Mephedrone addiction? v2

[Mailmonkey]

not legally available in UK.

some European countries banned mephedrone, but not all cathinones.

I've never tried M1 on its own, always with meph, is fucking great fucking combo ......but as I said, I get brain zaps after the combo, and wife feels very sketchy all next day.....so we stick with meph now.......

I've never tried it on its own as reports from people i trust seem to suggest its not the kind of buzz I look for, and I'd probably end up redosing, and redosing...which has notoriously harsh payback.

 

[effie]

Hey guys, just to say - was going to merge this with our existing thread here but it's nearly hit 1000 posts so going to make this the Mephedrone Addiction thread v2. As long as you are okay with that Michael? Keep using the thread as normal, just means it can become a repository of information for others as well

Beating addiction is hard, but have a read through the thread I linked you to - people there have kicked it, hopefully it will give you tips and hope. I would also recommend checking out The Dark Side forum for emotional support/advice for coping with addictions.

I would write more but crashing from weekend.. but tell him to please go to a doctor soon to get his symptoms checked out and consider addiction counselling.. he's lucky to have a friend like you.

Good luck

 

[Treacle]

Mephedrone Addiction vrs. II

** Monsta Note - Here's the old thread **

Also due to more research i think my mental illness from meph was caused by an inbalence in dopamine. Which what meph does, increases dopamine while mdma doesnt. Which is linked to schizophrenia. Just like i have been sayiung....

MDMA does increase dopamine levels, just not to the extent of meph.

Yes, I have had proper meph, when it was all over (and relatively new). I also had it in a pill - one of the first MDMA pills to make a comeback, which also contained meph. It was a green Rolex, lab tested and results posted on here. It ruined the pill, and I felt miserable as fuck the day after. So, the first time I had enough to get a buzz, but I needed 4mg of xanax to sleep after, even hours after it'd worn off. It made me feel like shit. The person I had it with was fine. I don't react well to cathinones, that's the problem, and that's why I bang on about meph being shite.

It seems to me that it's subjective. Some people get red knees, blue fingers, chest pains and anxiety, but others are totally fine. It must be the way a person is wired/their genetic make up. I just wonder why people even risk it, when there's so many really clever people telling them it's awful for you. This is a harm reduction site, and mephedrone can cause some people harm, so that's sort of my point.

Also, the 'high quality' meph was still giving people these side effects, so that's got nothing to do with it.

 

[Urbain]

I couldnt say I ever had any physical side effects from any Meph I had. I was using perhaps 3-4 grams 3 days a week, on a regular basis, for a sustained period.

What it did give me, in terms of physiological effects, lies, deceiving, and being deceived, paranoia, break up of relationships, and job losses, was enough for me!

Still, if I could find it, I wouldnt mind one more session of pre ban, for old times sake.

 

[megasyn]

Sorry to hear about yr friend,

I'm addicted to the stuff myself and suffering a bit for it - weight loss, friendships lost, fucked up lifestyle etc.

A few grams a day, six days out of seven.

 

[Treacle]

Sounds like my G addiction. Or, rather, ex-addiction. Not good.

 

[Xamkou]

I also had it in a pill - one of the first MDMA pills to make a comeback, which also contained meph. It was a green Rolex, lab tested and results posted on here. It ruined the pill, and I felt miserable as fuck the day after.

That's not surprising. Whenever I've mixed two stimulants that are both rather serotonin heavy, it has always given me the comedown from hell. Thankfully I've never mixed MDMA with Mephedrone, the comedown of which sounds exceedingly brutal. I know a lot of people who have mixed the two and regretted it massively afterwards.

 

[Safrolette]

LALAL-LALALALA-LAAAA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

I *doubt* its much more, probably less cardio-toxic than coke, or speed, both of which i used to take daily.

Meph use, twice a week, yeah, I'm sure its not great for my heart, but no stim is....my heart is very fit for my age, varies from 48-60bpm resting, I know a lot of far unhealthier fuckers need warning off it.

Someone had best tell me to stop drinking coffeee, smoking fags, and drinking every evening too

A multi-pronged approach above and beyond the call of duty, MM! But then again there are straight-living no-smoking teetotals who have health problems too.

 

[Allein]

lALAL-LALALALA-LAAAA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

I *doubt* its much more, probably less cardio-toxic than coke, or speed, both of which i used to take daily.

Meph use, twice a week, yeah, I'm sure its not great for my heart, but no stim is....my heart is very fit for my age, varies from 48-60bpm resting, I know a lot of far unhealthier fuckers need warning off it.

Someone had best tell me to stop drinking coffeee, smoking fags, and drinking every evening too

Stop drinking coffeee, smoking fags, and drinking every evening

The voices made me do it

 

[alabamawhirley]

Does anyone else have a completely disrupted sleep pattern when on it? Every time I buy some (even if I only get 1g to start) I stay awake for 3 days and just keep going back for more if I don't have enough. Over the last couple of months I've grown to doing this once or twice a week. I hate it I feel so bad but I can't make myself stop and sleep

 

[VAC]

Does anyone else have a completely disrupted sleep pattern when on it? Every time I buy some (even if I only get 1g to start) I stay awake for 3 days and just keep going back for more if I don't have enough. Over the last couple of months I've grown to doing this once or twice a week. I hate it I feel so bad but I can't make myself stop and sleep

I'm doing the exact same and it's getting pretty bad. Had about 3 nights sleep in the last 10 days?

