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Harm Reduction Alcohol addiction
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Cane2theLeft
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After a month, spacing it out that much, I can't imagine you're at much risk for DT's. Typically people at risk for such drink every day and do so for much longer periods than a month. You are consuming quite a bit when you do but if you aren't drinking everyday, it's more difficult to become physically dependent on alcohol. If you believe you are an alcoholic though, DT's are not your only concern.
if youve only been doing it for a month, that means you have only gotten drunk a total of 15 times on this binge. That is not enough to worry about DTs, but you are definitely consuming far too much alcohol and you should stop before your addiction gets worse.
Pagey
Bluelight Crew
You should be all right, do try to stop/reduce immediately though 
tricomb
Bluelight Crew
Just stop righttttt now, to avoid real problems. That is extremely excessive use of alcohol, although it is good you manage to alternate days.
Fire&Water
Pumpkin King
Also, liquor is quite a bit harder on your organs/mouth, than beer & wine
Spacing it out means you're giving yourself some time to dry out, which is important and severely minimizes the damage, although if keep it up, the problems will creep up on you.
I drank like you for a few years. I would drink 2-3 days, then take a break, then drink every other day for a few days. Then repeat a sort of staggered cycle where I was drinking 3-5x a week. At first, I just suffered cravings and slight withdrawal, with an overall crappy/cravey feeling when I wasn't drinking. Eventually I started feeling ill after binging, where I became pale, easily bloated, some muscle weakness and abdomen pressure, most likely from fatty liver although there was never a diagnosis. I felt like shit and that's what mattered.
If you're going to drink, make rules and stick to them. Things like "no more than once a week" or "no more than 14 standard drinks a week" are good rules, but you need to have really good discipline to make them work.
I drank like you for a few years. I would drink 2-3 days, then take a break, then drink every other day for a few days. Then repeat a sort of staggered cycle where I was drinking 3-5x a week. At first, I just suffered cravings and slight withdrawal, with an overall crappy/cravey feeling when I wasn't drinking. Eventually I started feeling ill after binging, where I became pale, easily bloated, some muscle weakness and abdomen pressure, most likely from fatty liver although there was never a diagnosis. I felt like shit and that's what mattered.
If you're going to drink, make rules and stick to them. Things like "no more than once a week" or "no more than 14 standard drinks a week" are good rules, but you need to have really good discipline to make them work.
PeacePipeChief
Bluelighter
i was drinking for basically a year STRAIGHT when i was 15 , with very , very few days break and experienced no serious withdrawal , im still an alcoholic though 
not only can i not say no to a drink i cant stop myself buying them , and im only 17 i cant even legally buy alcohol !
not only can i not say no to a drink i cant stop myself buying them , and im only 17 i cant even legally buy alcohol !
Fire&Water
Pumpkin King
Not trying to be a buzzkill, but rum is one of the worst liquors all the way around, being distilled from sugar/corn syrup...
To all there own i guess
tricomb
Bluelight Crew
Indeed, Maybe switch to 40oz malt liquors, then down to 24 oz tall cans? I don't know, it would be best to completely get off it right now if you're trying to avoid severe complications like delirium tremens and liver problems, alcohol induced cirrhosis, hepatitis, all stuff best to avoid...
My heart goes out to you... Why don't you stop now before this consumes you?
i was drinking for basically a year STRAIGHT when i was 15 , with very , very few days break and experienced no serious withdrawal , im still an alcoholic though
My heart goes out to you... Why don't you stop now before this consumes you?
PeacePipeChief
Bluelighter
It'll never consume me >=) it's been my demon since day one and took me to the second darkest place I've been too (meth being no.1) I don't have the income to drink very regularly , and I'm doing really well ATM , almost never drinking . But when I get paid its a different story , it's like the money dissapears and there's drinks in my hand . I try not to rationalize it but it always sneaks in . I'm not very concerned right now because my pay is only every 2 weeks and I only have time to buy drinks once or twice before my pays gone , and I've limited it to once each time . I know I still have an addiction though , for example I bought a 10 pack on Monday , just to have a few drinks with a mate because he took me to some good sober activities that were paid for by him (that's how I rationalized buying them) he ended out only drinking 1 can , and we only sat around for about 2 hours after the activities (which we couldn't drink at) I drank super slow in that time , got home and drank the rest except for one can which I literally had to force myself to save . I didn't even get drunk because I was drinking so slow
8 cans over 4 hours is just way too slow . Then I woke up and completed some responsibilities before I drank the last can , so I'm getting better 2 months ago (before discontinuing/controlling my weed/alcohol consumption) I was drinking atleast 3-5 times a week , about 20-30 standard drinks each time , which was not becoming problematic at all , so you can only imagine how bad it was in the depths of my alcohol addiction haha .
chase_in_56ace
Ex-Bluelighter
without trying to sound judgmental you are extremely young for an alcoholic. my advice to you would be to go to an inpatient rehab facility immediately. at a mere 17 years of age by the time you were 30 most likely this addiction would have completely ruined your body. alcoholism runs in my family and I can certainly attest to the fact that it is proggessive, incurable, and fatal. you may think you're getting better but that is simple your addiction sneaking up on you. it will get into your head and continue to make you think anything to keep you drinking. nothing will ever help you other than sobriety in a good program. good luck and I truly hope you don't consider yourself an exception to the methods that 99 percent of alcohol use to get dry
DooMMooD
Bluelighter
This guy above me is a genius. All of his words were pure gold.
