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Plugging dmt (possibly with Syrian rue)

Skorpio said:
when the same dose was smoked by multiple friends nobody broke through. I prefer it to smoking as I got a lot farther out with the same quantity of material.
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Is washing your hair in the shower beyond "breaking through" on smoked DMT, in your opinion?
 
blazR said:
^A MAOi would prolong and intesify the effects but aren't necessary when bypassing first-pass-metabolism(intrarectally and nassaly).

//blazR
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Doesn't it go through your liver regardless of whether oral or rectal?
 
Well, some of it might. I think.. Could be wrong though.

But it seems to me like a reasonable amount DMT crosses the BBB without a MAOi, when administered intrarectally.
I have experience plugging 5-MeO-DMT without a MAOi... It was definately less intense, started with 10mg and took 15mg more a coupple of minutes after first dose. I would predict the transport of DMT or 5-MeO-DMT is the same or very much alike..

//blazR
 
I used a twenty cc syringe, it was not an oral syringe. Also I have never broken through on smoked dmt, this is why this second dmt trip was the most intense of my life. Also plugging bypasses first pass metabolism, but it all hits the liver eventually, just not directly on the way to the brain.
 
^are you going to try with a MAOi?

If so, please report back. I'm very interrested :)

//blazR
 
Ismene said:
Doesn't it go through your liver regardless of whether oral or rectal?
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I remember Dondante posting it's the lower 8ish inches that bypasses the liver, and he's creepy serious into butts so he'd know. Deeper than that and it gets into the same route in the circulatory system that the rest of the digestive system dumps into. So don't use heavy volumes or stand on your head while you're turkey basting yourself. I always hear about people using like 10 or 30 mL and I never know why they make themselves water balloons like that (POP! "Now we gotta burn that mattress"). I use maybe 2 and as low as 0.5 if I'm using a insulin syringe with the needle cut off (because with that kind of syringe every last drop always gets pushed out, so might as well go for high concentration/faster onset).
 
"stay in touch with my more raw animal side."
"slammed it all up the rear before taking a shower."
"stand on your head while you're turkey basting yourself."
"washing my hair with my eyes closed"

I really don't get it. Is DMT on the gay scene?
Very confusing. Is it for pleasure enhancement alone? I've never heard anything like this.

DMT can be smoked after taking syrian rue (orally or smoked).
So why would you put a turkey baster 8 inches up your anus?:? ?
What happened to the mattress? Why did you have to burn it?:?
 
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dude, you're putting sexual connotations where there shouldn't be any.

The only reason I was interested in it is because smoking it has a brutal taste and is pretty harsh on my lungs. I'm not gay nor do I like to put things in my butt for any reason, but for a DMT breakthrough? maybe one day if I really felt like it.

he was joking when he was talking about a turkey baster, he was just comparing the action of squirting the contents of a syringe up your ass to that.
 
Heh. Sometimes I forget the average reading level at Bluelight is on par with readers of the New York Post (fair enough if English isn't your first language but you seem to understand what a turkey baster is so put it together). I was having a little fun with words. You DON'T want to go deeper than around 8 inches because that's where the blood vessels that carry nutrients to the liver begin. Standing on you head would carry the solution past that area by gravity.

As an aside:
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There's nothing gay about rectal administration unless you're a teenager, or a teenager by mental age, who is insecure with his sexuality. It's just blatantly superior to snorting in every conceivable way. Why endanger your sense of smell or your lungs if you don't have to? I don't happen to be gay (sort of wish I was, but only if I could start at age 20 - it'd probably be a lot more fun), but, in the interest of full disclosure, I do sort of like a woman's finger in my ass while she blows me, so there. It's called prostrate stimulation and liking it is a direct consequence of simple biomechanics, secure sexuality, comfort with one's body, and independent rational self-awareness (ironically, as a heterosexual, a guy's got to be pretty manly to be able to enjoy taking it in the ass). Drop the cultural baggage and live a little.
 
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I guess I just look at it from a scientific perspective, the anus is just another route of administration. And it happens to be a pretty efficient and pain free one at that. For me the speed of onset and duration make a huge difference in how I experience the trip, slightly slower onset and slightly longer duration of the rectal route are more enjoyable than the sudden slam of smoked and snorted drugs. Also no coughing up caustic smoke or chemical drip is nice. Even in the medical profession they use suppositories when the route would be more efficient or safer than other routes.

So will just mixing DMT freebase is white vinegar work for plugging? I tried plugging 5-meo-dmt freebase to no effect. I've gotten some decent results from plugging DPT HCl before though.
 
could this be attempted with a gluggy/pasty mix of dmt and vinegar in a gel cap? or must it be administered in liquid form?
i'm not experienced with plugging and i'm not sure what to use if i were to try it with dmt...
 
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