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The Big & Dandy 25I-NBOMe Thread (2nd edition)

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foolsgold said:
im new to these and just got a nice deal on some blotters just wondering is a single 550ug tab going to be strong enuff of will i need 2 ? :)

its ok from what iv read on the first page 1 sounds more that enuff
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550ug should be enough for a first time, it won't be incredibly intense or overwhelming but should be enough to get a good feel for the chemical and have a pleasant trip. 1mg was a very nice dosage for me but I could see that it could be overwhelming at some points.
 
Rly, does freebase dissolve in distilled water with just something that acidifies it? Remember it is not HCL.
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There is nothing more to forming the hydrochloride salt than neutralising the freebase with hydrochloric acid. In other words, once you add acid, you don't have the freebase anymore.
 
Pengus said:
Rly, does freebase dissolve in distilled water with just something that acidifies it? Remember it is not HCL. Also, does 25i freebase absorb under the upper lip without HPBCD? EDIT: ofcourse it doesn´t! Some more reading concluded that. So I think im gonna stick to my own conclusions about how to make these blotters, not getting mislead by someone else ;)
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I was talking about converting your freebase to an acid-salt. If you have the freebase you can easily convert it to the HCl salt.
 
JBrandon said:
I was talking about converting your freebase to an acid-salt. If you have the freebase you can easily convert it to the HCl salt.
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Ok I will try this when the stuff gets here. Sorry but I get really mixed answers from reading these threads, but how does the HCL salt work sublingually without hpbcd? Also, does acidified freebase work just as good as original HCL salt sublingually?
 
foolsgold said:
thank you for the reply . iv got 3 coming so if i find 1 not quite what im looking for will dosing one more be like take a full dose or just a small top up ?
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Unless you redose very fast the second hit will have significantly less effect than if you dosed them both at once. My advice would be to try 1 hit, then if it's not enough try 2 hits next time :)
 
Pengus said:
Ok I will try this when the stuff gets here. Sorry but I get really mixed answers from reading these threads, but how does the HCL salt work sublingually without hpbcd?
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The HCl salt is water-soluble, so it has no problem absorbing through your mucous membranes. HPBCD is another (unnecessarily complicated, IMO) way to make the freebase water-soluble.

Also, does acidified freebase work just as good as original HCL salt sublingually?
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Yes, because you should have the same substance either way, if the acid you use is HCl. But I'd recommend using acetic acid (aka vinegar) or citric acid instead, in case you accidentally add too much and have excess acid in the solution. I've been using the acetate salt and getting great results with it -- see my previous posts in this thread.
 
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The HCl salt is water-soluble, so it has no problem absorbing through your mucous membranes. HPBCD is another (unnecessarily complicated, IMO) way to make the freebase water-soluble.



Yes, because you should have the same substance either way, if the acid you use is HCl. But I'd recommend using acetic acid (aka vinegar) or citric acid instead, in case you accidentally add too much and have excess acid in the solution. I've been using the acetate salt and getting great results with it -- see my previous posts in this thread.
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Ok thanks! My plan atm is to get som iso-alcohol 99.7% to dissolve the freebase, together with some drops of white vinegar. If it works as you said I´ll drop all the HPBCD stuff
 
aight so I took 5mg supposed hcl and added to vial.
added ten drops of distilled water.
stirred with a tiny dental spatula.
Wasn't dissolving so fast so I put one drop iso.
kept stirring and everything dissolved.
sucked back up into dropper.
shook dropper vigorously to dissolve.

Came out to 20 drops into newspaper.

so 5mg into 20 drops is 250ug hits x 20.

Will report back results. :)
I suppose first I'll try 250ug.

How is 25i with pain regulation?
Having lots of dental work one lately..

Some things I noted..

The reason I got 20 drops of final solution from 10 drops of water and one drop of alcohol is seemingly because alcohol drops smaller than water.
Therefore I would ESTIMATE that the alcohol thins the water so it drops smaller.
just a guess.

I also notice when you drop this substance onto white paper it leaves a lightly yellow mark, when using the method above.
 
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lol...
I was wearing gloves, dust mask, safety goggles and had a fairly clean area..
and still managed to ingest some of the 25i somehow while laying my blotters.

I'm very happy to state that it was extremely smart to use a tiny spatula and only pull 5mg out of the bag with gloves on an kept the bag triple bagged etc etc.

