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rkline

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Lately Ive been using extremely pure mdma crystal. The experience is amazing but imo not stimualting enough for a party rave setting. Although immensly pleasurable, the experience is very different than other molly/pill experiences which I find enjoyably stimulating.

What stimulants can be safely and enjoyably combined with MDMA to make it a more speedy energetic experience for dancing and partying in a rave setting? Id like some advice before injesting two chemicals that Ive never experienced together - what works, whats commonly combined ect. This is not meant to be "what should I take?" This is harm reduction.

I have access to anything. So far I was thinking 4fa or adderall

thanks :)
 
I have the same problem here, my source is just too good :! It doesn't make me go crazy like I want to, it just makes me want to hug everyone and lay down and chill the fuck out, which is GREAT at home, but not when I'm in the student union acting like a creep or at a rave and can't be bothered to dance
 
I wonder how 4fa would mix with mdma? Stimulation plus mdma love? Anyone trie this combo? Maybe a different combo is better?
 
coolzmoker said:
Speed. It's not healthy though.
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IS 4fa a bad choice? apparently its like a stim crossed with n empathogen.

When people say speed what are they referring to? Street speed? Adderall? Another amphetamine medication? Meth?
 
Usually when brits say 'speed' we just mean standard street amphetamine i think.

also caffeine is supposed to be good for making a roll more stimulating.
 
Go with caffeine before you decide to use speed. Many people use it with their rolls and it works great for them.



I used to combine speed with like all of my rolls... that SERIOUSLY messed me up in the head, and I strongly urge against it. Every once in a while is cool, but not every roll. That dopamine rush along with the serotonin coming out is going to be a lot more addictive for you as it was for me. Dopamine is the reward center of your brain, and even that small amount of speed will rewire your brain into thinking that it's OK for you and that you don't have a problem with it because you're just having some fun, right? Wrong. Eventually I was using MDMA weekly, and buying pills I knew were just meth to go with them... it led to me not being able to roll for like 6-8 months and even now 12 months after that, I have barely recovered.


Fuck speed. And all it's stupid little friends.
 
Yeah i'd just stick to caffeine; not only is it lighter on the brain; its legal and therefore its easily accessible and easy to get the dose just right. If you're in the UK, half a pro plus pill (25mg) mixed with the initial dose is enough if you have minimal tolerance.
 
I prefer molly for raves. My birthday is on Halloween and i went to Escape from Wonderland for it. I danced for 9 nhours with only a few breaks.
 
BHPaperstacks said:
I prefer molly for raves. My birthday is on Halloween and i went to Escape from Wonderland for it. I danced for 9 nhours with only a few breaks.
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Molly, mandy, ecstasy, E, rolls, MD are all the same chemical - MDMA. Theres really no difference so I don't see why you would prefer molly at raves?

Well done for dancing for 9 hours though... don't think I could manage that without re-dosing/caffeine.
 
This might be the wrong thread but since I started it today, I figured Id use it. Im hoping for an answer as soon as possible.

Would MXE taken tonight effect effect how hard I roll on MDMA in four days?

MXE tonight - Pure MDMA and possibly 4FA four days later

Is this likely to effect how hard I roll? Is there a cross tolerance? Should I just wait? Or is this ample time?

thanks
 
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MXE is a weird little drug... but I don't think it should affect your roll.... too much.
 
Folley said:
Go with caffeine before you decide to use speed. Many people use it with their rolls and it works great for them.



I used to combine speed with like all of my rolls... that SERIOUSLY messed me up in the head, and I strongly urge against it. Every once in a while is cool, but not every roll. That dopamine rush along with the serotonin coming out is going to be a lot more addictive for you as it was for me. Dopamine is the reward center of your brain, and even that small amount of speed will rewire your brain into thinking that it's OK for you and that you don't have a problem with it because you're just having some fun, right? Wrong. Eventually I was using MDMA weekly, and buying pills I knew were just meth to go with them... it led to me not being able to roll for like 6-8 months and even now 12 months after that, I have barely recovered.