 

[Allein]

I'm doing the exact same and it's getting pretty bad. Had about 3 nights sleep in the last 10 days?

Its a very fiendish substance IMO for me not quite as bad as coke as the crash isn't so quick to start or as harsh.

I haven't taken any since the ban but staying up for days on end until several grammes had been consumed then moving onto MDPV for further abuse became pretty standard and was definitely not to be recommended from health point of view, physical and mental.

If you find that you are consistently intending to do a small amount for a one nighter and consistently ending up on a 3+ day binge you need to leave it alone before it starts chewing you up.

Best Wishes

 

[Mailmonkey]

Another sensible meph night last night. About 2.5g between me and missis, plugged and sniffed, low doses by a lot of your standards, but quite a lot by ours.

the only thing that stops us dosing is the fact we have to sleep to be up and fit as responsible parents the next day.

Stopped dosing about 1 last night, valium and sleep by 4, son woke me up at 8, I not feeling too bad.

I can see how easy it would be to binge and binge away if there's no reason for you not to.

If you find that you are consistently intending to do a small amount for a one nighter and consistently ending up on a 3+ day binge you need to leave it alone before it starts chewing you up.

totally agree with atm

 

[Allein]

To my shame I used the same logic to justify my binges, I'd think well I've gone to far to have any chance of sleep, bearing in mind I suffered from insomnia anyway so may as well just keep on truckin. I'd maybe go to bed for a couple of token hours and just lie there, sometime most times I'd have some bombs to hand to keep me ticking over.

For me it was better than coke, longer lasting, less sketchy on a long run, less harsh on my nose, and so , much cheaper although there was still never enough. The only downside was the truly terrible puking on the comedown, but once I discovered the joys of MDPV I would just follow on with that and got no nausea. Twisted psychosis yes but at least I didn't throw up

 

[knock]

Another sensible meph night last night. About 2.5g between me and missis, plugged and sniffed, low doses by a lot of your standards, but quite a lot by ours.

I don't know how you can do it! A few hundred milligrams is all I've ever managed. How quickly do you get through that quantity?

What do you get up to? One of the things that annoyed me about meph when I was taking it was the way three hours would suddenly vanish and I had no idea what happened. This would be after a couple of lines. I'd have been round the party talking to everyone but have no recollection of any of it. Do you and Mrs MM just talk shit to each other for hours?

 

[rockstar 69]

Its a very fiendish substance IMO for me not quite as bad as coke as the crash isn't so quick to start or as harsh.

I haven't taken any since the ban but staying up for days on end until several grammes had been consumed then moving onto MDPV for further abuse became pretty standard and was definitely not to be recommended from health point of view, physical and mental.

If you find that you are consistently intending to do a small amount for a one nighter and consistently ending up on a 3+ day binge you need to leave it alone before it starts chewing you up.

Best Wishes

Agree with everything you've said bar that very first bit. I'd honestly rather a crack comedown to some of the meph comedowns I've had. After a prolonged session on the stuff it can fry my head to the point I don't want to see day light for at least 48hours, because that's where the 'normal people' are. Nothing worse than taking heaps of it for days in nice secure locked surroundings only to have to leave on sunday night head in tatters.

My mate was telling me the other night how it once sent him into, what he described as 'banter overload', he shaved both his own eyebrows and put 2 stripes in the side of his own head lol. He said it was great at the time, too funny, then the meph started to wear off at bit and as the comedown hit he went paranoid about being paranoid haha! Stuff really does fuck with your mental health, way worse than coke on the health for me.

It still seems to be around locally at £25's a gram for really good stuff, but people are less keen to do it so often as they used to.

 

[Allein]

^^^
I'm not going to start quoting numbers but MM and his good lady were definitely being quite restrained, 1/4 g lines get standard after a bit. Meph effectiveness on the redose even 3 days in is better than almost any other drug I have taken, yes its a grimy smelly fairly toxic stim but at the end of the day the effects are way better than any other RC stim and many existing illicit ones, in the form we get serve them up in the UK.

 

[rockstar 69]

Yeah definately tollerance goes up after the first day aswell by day 3 your either fiending like fuck cos there's not enough left, doing wee lines constantly. Or your doing massive lines, or shots of it in juice was the other one, with a line waiting for straight after lol.

Agree it is by far the best RC they've came out with as for the high is concerned. Hopefully something with the same euphoria yet a bit less toxic and fiendish will come about.

 

[Mailmonkey]

I don't know how you can do it! A few hundred milligrams is all I've ever managed. How quickly do you get through that quantity?

we dose between about 7pm and 1am...as atm said, we are quite restrained compared with doses some people do, make no mistake, we are fucking bollocksed, but we always know when it's time to stop dosing...as I always say, if we were childless, things would prob be a bit different....

What do you get up to?.......

are you taking the piss?

 

[VAC]

are you taking the piss?

A mate's mate tried some today and it was fucking hilarious. I warned him it was strong. "I haven't done meph since the ban" snffffff FUUUUUCKK THAT HITS FAST. I swear his pupils dilated 4D.


Yeh I'm still awake now, doing stupid shit like 500mg+ lines. Going to the cinema with a lass I'm seeing tonight... Going to be interesting. I hope powernaps aren't a myth.