Really? I had what I thought was really good MDMA and the really good affects only lasted around 2-3 hours, then i was just buzzed for the rest of the time.
How can you tell when you're coming down? any signs to look for?
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Really? I had what I thought was really good MDMA and the really good affects only lasted around 2-3 hours, then i was just buzzed for the rest of the time.
How can you tell when you're coming down? any signs to look for?
Hapomen22
Bluelighter
Yeh bro that's normal, the peak on good clean molly usually lasts around 3 hours, then you start to comedown and feel tired (body wise), and you just wanna chill/buzz, I usually start to hallucinate on my comedown and just lay down and stare at the lights of cars and street lamps and enjoy the feeling of the wind blowing on my skin, I also see random objects as if they were humans but when I get near them I realize it was all in my mind and that it was just a trash can/parking pay station/car seat/construction barrier etc. (Some people don't hallucinate on comedown tho...). After 2 hours in my comedown (5 hours total) halucinations are gone and lights are pretty much back to normal and my eyes are still dilated but much less than on my peak.
So say I take 100mg E pill, should I just do 1/2 a pill to keep going or do a whole 100mg again?
Folley
Bluelighter
^ Um,.. who is telling you that your pill is 100mg lol? That sounds like some straight bullll shiiieeetttt from your dealer son.
Because in the US, it's probably more like 50mg... if it's even MDMA at all, which it probably isn't.... and in Holland, that pill is probably way more than 100mg.
Check your pill on pillreports.com, or if you still can't figure it out you can PM me with the name and location of your pill and I'll see if I can't give you a general ball park for dosing it.
Because in the US, it's probably more like 50mg... if it's even MDMA at all, which it probably isn't.... and in Holland, that pill is probably way more than 100mg.
Check your pill on pillreports.com, or if you still can't figure it out you can PM me with the name and location of your pill and I'll see if I can't give you a general ball park for dosing it.
Hapomen22
Bluelighter
Yeh I don't fck with street pills, 99% it will be laced with pipes or other shit or have no MDxx. Only pills I'll ever put in my body is Holland/NL ones.
Also @ the 1.5mg/kg, tell me how your average joe that gets X pills will know how to dose that? It's just straight impossible, because like that other guy said u would need 36mg for a redose, now tell me how ull scale that out if you don't know the purity of the E in the first place.
You're right, my suggestion is merely for tested mdma to be weighed with scales !
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=28694
I presume they are around the 100mg mark, the strength as the same as Pink Diamonds although the diamonds last maybe 15 minutes longer.
I weigh around 110kilos, so I am presume I need about 165mg of MDMA...that's at least 1.5 pills.
Am I right in thinking when you drop your first dose, that's as high as you're going to get, so it's important to get the dosage right?
Folley
Bluelighter
Oohh ok good lol, I thought you were from America for some reason... I must have been remembering someone else. Those squares should be good.
Correct... to a certain degree. The first dose is the most important, you can still get higher after that, but it will be a lot tweakier and full of side effects because your serotonin is released the most by the first dose, and anything after that is going to release more dopamine and norepinephrine, which you don't want.
I would probably take one and a little less than half of another. Don't pay attention to that KG/MG shit, that could lead you to dose unnecessarily high. No one should need more than 150mg of MDMA at once, and even that's a bit too much..
Just because you weigh more does NOT mean you need more drugs than everyone else.
Personally I would do a 125mg (one and one forth of a pill) dose with a 75mg redose an hour later, if you need it. That always works for me
Correct... to a certain degree. The first dose is the most important, you can still get higher after that, but it will be a lot tweakier and full of side effects because your serotonin is released the most by the first dose, and anything after that is going to release more dopamine and norepinephrine, which you don't want.
I would probably take one and a little less than half of another. Don't pay attention to that KG/MG shit, that could lead you to dose unnecessarily high. No one should need more than 150mg of MDMA at once, and even that's a bit too much..
Just because you weigh more does NOT mean you need more drugs than everyone else.
Personally I would do a 125mg (one and one forth of a pill) dose with a 75mg redose an hour later, if you need it. That always works for me
Really? Medical doctors and research scientists seem to disagree.
No-one needs any MDMA, ever. Some people are naturally more susceptible than others, people like different things. I know people who double drop Dutch pills, or do quarter grams of MDMA in a single bomb.
Folley
Bluelighter
So you bring them up on a harm reduction website... why? To cause trouble?
I know people that can do a gram of heroin in one shot. I don't recommend anyone take a gram of heroin though, so why the fuck are you telling him to dose the same amount that people with very high tolerances need to get a "high" that is completely inferior to anyone who actually waits for serotonin to regenerate?
Get out of here with that shit. That goes COMPLETELY against ALL harm reduction advice, EVER, and I'm quite offended you would even bring up something like that.