Not entirely sure where I ingested some of the chemical or how but I feel it and it feels good. Thank goodness it was just a tiny bit I guess. An unknown amount...

I'm laughing and have sliding visuals and a bit of a feeling like DOC but more "fuzzy" if you will.
Feels good.

I haven't even eaten one of my (newspaper) blotters yet. lol!

Please, please, please be very very careful messing around with this one folks holy cow it's extremely powerful for sure.
Can't even say where I got any on me during the process while protected fairly well.
Luckily safety measures were there. I was thinking to myself the whole time how the dude who said he ingested some accidentally was a dope, and then I did it myself being extra extra careful too.

Wow, yeah, be careful with this stuff. Feels great though haha.
Not for the inexperienced or even people who think they might kinda be experienced just a little bit maybe. Understand? Be careful! Keep that shit triple bagged and waaaay the hell away from any youngin's.
 
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eye_wide_open said:
yes sir it is very insane. It also seems to change the way MXE operates lol. whew.
You guys need to be very careful and keep 18 y/o w/ bank cards away from that shit lol
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Im gonna go buy some safety-gloves and dust mask right now
 
Yeah that was pretty interesting yesterday. I was at a +++ for several hours. mixing in MXE woul kick the high right back up to +++ almost ++++ for a long time. Heavily potentiated the MXE. When I didn't even expect to be on a drug, that was pretty wild. The come-up was incredibly intense. I knew I ingested some NBOMe, that's for sure.
Hard to say exactly how much until I get to trying more of the chemical and see how high I was in comparison. lol
Totally wild that was for sure.
I would estimate 99% of the people I know are not equipped to handle something like this and the 1% that might be probably aren't either. lol

I'm extremely lucky I knew well enough to not go removing more than 5mg from that shit at a time from the bag.
I'd take extreme precautions dudes. This shit is like clean room and lab coat type shit.
Easy to see how people are ending up at the "hossy" on this one to steal from Colt Dan's vocabulary. I was tripping balls all day yesterday without even taking any on purpose.

I'm baseline right now.
thank goodness. lol
It was tough to get to sleep,
I don't have anymore xanax right now.
One probably should when working with this type stuff.

I'd like to add that 25i-nbome will "MASK" root canal pain but won't completely remove it. You will still feel pain on 25i. MXE is much better at pain removal of root canals. MXE can remove pain from root canal teeth.

I felt like that one story I read about the people who invented LSd and accidentally ingested a thumbprint worth in their lab.Wow the colors and hallucinations were hitting me fast and hard.
Wish I knew how much that was I ingested. Likely just a crumb I never even saw.

there was a very strong body high too. Walking around felt very robotic like and wired. Very stimulated body feeling when you began to move around. This would be good at a show perhaps or something. Dance on it.
 
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Good ol' placebo effect =D

No really, these NBOMes are seriously dangerous. An invisible amount of dust puffing out of the bag while opening it can be a significant dose (perhaps an overdose?!).
Be utterly cautious while handling these compounds!
 
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You are seriously not kidding.
An invisible amount of dust puffing out of the bag while opening it can be a significant dose (perhaps an overdose?!).
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Very very true. I don't know if that happened to me or not, don't think so, but anything is possible. I don't doubt that could happen easily.

Just because you guys can buy this stuff does not mean you should.
You really need to think twice about this one.
25i HCL is not something hardly anyone needs to have laying around their house.

Consider maybe some DOC with twice to three times better safety profile at minimum.
Or have somebody you trust and who has tried themselves get you pre made 25i blotters or something.

Dosing25i HCL yourself out of your home is shady. Be extremely cautious and think twice before attempting.
Don't even think of trying to pass this off to anyone as real LSD.

It did feel good for me, that's for sure.
But who knows how much I accidentally took an it was very overwhelming.
But I knew what was happening and maintained my cool and just sat back and tried to relax.
Very strong.

Keep in mind i'm the kind of person who has combined MXE with shrooms, MXE DMT and LSD, been to hossy on Datura 15 years ago.. had shroomy ego deaths here at home and liked it.. etc.

I have 15 years of psych experience and never seen stuff like that.
it's like ecstacy an mushrooms and lsd mixed in whatever doseage I took.
the word "neon" wants to come to mind.
 
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