Addiction will make you think/do ANYTHING to keep you using. You yourself said in a post right before "I drink everyday, i cant stop myself from buying alcohol" then in your NEXT POST are saying "oh but its REALLY NOT THAT BAD! I mean i was able to save ONE CAN of beer from the 10 I had last night! I mean 2 months ago I had near 20 shots every night, only 9 beers in 4 hours is normal!"
Comeon man....are you even reading what youre writing? Its not normal lol and it sounds like it already has consumed you. I wish you the best alcohol (and opiates) are....poison and demonic, to use some apt metaphors. Alcoholism/addiction runs in my family, shits crazy.
And OP: I'd be more worried about your liver than any DTs man. God damn 12-20 shots every other day for how long?
my dad used to drink ONLY BEER, a few a day, and ended up with liver cancer.
Hope your livers good bro you've been giving it quite the beating. As everyone else said, quit while youre ahead and still have your health and sanity. I've seen people going through DT before at detox, and let me tell you: very few of them were able to stick it out. Quite a few left right after they realized they weren't going to die, to drink again because the pain and shakes were so bad that they would've rather DRANK ALCOHOL than been detoxed by a doctor.
Thats how deluded their thinking was: "I almost died from alcohol, let me go back out and drink more so I dont get the shakes! These doctors are quacks!"
You dont' wanna get to that point. Good luck bro just remember every day you dont drink is a day longer you could have on the earth in the future.
Addiction will make you think/do ANYTHING to keep you using. You yourself said in a post right before "I drink everyday, i cant stop myself from buying alcohol" then in your NEXT POST are saying "oh but its REALLY NOT THAT BAD! I mean i was able to save ONE CAN of beer from the 10 I had last night! I mean 2 months ago I had near 20 shots every night, only 9 beers in 4 hours is normal!"
Comeon man....are you even reading what youre writing? Its not normal lol and it sounds like it already has consumed you. I wish you the best alcohol (and opiates) are....poison and demonic, to use some apt metaphors. Alcoholism/addiction runs in my family, shits crazy.
And OP: I'd be more worried about your liver than any DTs man. God damn 12-20 shots every other day for how long?
my dad used to drink ONLY BEER, a few a day, and ended up with liver cancer.
Hope your livers good bro you've been giving it quite the beating. As everyone else said, quit while youre ahead and still have your health and sanity. I've seen people going through DT before at detox, and let me tell you: very few of them were able to stick it out. Quite a few left right after they realized they weren't going to die, to drink again because the pain and shakes were so bad that they would've rather DRANK ALCOHOL than been detoxed by a doctor.
Thats how deluded their thinking was: "I almost died from alcohol, let me go back out and drink more so I dont get the shakes! These doctors are quacks!"
You dont' wanna get to that point. Good luck bro just remember every day you dont drink is a day longer you could have on the earth in the future.
Intrinsic man
Bluelighter
According to a book I own titled "Synopsis of Psychiatry 11th Ed." it would, on average, take the consumption of 1 pint of liquor/day, 3-4 pints of wine/day, or 7-8 pints of beer/day to suffer DT's. I don't have the book in front of me (so the numbers may be slightly off, however I think my memory serves me well) but I believe the period of time involving this kind of consumption was a number of months - certainly more than every other day for one.
BritishLad
Bluelighter
Be careful, I've been down (and some what still am) on that road myself. You really don't notice it, since you feel fine and if your like me don't usually get much of a hang over from vodka. It'll lead to you feeling anxious and NEEDING the drink and loosing the nice feeling that comes with it. I never get one much now, only if I'm with people not when I drink along like I use to.
I thought I'd be fine with it, didn't think I'd end up becoming nearly (or fully) addicted to alcohol myself. Try to space it out, and best to avoid drinking alone. But if you like drinking at home and chilling, try to do it a lot less.
Exacly how I'm like with alcohol tbh, always ending up thinking one more day won't matter and boom... it's gone again
I thought I'd be fine with it, didn't think I'd end up becoming nearly (or fully) addicted to alcohol myself. Try to space it out, and best to avoid drinking alone. But if you like drinking at home and chilling, try to do it a lot less.
Exacly how I'm like with alcohol tbh, always ending up thinking one more day won't matter and boom... it's gone again
PeacePipeChief
Bluelighter
i didnt say i drink every day , i said i was , and have stopped and only have enough money atm to buy alcohol once every two weeks , which im also going to stop . thanks for your concerns all , but honestly my drinking is the only thing that hasnt affected my life in a negative way 'recently' , and please people , stop twisting my words , it makes me devalue your comments much more .