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MDMA basics - What you need to know

Folley

Folley

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The basics:

The American market is complete SHIT. Ecstasy pills are fucking gross these days... they contain anything from MDPV to 5-MeO-DiPT, to those two combined with other unidentified chemicals....
This site can give you an idea of the kinds of nasty things that can be sold as pure MDMA...
http://www.ecstasydata.org/

Anything from animal dewormer (TFMPP/BZP), Dr. Death (PMMA), bath salts (MDPV) methamphetamine, and WORSE chemicals have been found in ecstasy pills, and it's not uncommon.

You can buy a marquis reagent from dancesafe.org for $25, it will not only test for the presence of MDMA in your substance, but will also tell you if you have meth, 2C-B, methylone, MDPV and many other chemicals
Use this as a reference for identifying chemicals
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/5...-RC-s-amp-more


Next is dosing, MDMA is a very safe drug, when used very sparingly. Alexander Shulgin recommends 3 months in between each and every roll, and to keep the dosage under 200mg (of pure MDMA), dosed once without redosing. It's generally regarded as OK to roll once a month though, and if you do dose higher than 200mg be sure to wait longer. This is not only to keep tolerance down, but because serotonin downregulation occurs from MDMA abuse and eventually you will "lose the magic" if you roll too often.
I've been serotonin depleted... it is NOT FUCKING FUN.

Overuse of MDMA can trigger underlying mental disorders for many, after rolling for long periods of time it is not uncommon to feel anxiety or depression, or to exhibit other signs of damage. This is why it is so important to use ecstasy safely, there are some SERIOUS horror stories out here, but I'm not here to scare you... just to inform.

Many people use supplements to minimize the harm of MDMA, I'm not too knowledgeable on those but I will say that many people find L-Tryptophan and 5-HTP (both are precursors to serotonin) to reduce comedowns and help recovery. There are a ton of supplements out there, and not all of them work but some people find certain ones to REALLY improve their lives.



Next, is the bull shit. You will be fed tons of BS by ecstasy users (but not me... I hope?), disregard most of it. Almost all of these E Tards know nothing about the drug... but they hear comments about it at raves and will repeat any fact to their friends. Things like LSD/2C-B/mescaline is in these pills, it stays in your spine, the blue pills are this and the red pills are that... or even "This shit is pure man, look at those crystals!"
It's all BS. Trust no one in this game, because most of them are completely ignorant.


Watch out for Serotonin Syndrome, a possibly fatal condition caused by using MDMA and SSRIS, MAOIs, DXM, tramadol and some other drugs at the same time


Also, like all stimulants, MDMA raises your body temp and dehydrates you, so be sure to drink water and try to stay cool. If you're dancing for hours, be sure to take occasional breaks to prevent overheating.


Methylone and other similar drugs do basically the same thing as MDMA, so just take all the rules here and apply them to those drugs. Obviously all serotonergic drugs have basically the same rules. Avoid taking speed and other neurochemical releasing drugs a couple weeks before your roll, as they have some cross tolerance too.


So basically, be sure you're getting real MDMA, dose safely and be sure to give your self plenty of time to recover and you'll continue to have magical experiences with this drug every single time.



Stay safe!





Please let me know if you have anything you feel should be added, or if you see anything that should be corrected.
 
It's generally regarded as OK to roll once a month though, and if you do dose higher than 200mg be sure to wait longer.
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Folley i don't think taking more than 200mg is a good idea....
I would say its too much on our brains to be dealing with that kind of dose..


I was just sitting here thinking of a time when i took between 150 and 200mg in one go and i was near new to mdma, and i just remember my eyes bouncing around and someone said they tried to get my attention but i looked right through them.

That's a bit extreme tbh
 
Sam, what you are saying might not be true for everyone though. 200 mg's was a good dose for me my first time.
 
