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2-CE Inactive first dose??

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DylanG204

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I ordered 125mg's from an online vendor.

5 days later i receive a small baggie labelled , containing a very fine slightley yellow/white powder
after much reaserch and carefull preperation , i decide 27mg's is the sweet spot as i want too have full effects from this chemical.

I weigh out 2 caps just under 30 mgs , me and my brother take them both and wait.
the whole night gos by and no effects oncesoever. being very dissapointed and feeling ripped off
i email my supplier and tell them that my tests have been unsucessfull and that their product is not as pure as they say it is .

i receive an email saying that this is their newest batch and this chemical is very stable , backing up the potency of their product.

a week later we weigh out 20mgs in 2 lines , and snort them.
the instant i snort the line im already being thrown into another dimention, extreemley fast come up exteemley uncomfortable.
within 20 minutes we both start vomiting , the nausea was extreeme and we both thought we were overdosing , not knowing nausea is a common effect
of 2ce. I was expecting a very mild high judging about the last trip.

this has happend too me the first time i took an ecstacy pill , i never even caught a buzz off of it.

Is this a common occurance too not feel a drug the first time you take it ?
this has happend too me with 2ce, and mdma , has anybody elce had simmilar effects??
 
Some people don't get good effects from oral phenethylamines (2c-series), they may need up to 2x the recommended dose.

20mg of snorted 2c-e is probably way too much, 2c-e is generally considered to be about 2x as effective as an oral dose ... 10mg is probably more than enough.

The ecstacy thing is different - one pill generally doesn't contain enough MDMA to get most people very high. (usually 60-80mg mdma).
 
It's common to some.. I had a couple of tryouts with weed befor I got any results.
If you have had a full stomach while dosing, it could explain a reduce in effect.

Have you been taking benzo's or antipsychotichs the days before?

Another shot of mine; metabolism. You said you and your brother(biologically?) took it orally the first time and intranasaly the second.
Bypassing the first-pass-metabolism intensify the effects, reduce the duration a little - due to letting the drug more directly inside the bloodstream and over the blood-brain barrier, hence through the stomach, liver etc.

Also since you are brothers, you could very well have the same kind of metabolism. People have differences in their way processing and breaking down molecules.

//blazR
 
sekio said:
Some people don't get good effects from oral phenethylamines (2c-series), they may need up to 2x the recommended dose.

20mg of snorted 2c-e is probably way too much, 2c-e is generally considered to be about 2x as effective as an oral dose ... 10mg is probably more than enough.

The ecstacy thing is different - one pill generally doesn't contain enough MDMA to get most people very high. (usually 60-80mg mdma).
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Noo i was young , i took a white xxx trip or quad stack (big fucker) and felt no effects , after that one pill of anything would hit me like a train.
simmilar too 2ce ,




I have never taken antiphycotics , and did not do shrooms or anything often, i have taken 30mgs on other occations and had full blown visuals / introspection
i never eat before taking drugs because i heard it causes stomach ulcers ,
 
2ce can be hit or miss for me sometimes aswel. however oral doses affect me alot better than insullfating, i also like to do sublingual with 2ce for me the bodyload isnt as bad that way same with the nausea. snorting works but its not as mental/deep/euphoric/visual for me and it doesnt last as long enough i have to redose quite a bit.

first time i took 2ce(30mg then 10mg 5 hours later) oral it was actually my favorite 2ce trip other than a 45mg oral trip that i really enjoyed.

8-14mg insullfated isnt bad ime, ill start with 2-3mg and just work my way up at times. oral i prefer atleast 15mg and no more than 40mg really anything over 40s a waste imo your memory is so impared after 40mg that you dont really even remember much. i like comboing 2ce + mushrooms, it can be a very intense combo, i recommend starting with low doses in both if you were to try the combo also dont eat them all at once i messed up one time it was fun but i was just destroyed, also the first 4 hours youll have some really uniques visuals and after that youll coast into the last part of the 2ce trip its really cool very interesting.

first couple times i tried mdma it was kinda shaky aswel wasnt in the proper set and setting, i even had good mdma. after a couple times i got the hang of it. first couple times i tried lsd aswel it was kind of weak, after 3-4 trips i started actuallyu tripping nicely.

you kinda have to just give some things some trials and find your groove i guess as long as you take the proper precautions youll be fine.
 
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yeah i agree , way more visual when eaten than snorted. 2ce burns waaaay too much for me too try that again


do you think other drugs are more visual orally than snorted?
 
It varies from experience to experience. There's no real way to tell "how visual" a trip will be just by knowing the dosage and RoA. I find 2C-_ to be REALLY visual when insuffulated, but it could also be that I'm taking "more" since nasal BA is higher than oral BA. I had REALLY REALLY crisp, sharp and clean visuals when I IV'd a very small amount of 2c-b, and I usually don't find 2c-b visual.
 
the burn doesnt really get me its tolerable, what i do like about insullfation is how quickly you can come up and its not as uncomfortable for me as the come up orally. also this is subjective but out of my experiences mdma/mda is more visual/deep for me when takin orally, insullfation doesnt compete compared to oral mdma/mda imo. also 4 ho met is more visual/deep for me when taken orally compared to insullfation. insullfation can be just as intense dont get me wrong but it doesnt last near as long and ime its always lacking most of the magic i have with compounds that i get with oral roa. i know this is different for everyone but this is out of my experiences with things also things can change for a individual experiences are infinite ime.

i have also learned set setting is a big factor with the effects of 2ce(just like with everything else), i have met others that werent comfortable and barely felt it off a dose they should have been catching nice visual and mental effects from. i have also even orally swallowed 15mg and didnt get much of course i was riding in a vehicle and was around my buddies that werent tripping, also i have ate 10mg thinking i wasnt going to get much off a potent batch and i ended up tripping pretty hard for 10mg so it ranges alot ime or atleast for me. also liquid measurement tek would be highly recommended if you dont have a accurate .000 scale.

also what i like to do sometimes is snort a little 2ce like 2-4mg while already tripping on 2ce to get a boost it works ime jsut have to be careful and responsible.
 
Maybe you should get a test kit and reagent test it to see if it is really 2c-e. Even good-intentioned vendors make mistakes.
 
My first and only time with 2c-p was 10mg insulfated, and all I got from it was a bad burn and maybe 3 hours of a mental trip. I expected a lot more from it.

Now 2c-e has always delivered for me, though I have only taken it orally. I think that set and setting influence it more than a 5mg change in dosage. 2c-e will make you think it's just a light, clear headed psych, until one day it decides you need to SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!!! 2c-e wants to show you something!
 
I can relate, my first 25mg 2C-E did not produce any effect at all. Was supposed to be my first psychedelic... Wasn't :)
 
Limitbreaker said:
I can relate, my first 25mg 2C-E did not produce any effect at all. Was supposed to be my first psychedelic... Wasn't :)
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I wonder why this happens , espetially too people with no tolerance being their first exposure,
seems like some kind of phenomenon
 
Yep. Haven't tried any serotoninergic (classic) psychedelics before that. And 25mg should have totally blast me. I remember drinking a beer back then, but it was few hours after I noticed no effects (not even physical effects, stimulation or anything). Just like if it went through me...
 
Material could have been cut, doesn't make sense that you didn't get any effects the first use unless you where on some other medication at that time which blocked it.

Me and my friends have all tried 2ci,2cb,2ce and 2cp from reputable sources and never had an "inactive dose", also keep in mind 2c's share tolerance with LSD and shrooms + alot of other drugs.
 
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