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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 2)

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I can sleep 9-12 hours post dosing without a benzo just fine.

As for the doses, it has been repeated ad nauseum here how variable it is from individual to individual. 2-4mg is very intense for me. Occasionally I wonder though if the intensity of the physical effects cause me to overestimate the extent of the true psychedelia at my doses. I do know I will never dose 4mg again, I felt like my muscles were cramped beyond belief and my hands were frozen.
 
^Ugh, some guys have all the luck. I can't sleep until at least 18 hours in, if not more.
 
I can't sleep until usually t + 18 hours minimum without benzos, but I don't mind, it is well worth the beauty of a DOC trip.
 
Jakeperson said:
Are you a good sleeper normally? It takes me days to sleep afterwards but that happens occasionally to me anyways.
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I love sleep more than most things and if time allows, I will sleep for 9-10 hours a night. So I don't really enjoy DOC-induced insomnia, especially when I have no friends around to share my misery. I lie in bed for hours, incredibly uncomfortable and unable to sleep. I really need to get some benzos.

And Iamme90 is right, it is worth it.
 
IamMe90 said:
I can't sleep until usually t + 18 hours minimum without benzos, but I don't mind, it is well worth the beauty of a DOC trip.
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Well to be fair I'm sure if I took ~10mg I would not sleep for two days.

I have a pretty good amphetamine tolerance, if I don't take a stim I'm borderline comatose.
 
I have a few experiences with the old DOC and love it to bits. One can definitely tell it's related to the 2C compounds but this is of course much longer lasting and a bit 'reserved' in that I don't feel as stimulated as 2CI, 2CE, 2CT7, etc.

Well, having said that, I have the day off today and ~2.5mg of the DOC is down the hatch.

Let the countdown begin :)
 
^Waiting those ~2 hours to start tripping is the worst. Or maybe I'm just really impatient. Anways, enjoy!
 
so i did one hit of avatar lsd on friday and 4mg of doc early saturday.

Tolerance was def a factor since i didnt get much visuals from the doc, but i still had an awesome feeling and some mental activity.

I tried to spice it up by eating some more sd on the doc and that gave it abit more visuals, then i finished the night of with some changa and n20 which was awesome.

Anyway the doc was felt for about 30hours but i could easily sleep after about 12hours, very nice compound indeed.
 
Man, DOC is amazingly strong. I hadn't done it in years and did some and 1 mg produced a very strong trip, comparable to 3.5 grams of mushrooms (but more enjoyable). Interesting that the dosage range seems to vary so much, the same is true with 4-aco-dmt- 15 mg makes me trip pretty hard, like 3 grams of good shrooms, but I've known people who got almost no effects off 20 mg. When I used to take DOC I'd take 2 or 3 mg, but I think lower doses is where it's at, I don't see myself taking more than 2 mg in the future, if I want to get so far out I don't know who or where I am I'll do DMT, mescaline or lsd. Low dose DOC is perfect imo.

I'm going to try half a mg soon just to see what it's like, I imagine it being a very euphoric, trippy amphetamine type thing. I also want to try doing maybe 1 mg of DOC and combining it with 10 or 15 of 4-aco, any experience with that combo here? I imagine the euphoria would be through the roof.
 
After a miniscule allergy test, my first Doc trip was at 1.25mg. This produced a long but subtle, shroom (or as above substituted trypt) type trip, visual enough to enjoy forest wanderings but easy going enough to handle reality. This is what I'd consider an entry level dose, good for starting up. I;ve got it up to 1.85 & plan to break to the 2mg mark next time I come across this amazing stuff!

I've had the 1.25 at a rock fest, on the Sat, & on the Sunday 1mg. I'm sure there was some left-over going, but 1mg definitely had an effect!
 
