RCs Big n Dandy 4-FA (4-fluoroamphetamine) thread v.1.0

[The King of Beans]

i just got my 4FA and 4MEC from my very reliable uk vendor. one thing i do find weird, the first time i ordered 4MEC from this vendor, it was from their chinese warehouse, and was crystal chunks like cylinder quartz chunks everyone describes, and it was pretty good. now whats strange (to me) is i placed the same order 3 weeks later from the 1st and this time it came from their UK warehouse and it was pure white powder this time. no chunks or crystal shards it was really fine powder. and after setting the two side by side(since i had a little left over from my last order) i noticed the older batch with crystals, had a very very light hue to it. almost like that light honeycomb color molly shards have. i know for a fact its a reliable vendor they have the best reviews on sos ranked 9 of 10 with like 20 pages of good reviews. im just wondering if anyone knowledgable can shed some light on this. i actually like the newer (whiter) stuff better. i get the same effects as the last stuff, but it seems alot more noticable to me.

And the MAIN QUESTION i have on 4FA is, what would you guys recommend a person with no stimulant tolerance and a first time to try orally? after all the reading about how it burns and tastes horrid, im only using oral as a ROA. ive read that anywhere from 75-150 mg is a good oral dose. so im planning on trying 75 mg in a capsule, after i do a small allergy test with it. can anyone give me a recommend a good dose that isnt threshold but also not over the top. i just want to get a good feel for it and see what its all about, and i dont know about just starting off with 100mg. I will absolutely tho make a good trip report on my 4FA experience. thanks alot fot the input/advice on doing 4FA orally. PeacE !

(ohh! and if i had to describe the consitency of my 4FA it appears to be really "flour(y)' it looks more like baking flour like for a cake, than it does a powder)

4-FA is mild with pretty much no bad side effects. I started with 250 mg's about for my first time (I eyeballed it though so could of been more or less) The more you do the more intense the tingles will be. You are going to love this drug! It's the cloest thing to MDMA out there right now. Even more so than Methylone.(Which was banned)

PS- I think I know which site you order from. I also order there. They are the best site online. Too bad the uptight mods here wont let us post about which sites are good and which aren't. But right now they are out of stock of 4-fa! I was so bummed to find this out. So I ordered some 4-MEC which I hear isnt even close to 4-fa. But I hope if I drink beer and listen to music with it, it will be ok. Oh and DONT snort the 4-fa, that's just stupid.

Anyone else tried 4-mec with beer?

 

[Tryptamino]

What dose would anybody recommend to a first time user who normally has the amphetamine tolerance of the devil, but has been off stims for around a month, (so still a good bit of tolerance) besides one weak mdma experience? also, would I be in for more of a straight speed type experience, or a full out, hugging everyone, crazy mdma type thing? I wanna be able to act relatively normal on it, like amphetamine or meth.

 

[The King of Beans]

It's more like MDMA to me than speed. But it starts out that way. After about 4 hours it turns into more stimulation. You'd be fine starting with 250 mg's or even 300 if you have a tolerence. I am a small person with little tolerence and I know i could handle 500 mg's of this stuff. But no need for that much. It's active at as little as 100 mg's or less. So start with 250 and go from there. Doesnt take long at all to kick in. But make sure NOT to snort it. It wont do as much that way and it burns badly. Very very very badly. lol

Oh and you can act completely normal on this stuff. No one will even know you're on anything. You'll be feeling awesome, but you'll look totally sober. You wont want to hug anyone. Its not lovey dovey, just an awesome mood lift and euphoria. Music sounds awesome too and you get tingles. It's not the same as MDMA, but you'll love it.

 

[tricomb]

No sourcing, please review the BLUA and OD guidelines.

 

[XTC4Life]

Wow, 250 mg for starts will def. put you in superman town, you feel a strong body high with super ego and you'll want to crush up on hot girls all the time. For me 200mg would be my max to drop because I feel that gives all the benefits and not to much negs.

 

[Axed]

Alright, so reading through this thread has given me a lot of mixed reviews about 4-FA.

