certain color where the weed touches it and a different color everywhere else is suspicious though, no?
The high i recieve is strange with all the weed that has tested this way, (4 batches). It has an INSTANT onset (like spice) and overwhelms me with powerful framing visuals and a rather unsettling comedown. This is the kind of high i've had through my 5 years of smoking ( haven't been smoking THAT long) although i have smoked homegrown and to be honest its hard to make a comparison and remember exactly what that high was like. But surely it was more relaxing and mellow than this. I had a particularly "extra spicy" batch that all my other friends confirmed was just plain fucking weird. I am almost convinced that most weed is laced around here and its kind of sickening. Now i don't really know if the results being similar to synthetic noids in the liquid and different where the weed is means anything. Would a duqenois-levine reagant only reveal the presence of THC? Thats what i've been thinking so i've been reluctant to buy it for the determination of the presence of synthetic cannabinoids in my bud. If anyone has tested some homegrown or otherwise VERY normal feeling weed with any of these reagants please let me know as well. Until then i will continue to buy more tests and look for more weed, and hope this discussion could help get the word out, and inspire people to dig for the truth behind strange weed, i'm sure its not just around here if anything is being laced at all.
Decent looking nugs here
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/1030887.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/p0rn.png/
This was the result of a Marquis test, notice the weed turns black but everything else turns bright ass orange.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/1030877.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/1030878.jpg/
I also did a test with Mecke that i filmed.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/1030888.jpg/
Though i'd rather not share that unless its really necessary. This is the 4th different batch i've tested with the same results every time. I bought my tests from EZTest. Really curious if anyone has ever tested their weed for the hell of it. The results should apparently be purple to black from what i've read. And the fact that the weed turns black like its supposed to and the rest of the test turns orange... It just doesn't add up. Mecke came up yellow again, and mandelin brownish black, consistent with some synthetic cannabinoids. While the weed just turns black where its made contact for a sustained amount of time. And yes folley that is the very same link i used to compare my results to the synthetic cannabinoid's results. I can't seem to find where i read the marquis test is supposed to turn purple to black... But i know it seemed legitimate, i'll keep looking, should have saved it. The fact that the test turns a certain color where the weed touches it and a different color everywhere else is suspicious though, no?
The high i recieve is strange with all the weed that has tested this way, (4 batches). It has an INSTANT onset (like spice) and overwhelms me with powerful framing visuals and a rather unsettling comedown. This is the kind of high i've had through my 5 years of smoking ( haven't been smoking THAT long) although i have smoked homegrown and to be honest its hard to make a comparison and remember exactly what that high was like. But surely it was more relaxing and mellow than this. I had a particularly "extra spicy" batch that all my other friends confirmed was just plain fucking weird. I am almost convinced that most weed is laced around here and its kind of sickening. Now i don't really know if the results being similar to synthetic noids in the liquid and different where the weed is means anything. Would a duqenois-levine reagant only reveal the presence of THC? Thats what i've been thinking so i've been reluctant to buy it for the determination of the presence of synthetic cannabinoids in my bud. If anyone has tested some homegrown or otherwise VERY normal feeling weed with any of these reagants please let me know as well. Until then i will continue to buy more tests and look for more weed, and hope this discussion could help get the word out, and inspire people to dig for the truth behind strange weed, i'm sure its not just around here if anything is being laced at all.
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thizzlemonster86
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dude just move to cali and wont have to worry about laced weed lol
skillet
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It looks like decent weed man, I doubt it's been sprayed with anything. Put some parsley or oregano or something in some marquis and see what happens. Sulfuric acid will turn sugar, paper to charcoal, the black is just from the weed being destroyed. The orange is just semi-burnt chemicals dissolving in the acid. Or if you have conc. sulfuric acid drain opener or something you could put a bit of weed in some of that, I bet it reacts the same.
Artificial Emotion
Bluelighter
Thin layer chromatography maybe would work and is relatively cheap and easy to use.