Fuck speed. And all it's stupid little friends.
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Thanks this is great info. Would you suggest caffeine over 4fa? Obviously caffeine is safer but which in your opinion would provide the most enjoyable stimulation in combination with mdma
 
yeah from what i hear caffeine with mdma is more stimulating than caffeine on its own so you should be fiiiine
 
rkline said:
This might be the wrong thread but since I started it today, I figured Id use it. Im hoping for an answer as soon as possible.

Would MXE taken tonight effect effect how hard I roll on MDMA in four days?

MXE tonight - Pure MDMA and possibly 4FA four days later

Is this likely to effect how hard I roll? Is there a cross tolerance? Should I just wait? Or is this ample time?

thanks
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The MXE a few days before shouldn't effect your roll at all.

The only time i've ever done MXE (200mg in a 6 hr session, was way too high for way too long), I ate some mdma/mda not even 24hrs later. That was the highest i've been on MDxx in a long ass time. It was my first 3+ month break in awhile as well. But none the less it was the first time i ever puked from a too intense come up.
 
lol true, thanks for the info. Though I have to admit, I am sort of curious about mixing 4 fa with mdma. I can imagine it being quite amazing though the comedown and after effects would probably be pretty terrible. Im still trying to decide between caffeine and low dose 4 fa. Caffeine will obvously work and be safer with a less shitty comedown/aftereffects but I imagine that 4fa combined with mdma would be pretty amazing
 
If you do decide to use 4-FA, keep it at a very, very low dose. Too much of any kind of speed on MDMA will give you horrible side effects

Also keep in mind those drugs are pretty similar in action, and will synergize with each other. So 100mgs of MDMA and 100mgs of 4-FA would be almost like taking 200mg of either one alone


I never use amphetamines with my rolls now though, they take away all the love... it leaves you with only a hedonistic type of high, that can be cool but it's not what I look for with MDMA. Caffeine won't take any of your love, and actually synergizes with MDMA... not like amphetamine doesn't too... but that's in a different way.


I won't tell you not to ever try Speed + MDMA, I just think you should reconsider from personal experience :)
 
Folley said:
If you do decide to use 4-FA, keep it at a very, very low dose. Too much of any kind of speed on MDMA will give you horrible side effects

Also keep in mind those drugs are pretty similar in action, and will synergize with each other. So 100mgs of MDMA and 100mgs of 4-FA would be almost like taking 200mg of either one alone


I never use amphetamines with my rolls now though, they take away all the love... it leaves you with only a hedonistic type of high, that can be cool but it's not what I look for with MDMA. Caffeine won't take any of your love, and actually synergizes with MDMA... not like amphetamine doesn't too... but that's in a different way.


I won't tell you not to ever try Speed + MDMA, I just think you should reconsider from personal experience :)
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Thanks for answering my questions :) I really appreciate it

Would it be worthwhile/enjoyable to take 4fa three or four hours after taking mdma to increase euphoria, stay energized, avoid crashing and keep partying? Or would 4fa post mdma most likely be a shitty experience?

Or, what If I take 4fa four or five hours before mdma, enjoy the high, and on the comedown take mdma? Or would 4fa deplete serotonin and make mdma less enjoyable?

Im going to an all day rave and ideally would like to roll or have heightened energy and euphoria for at least 8-12 hrs without having to continually redose mdma/mda

any other suggestions?
 
rkline said:
Would it be worthwhile/enjoyable to take 4fa three or four hours after taking mdma to increase euphoria, stay energized, avoid crashing and keep partying? Or would 4fa post mdma most likely be a shitty experience?
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4-FA does work on serotonin, and the first release of serotonin is always going to be the largest. If you take 4-FA before you roll, it's quite likely to lead to a mild experience.. You can't really roll for 8 hours without coming down at some point... so if you need to be up for the whole rave I would drop and hour or two into the event


If you keep redosing 4-FA after the original dose, it's going to get really tweaky on you too... I would aim for just one solid dose (say 150mg MDMA and 20mg 4-FA) and try not to redose at all... maybe one more cap with 50mgs of MDMA and 25mg of 4-FA or something, but anything more after that is going to be too much
 
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