Axed said:
^Waiting those ~2 hours to start tripping is the worst. Or maybe I'm just really impatient. Anways, enjoy!
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It went well. I was up from Friday 7am to Saturday night 12am. Got pretty wired at the end from lack of sleep but the Grey Goose helped. Lotta fun but one hell of a commitment!
 
I dipped my toes in the shallow end of the DOC pond with a ½ mg trail.
I must say I was very impressed. Ingested 1 ml of my ½ mg/ml vodka solution at 4 pm.
Come up lasted from about +1 h to +2,5 h. To me it felt similar to coming up on mushrooms. A bit uneasy and some tension in my neck. When the slightly uncomfortable feelings lifted as I reached the plateau, I felt like I was on a lowish dose of methylone. Felt very good and was very talkative.
I went to sleep at about 2 am with the aid of a few etizolams, but I had also been drinking beers throughout the night.
There where no visuals except that things may have seemed a little brighter than usual.

I can't wait to try a proper dose, but I will definitely be doing low doses again too. At ½ mg it felt more like a empathogenic stim than a psychedelic.
 
Anyone else need about 5mgs to get to a mild (but neat) +2? If there is, how much would they take to get to a not-too-insane +3?
 
GolemGolem said:
Anyone else need about 5mgs to get to a mild (but neat) +2? If there is, how much would they take to get to a not-too-insane +3?
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I can't give you any advise since I have only tried it at ½ mg, but please make sure you do a low dose test if you get a new batch, just in case its purity related.
 
DOC is the funniest chemical i've ever come across, like 10 hours crying of laughter funny. It just happens to make me, my gf and other friends have a basically automatic good time. My doses have been 3 and 3.6mg, and while i have a natural high tolerance for psycs this produced a very tolerable +3 with hardly any body load, except a little on the come up. My gf did have a very rough come up the second time though, but luckily you're looking at about 12 hours of good times after.
DOC feels like theres so much more headroom, so i will keep increasing my dosage each time but it's just perfect for festivals and long weekends.
 
GolemGolem said:
Anyone else need about 5mgs to get to a mild (but neat) +2? If there is, how much would they take to get to a not-too-insane +3?
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Yes, this is exactly the case with me. I recommend 7mg, you will be surprised at the exponential increase in intensity visually, but the trip is definitely "manageable.'
 
ThanksLois said:
DOC is the funniest chemical i've ever come across, like 10 hours crying of laughter funny. It just happens to make me, my gf and other friends have a basically automatic good time.
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I always laugh my arse off on shrooms & I'm finding the best description for Doc is, a long, LONG shroom trip, certainly in the low dose area. I havent pushed the boat out further than my initial 1.85mg but at that level everythings pretty much there (movement in stationary objects, greater clarity to colour, general hillarity etc) but in a controllable way.
 
Twigs said:
I can't give you any advise since I have only tried it at ½ mg, but please make sure you do a low dose test if you get a new batch, just in case its purity related.
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Always with any drug. The DOC is good quality, I'm just a hard head with phens in general, my usual 2c-e dose is 30mgs, and it leaves me quite able to function around sober folks, and no nausea, it's a mixed blessing.
IamMe90 said:
Yes, this is exactly the case with me. I recommend 7mg, you will be surprised at the exponential increase in intensity visually, but the trip is definitely "manageable.'
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Thanks, I'll give that a go on my next days off. :3
 
bluedolphin said:
DOC will have you feeling stimulated. But not to the extent that you took some amphetamine.
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In my experience this could not be further from the truth. Now i love my stimulants. I've taken 200mg of vyvanse in one mouthful before and had an absolutely wonderful time. 3mg of doc was the most sped up i have ever been in my entire life. I was so sped up i could not stand or move about comfortably. and it wasn't just me, everyone i tripped with had the same thing happening to them. And the jaw clench/pain was exponentially worse than it has been on any kind of amphetamine. DOC is the worst drug i have ever taken. Perhaps my batch wasn't really doc but it came from a reliable vendor whose other products were 100% legit.
 
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