How would this chem suit a festival setting? I'm the kind of person that likes to get my dance on but also chill out and cuddlepuddle.
What would be a recommended starting dose for someone with no amphetamine tolerance?
And has there been any consensus about duration?

 

[Tryptamino]

From what I've read, a good starting dose is somewhere between 75-125 mgs if you don't have tolerance though, I'd try 75 and titrate your dose in 25mg increments. I havent tried it, but i have taken a lot of MDMA and other amphetamines, so I can pretty confidently tell you that it wouold be a good festival drug. As far as the duration goes, I'm actually curious myself as to what that may be.

 

[The King of Beans]

I didnt have a tolerence at all and on my first time i started with 250 mgs which i eyeballed. I think I actually took even more than that. 4-fa is still good in low doses though too.

As for the mod that said no sourcing..I never put a source to anything. What are you talking about? I know already that rule. But can I also ask why you guys have this rule?

XTC4life, clear out your PM folder if you can I wanted to send you a message.

 

[The King of Beans]

Alright, so reading through this thread has given me a lot of mixed reviews about 4-FA.

How would this chem suit a festival setting? I'm the kind of person that likes to get my dance on but also chill out and cuddlepuddle.
What would be a recommended starting dose for someone with no amphetamine tolerance?
And has there been any consensus about duration?

Axed, if you like to dance, definitely do not get the 6-apb. It is a lazy drug, not for dancing. 4-FA is like a chilled roll but at least you can go out to a club on it. 6-apb is an around the house drug if you ask me. And make sure you got a bathroom near by at all times, if you do apb, its some nasty stuff!

 

[BruceLeeSwag]

4-FA is mild with pretty much no bad side effects. I started with 250 mg's about for my first time (I eyeballed it though so could of been more or less) The more you do the more intense the tingles will be. You are going to love this drug! It's the cloest thing to MDMA out there right now. Even more so than Methylone.(Which was banned)

PS- I think I know which site you order from. I also order there. They are the best site online. Too bad the uptight mods here wont let us post about which sites are good and which aren't. But right now they are out of stock of 4-fa! I was so bummed to find this out. So I ordered some 4-MEC which I hear isnt even close to 4-fa. But I hope if I drink beer and listen to music with it, it will be ok. Oh and DONT snort the 4-fa, that's just stupid.

Anyone else tried 4-mec with beer?

IMO methylone was much more rollish, but i was starting off with 250mg oral then railing 50mg every 15 mins.

 

[The King of Beans]

Tried M1 before when it was being sold under the Ra*ing Dr*gon B*th S*lts
(Pretty much I have to censor this cuz this site is very strict on everything!)
and it was ok, but I liked MDPV salts more, as it lasted longer and was stronger.

 

[BruceLeeSwag]

Tried M1 before when it was being sold under the Ra*ing Dr*gon B*th S*lts
(Pretty much I have to censor this cuz this site is very strict on everything!)
and it was ok, but I liked MDPV salts more, as it lasted longer and was stronger.

tbh unless you tried pure powder from reputable pure chemical vendor then you shouldnt base your opinions off that.

 

[BananasAndOranges]

I didnt have a tolerence at all and on my first time i started with 250 mgs which i eyeballed. I think I actually took even more than that. 4-fa is still good in low doses though too.

As for the mod that said no sourcing..I never put a source to anything. What are you talking about? I know already that rule. But can I also ask why you guys have this rule?

XTC4life, clear out your PM folder if you can I wanted to send you a message.

dude No. Thats seriously wayyy to much if he has no tolerance. When I had a tolerance i did 120-140 thats perfect. Dont recommend a stupid high dose like that. You must have been ON THE COUCH if you took That much. You wont cuddle puddle on this shit. Maybe for 1 hours but seriously 150 would probably be Too intense for a first timer. This is a harm reduction site homie.

