Just checked in on this thread, for the first time in a long time, and thought I would share some info if anyone does actually take any notice of any warnings. I wish I knew when I started what I know now and never gone near such a deceptively "innocent" substance. I have been using EPH since its release in Dec 2011.
I am now into the six month of daily continuous use and the grams are well into triple figures. Yeah....I know.....
I have shoved this stuff every which way I could put it, apart from IV, and that is only because I havent been an IV user, if I had that experience I would probably look like a pin cushion.
And no, I am not proud of any of it, but I have pushed the limits further than they should go and I wouldn't reccomend going there to anyone, I am heavily addicted to it and believe me it is one fucked up place you don't want to be in, seriously.
Theres some real entertaining posts on here now and so many repeated questions that have been answered throughout, but still they are repeated.............if you want to know if you can smoke it and how fucking nasty it is, jump in and try it, load up the pipe and find out. It is fucking nasty, and it's nothing like smoking crack. The only relation to crack is what it did to the acrylic of the bong I smoked a shitload through months back, the fumes made it perish and crack. It left me wondering how I was still able to breathe after seeing the state of the bong.
The high from it is quite shit, but it is fiendish and I found myself smoking through 500mg a time in only a few hours, for no good reason really, with a seared throat and lungs and ears that were burning the day after...WTF? DONT smoke it. It really is that bad.
If you don't think snorting it can be that bad as what people have said, give it a go and feel the corrosion to your nasal passages that will have severe lasting damage and realise that it is that bad. Then repeat it on several occasions thereafter, as I kept doing like an idiot until it's unbearable and you have to try a different ROA. I did a line last night just, well out of stupidity, and the pain was immense, so I did another one.
If you want to know if it will damage/harm/fuck up/kill me if I do this......then find out yourself if you really want to know that much, you won't be dissapointed to find out it does. Or listen to what others who have gone there have said and don't repeat the damage to yourself.
Well that is good news. Did you ever have a day where you didn't drink much water? I'm thinking that would be the killer in my case, the chemical wouldn't have been diluted enough to pass through without causing massive damage. I hope to god that I am okay, this is the last time I try a chemical that doesn't have a single bit of reliable info out on it, so stupid. I'm expecting a decline in renal function as a best case scenario here. Has anyone else done ethyphenidate while dehydrated and noticed adverse effects? All in all I did about 200mg, over the course of about 8 hours, I woke up at 11, dosed at about 12, like 3 sips of water plus the water i used to wash out my nose, of which about 6 of those hours the only liquids I had were a bowl of cereal, after which I drank water.
I'm starting to feel some pains in my lower back, fuck
ThrowawayAus I read your last few posts and to put your mind at rest, are you fucking serious?
I can safely guarantee that there is no way that you have done any damage to yourself whatsoever. Acute renal failure?
How have you come to such an extreme diagnosis? On 200mg?
Could any of the experienced long term users here chime in on if they have experienced any bloody stools, diarrhea, abdominal pain or vomiting blood after dosing extensively orally?
I will chime in and confirm that you are in no danger of kidney failure, I say this with confidence as I have extensively, foolishly and desperately abused this substance in doses that are just plain reckless and have no good reason than a deathwish. I've used it every single day, all day, all night and running into several days at a time with no break for the past 6 months. I dose orally because my nose couldnt carry on in the early days and I swallow between 3000-5000mg in a day/night. I also exclusively plugged this for quite some time too and again in amounts that I cant comprehend still being alive.
I have experienced no bleeding, vomiting blood or diahrrea from oral use, I used to retch quite a lot but not anymore really, the problems came when I was plugging 100mg a time frequently totalling over +2000mg at time. I had bad abdominal pain, mucous in my shit and irregular bowel function with difficulty actually getting it out. I had pain in my lower back where iI get sciatia, but that could have been because of sticking my arse in the air too often when I was plugging....... It got very scary and I was very ill after some time. I changed back to dosing orally and gradually things have got back to normal, (I hope anyway).
You will be ok, it will take a lot more than what you have used before you find out it is damaging you. I dont mean this to sound arrogant but it probably will anyway, I have to use around 500mg in the morning to even get near the ability to function and then continuous use there on up to 5000mg, but mostly it is on average 3000mg in a day. I am very ill from this addiction and things are very serious as you would imagine from such prolonged abuse.
There wasn't any reliable info out there when it was released that is why they are called research chemicals. If you decide you want to do the research then prepare yourself for the possible damage and consequences that will likely follow. There is however a lot more information out there from people who have learned the hard way and share what they have experienced so others don't have to. The one and only reason I joined Bluelight was to share the dangers I experienced to help others not do the same. The way this substance has consumed me and damaged me is far beyond what I EVER thought possible. No drug in 15yrs of use and several addictions has taken me like this has and I have used many of them.
And you know what gets even better? There is not enough known by the drug rehab services and doctors in the UK about this as they haven't come across anything like it before.
I am waiting (actually clinging on) in hope for a place at a detox centre through a local drug service and a treatment that they don't even know what it will be yet as there are complex issues they have never experienced and are trying to work, out as this has long ago escaped beyond my control. I have been very foolish getting to the amounts i have done and I don't really know how they have got as high as they have, it has progressed further and further as time has gone on, I just feel thankful that so far it hasn't been the end of me, as it surely should have been, yet..............
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I'm expecting a decline in renal function as a best case scenario here. Has anyone else done ethyphenidate while dehydrated and noticed adverse effects?
Forgot to add, yes I have been extremely dehydrated many times, when on serious amounts of EPH like when your piss is pure orange and smells....vile. I experience adverse effects every day in some way or another but I think you'll be ok.
All in all I did about 200mg, over the course of about 8 hours, I woke up at 11, dosed at about 12, like 3 sips of water plus the water i used to wash out my nose, of which about 6 of those hours the only liquids I had were a bowl of cereal, after which I drank water.
So, quite adequately hydrated over the 6 hours?
I'm starting to feel some pains in my lower back, fuck
Really? PLease.
If you decide to dice with death again and want to swallow it in a capsule but are worried of the life threatening consequences that could occur from a few traces of undissolved crystal that have gone into your stomach acid and will now cause imminent damage to your renal system, why dont you dissolve the dose into a liquid outside of your body in a glass or bottle and then drink the liquid with the diffused crystals and so escape any danger of corroding your insides with undissolved material.
I dissolve a gram (1000mg) into 10ml of water and then use a medicine syringe to measure out 1ml per time which gives me 10 x 100mg doses without having to weigh out bombs/caps all the time and is a lot less nauseating than swallowing it in a bomb/cap. You may want to adjust the ratio of water and EPH to what dose is what will suit you or just throw whatever dose you want at the time into an amount of liquid and dissolve as and when you need.
The solution is still corrosive, if you put it up your nose it will burn and cause damage, just significantly less than doing a line of crushed crystals or even the powder will.
The initial first hours are the best. it's a shame to waste it all pursuing a high that's past it's peak.
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