So you would like him to dose unnecessarily high? I don't get it. Because most MDMA users need 100-125mgs of pure MDMA, maximum.
Mark, listen to the people who want to help you. Not the people who like to start arguments over the internet for fun.
I didn't suggest he dose that high. I took issue with your claim that no-one should ever take more than 150mg of MDMA at once. Some find that to be an underwhelming dose. Claiming that I told him to take that high a dose is deliberately presenting an artificially weak version of my views, which is known as the strawman tactic, and is a logical fallacy. It doesn't make my argument weaker, it undermines your own. I'm not talking about people with tolerances, there's no analogy between daily heroin users with huge tolerances and MDMA users who prefer stronger experiences. I'm not talking about people who do MDMA all the time, I'm just talking about people who like a lot of MDMA. The title of this thread is "how much do you usually take?", I'm not going to self-censor and present a false view of the situation to preserve your prissy little reservations. I know you like to see yourself as an MDMA guru, but that isn't the case, and if you can't tolerate other people challenging your opinions on an open, public forum, perhaps you should refrain from posting them in the first place.
Folley
Bluelighter
Those people who prefer more than 150mg of MDMA have PROBABLY been using ecstasy for a long time, huh? IE, they have a tolerance, like a daily heroin user.
If you have pure MDMA you shouldn't need more than 150mg, obviously people with a "natural tolerance" or those who just want to get extremely fucked up can take more, but there is no reason to ever encourage someone to take ridiculous doses. Especially a new user asking for a good starting amount with some unknown pills.
It's just offending and there is no reason for it. Now if you said YOU liked doses higher than that, OK. But to encourage him to take a 165mg dose of pure MDMA at once is simply irresponsible when the recommended dose is 100-125mg for new users.
Some people are extremely sensitive to MDMA and can roll hard of 80mg, did you take that into account when you posted without thinking?
If you have pure MDMA you shouldn't need more than 150mg, obviously people with a "natural tolerance" or those who just want to get extremely fucked up can take more, but there is no reason to ever encourage someone to take ridiculous doses. Especially a new user asking for a good starting amount with some unknown pills.
It's just offending and there is no reason for it. Now if you said YOU liked doses higher than that, OK. But to encourage him to take a 165mg dose of pure MDMA at once is simply irresponsible when the recommended dose is 100-125mg for new users.
Some people are extremely sensitive to MDMA and can roll hard of 80mg, did you take that into account when you posted without thinking?
Folley
Bluelighter
You imply that he should follow the KG/MG method and take a whopping 165mg dose at once, and then you go on to say that your friends can take 250mg at once and be fine.
For what reason? Just for the sake of disagreeing with me? Yeah, I'm done here.
For what reason? Just for the sake of disagreeing with me? Yeah, I'm done here.
Yeah, he should take more than most, because he's a big lad and he'll need that much to get the same effects as others would at a lower dose. And frankly, I thought you were chatting shit, so I called you on it. That's sort of the point of a discussion like this.
Folley
Bluelighter
I know of one "big lad" who can roll harder than most of us off of 100mg every time, and even rolled hard at 75mg.
Weight alone doesn't necessarily mean you need a higher dosage.
There, is that more suitable to your tastes? Completely pointless.
Weight alone doesn't necessarily mean you need a higher dosage.
There, is that more suitable to your tastes? Completely pointless.
HHazard20
Bluelighter
when i first did MDMA, i feel i was getting very very pure shit. .1-.12 would get me rolling pretty decently. .2 would insure puking. this was 2006. in the past 4 years i feel molly has slowly gotten shittier and shittier, but i think that whatever its usually being cut with in my area isnt nessesarily speedy or "dirty" shit, but rather something inactive. these days i usually take .2 just to get rolling barely. it sucks. I really wish i buried a couple grams of that years ago.
Hapomen22
Bluelighter
I agree with Folley, nobody should need more than 150mg IF they didn't built a tolerance or have a natural tolerance to MDMA.
I'm very lightweight (110lb), and my molly is very pure, 125mg one dose, would be me fucked up rolling harddd. Weight doesn't mean shit, it's about your metabolism and how you body reacts to the substance.
I'm very lightweight (110lb), and my molly is very pure, 125mg one dose, would be me fucked up rolling harddd. Weight doesn't mean shit, it's about your metabolism and how you body reacts to the substance.
the toad
Bluelighter
160mg pf pure product should be enough for even the boggest people... my cousin is 220+ and built amd 100mg had him faced
Im smaller... about 155 pounds and i typically do 100-140mg... never more than 160mg in one dose.. its just too much
Im smaller... about 155 pounds and i typically do 100-140mg... never more than 160mg in one dose.. its just too much