This post should come with the purchase of every ecstasy tablet sold. Wouldn't it b nice if there were only educated users in the world? Maybe this wonderful drug wouldn't have to be illegal if everybody used it responsible!
 
yanker said:
This post should come with the purchase of every ecstasy tablet sold. Wouldn't it b nice if there were only educated users in the world? Maybe this wonderful drug wouldn't have to be illegal if everybody used it responsible!
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I think imma type up something so if a friend is gonna try it ill give em a little info sheet. haha
 
good stuff folley. i might add that drinking gatorade or something like that is better cause the salts in it help with hydration. when drinking regular water while rollin you should add a pinch of salt every other glass or so. lol its funny you mention tramadol. i also would like to warn people about taking tramadol. i highly recommend not taking it or anything else that folley mentions before taking MDMA. iv actually had a seizure from too much tramadol. tramadol in high doses lowers your seizure thresh hold. i actually go as far to not take any chemicals for as many days as i can before i roll. iv had too many fucked up interactions with MDMA an other drugs like opiates and tramadol. its not worth risking my roll because i couldnt wait a few days for all that shit to get out of my system. so if you have taken ANY drugs at all, wait at least 5 days until you try to roll. otherwise you risk your health and not to mention it COULD very well ruin ur roll. learn from my mistakes lol.
 
Folley said:
lol no shit... but how many E Tards take the time to read through 20+ threads to get all that information?


I'd like this to be a sticky so those people only have to read one thread to learn everything they should know
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No offense but if people aren't willing to read the Ecstasy Directory, they're not going to bother with your thread either. You just can't help some people.
 
OK I knew folley started a thread on this and glad I found it without having to start a new thread. So I'm having dinner with my sister bro in law and cousin and husband who I haven't seen in quite a few years and we get on the subject of ecstasy. My cousins husband says he did e in Amsterdam so naturally me who could talk e 24/7 tried to get the whole table involved in the convo asked if he liked it. He said it made him feel really good then my know it all bro in law says yea but they put all kinds of shit in e including LSD and cocaine and its made differently over there than it is here so naturally me starts to get agitated and said mdma is mdma doesn't matter where in the world its made there's only one way to make it. Yea they put other shit into pills but not LSD and cocaine.

So my question is how the fuck do u knock common sense and educate dummys without them k.owing u spend 24 hrs a day on a drug forum educating myself on the subject? Lol
 
^ it's possible to be well-read on a subject without coming across as a drug addict :)

i would concentrate on discussing the issues on their merits and keep your personal experiences out of it, if you can. if you're asked to substantiate your claims, do so in an unemotional manner and provide sources: here; erowid; dancesafe; etc. if you're challenged on why you are so familiar with this material and you're not comfortable telling the truth, have a cover story ready (i used to date a girl who was into that... or whatever). if you don't feel you're able to do that, you need to think about whether you want to engage in these kinds of discussions with non-bluelighters in the first place?

Folley said:
The basics:

The American market is complete SHIT.
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Folley said:
There's plenty of MDMA all over the US.
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lol.

alasdair
 
^ I like how you quote me out of context, very classy!

yanker said:
So my question is how the fuck do u knock common sense and educate dummys without them k.owing u spend 24 hrs a day on a drug forum educating myself on the subject? Lol
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Say you watched some documentaries about the drug, seemed to work for Crobar haha! Show them pillreports though, say you go there to find the safe pills and learned things along the way... because I'm sure it's true lol
 
I ended up dropping the subject and decided ignorance is better than blowing my cover.

But later that night my girl kept asking the guy bout Amsterdam pressing the subject and he said u seems fascinated bout Amsterdam why is that? So I diffused the situation and said she's just interested about getting a job in the red light district.
 
Nice post but ... Bath salts can be anything depending on vendor! Also taking PMA / PMMA does not mean your going to die - yes it is a toxic drug, yes it has been responsible for too many deaths but to give a drug the name of Dr Death is stupid.
 
Folley said:
lol no shit... but how many E Tards take the time to read through 20+ threads to get all that information?
I'd like this to be a sticky so those people only have to read one thread to learn everything they should know
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ABSOLUTELY!!

great post and super idea to be re-posting this. Most times I read this site I find something new of interest so I am confident that others do as well.

On another note ....... why does it say that Folley is on a Temporary Ban (or is it taboo to ask?)
 
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