 

[BananasAndOranges]

tbh unless you tried pure powder from reputable pure chemical vendor then you shouldnt base your opinions off that.

sorry but hes right bean man. I have done a Shit ton of Methylone and it smears 4-FA completely in the dirt in terms of feeling floored. Methylone was really nice. If you bought it under a bath salt your methylone was probably cut up and dirty or NOT Methylone. 250mgs of Real Pure Methylone will have your ass in a cloud eyes shut rolling around for awhile. 4-FA gives you energy like a cocaine rush with its empathy but its nothing more than ampy feelings after that 3 hour mark. MDPV I never did so I cant comment but I can say your wrong about Methylone. 250mgs first time on Methylone or 4-FA and you may need a bed or a couch especially with Methylone. I remember before it got banned all I ever got was cut up dirt. Honestly I remember methylone being almost Identical to good ecstacy except the come up was rather fast and smacky and a lot shorter.

 

[pharmakos]

i tend to be a hard head for things, and i haven't taken more than 150mg of 4-FA yet

 

[BruceLeeSwag]

sorry but hes right bean man. I have done a Shit ton of Methylone and it smears 4-FA completely in the dirt in terms of feeling floored. Methylone was really nice. If you bought it under a bath salt your methylone was probably cut up and dirty or NOT Methylone. 250mgs of Real Pure Methylone will have your ass in a cloud eyes shut rolling around for awhile. 4-FA gives you energy like a cocaine rush with its empathy but its nothing more than ampy feelings after that 3 hour mark. MDPV I never did so I cant comment but I can say your wrong about Methylone. 250mgs first time on Methylone or 4-FA and you may need a bed or a couch especially with Methylone. I remember before it got banned all I ever got was cut up dirt. Honestly I remember methylone being almost Identical to good ecstacy except the come up was rather fast and smacky and a lot shorter.

big plus 4-fa vs methylone though is the duration, 2 hours after ingesting methylone you're fiending like a crackhead for your next dose because you go from normal to rolling thru heaven and back to normal in 2 hours ^_^

 

[Aphex747]

i just took 140mg of 4fa capsuled 6 minutes ago. got some 4MEC lines ready to go. hurray for meorial weekend!

 

[BananasAndOranges]

big plus 4-fa vs methylone though is the duration, 2 hours after ingesting methylone you're fiending like a crackhead for your next dose because you go from normal to rolling thru heaven and back to normal in 2 hours ^_^

Man I think Real Methylone lasts longer than 4-FA atleast the fun parts. I always got zooted doing a bomb for atleast 3 hours two hours though of that daaaammmnnn feeling. 4-FA lasts longer maybe but its nothing like a ROLL. Its exactly like if we are comparing drugs, a cocaine comeup and then a rush. But they both are fiendy lol 4-FA doesnt last but 5 hours Max.

 

[Aphex747]

at the 4 hour mark of 140 mg oral capsule. the only real noticable comedown effect at this point is everything has that gross taste. kind of like how when a stimulant makes you smoke 100 ciggarettes and they start to taste bad..anyways a good clean experience. i added 4mec at the 2 hour mark just to kickstart it i guess. so far really good and smooth. no complaints. however it is slightly "moreish" like im not at all wanting to redose on the 4fa, but im going through 4mec like one would smoke lots of cannabis on a mushroom or acid trip. its just easy to keep doing, but its not the hardest thing not to do at the same time. they just go really well together and im figuring ill proll go through .25 gram of 4mec before the experience ends. but with 4mec i never ever do more than .10 of qram in a day of using it. usually 3 good lines and i dont think about anymore. but i could actually see myself going through alot of this on 4FA

 

[Aphex747]

well i had a really good time today, i did alot more 4mec than i planned, but oh well, it was enjoyable. how does redosing with 4fa work? if you take a good dose (125-150 mg) oral, will taking the same amount a few hours later, actually get you to the peak again, or is it a lost cause? just wondering for future times.

oh and i ended up going through .40 of 4mec. i redosed 8 times basically every half our from 215 - 915pm. no crash, i have drank about 18 oz of beer just to smooth the transition. will make sure to drink more water after these 2 beers